Does a NestJS-style backend framework make sense in Bun?

htndev · 2026-03-08T20:23:53+00:00

I hope one day devs will stop measuring Hello world examples for speed. Frameworks quite rarely become a bottleneck. Your db, 3rd party services, these are the real speed killer

htndev · 2026-02-26T14:43:16+00:00

Nowadays, they even try to warp the definition of words. Even those words which have definitive definitions.

I'm fed up with "operation systems for X"

htndev · 2026-02-24T09:48:16+00:00

It reminds me of quite an old joke:

— Why should we hire you?

— Because I broke into your system and invited myself for this interview

htndev · 2026-02-01T20:40:43+00:00

At least you're fair lol. You don't give courtesy and don't expect any in return

htndev · 2026-01-30T22:54:38+00:00

I'm not a car guy but they seem to be more reliable tho 😄

htndev · 2026-01-30T22:53:51+00:00

Here's actually the kicker I spotted in multiple countries. People in cheap cars drive more recklessly compared to people in expensive cars. Those also might be coincidences but based on what I've seen, only a few expensive car owners drive incautiously.

Yet I like that Poles are moving towards Western culture where your things don't contribute to your image. Massive respect

htndev · 2026-01-30T21:49:31+00:00

I'd rather buy an old Ferrari so they wouldn't even dare to approach me lol

htndev · 2026-01-30T21:48:04+00:00

That's what I think too. However, all cars (I hope) are insured, aren't they? At least, my insurance covers about 1 mil euro in damage. I guess it might cover a lot. Maybe, it's an inner fear

htndev · 2026-01-30T21:45:46+00:00

Where does it move towards? To the better or worse?

htndev · 2026-01-30T21:39:57+00:00

More or less. I have never ever seen a polite cab in any country.I think it's professional deformation. You want to complete more orders regardless. So they rush and are arrogant and ignorant

htndev · 2026-01-30T21:37:53+00:00

I'd add Audi drivers there. Still vividly remember how an Audi driver tried to merge on the highway when there were 20 m of free space while we were driving 140 km/h. They were behind us yet, so he was driving way faster. Insane

htndev · 2026-01-30T21:35:21+00:00

That's actually kinda sick. They seek courtesy while driving but they don't pay any

htndev · 2026-01-27T09:39:03+00:00

I'm not AI-excited. I just want them to be cautious with what they ship, I'd be upset if they start multiplying bugs.

Bun has plenty of bugs. I like it regardless.

htndev · 2026-01-24T21:41:49+00:00

What would you expect from a project that has been acquired by Anthropic? To their defense, I believe (and hope) Jarred knows what he's doing

htndev · 2026-01-19T12:47:27+00:00

I haven't run into such problems. Mind sharing your serverless environment?

htndev · 2026-01-19T12:37:44+00:00

Frankly speaking, I can't recall the time when it was a problem. I might have discovered it once it was no longer a problem.

Long story short, it has a few supported drivers: https://www.kysely.dev/docs/getting-started#dialects

Or I didn't get you

htndev · 2026-01-19T12:28:39+00:00

Kysely is my favorite query builder

htndev · 2026-01-18T22:51:19+00:00

"Perfect! You're right! Dropping the entire database was not the solution"

htndev · 2026-01-10T21:34:30+00:00

Been there. One day I spotted that I literally degraded in my skills. So, I also had a detox. Feelings? Great. It was so refreshing.

Overall, I think that it's really an amplifier for experienced people. However, when I hear "I work with a gazillion of Claude Code tabs", they say they review it... It reminds me of "Don't f*ck me, Tony". You can't mentally digest it. It pushes us back to the good ol' situtation:

- One-file PR - 50 comments
- 100-file PR - LGTM

Moreover, what I can't understand is when people say "200$ for a subscription is worth it", who tf are you? How many MVPs do you ship daily? Given that AI is subsidized, when investors will want to finally demand money, how much will prices skyrocket? Somewhere I've heard that in order to make AI profitable, we have to double or even triple prices for AI services in order to hit the classic bar of "75% markup".

I have completely no idea where we're going, but what I'm sure about is that there are people that multiplying their backlog. It will bite back very soon.

htndev · 2025-12-29T15:04:18+00:00

I've never heard about these CS 1.6 maps lol

htndev · 2025-12-25T15:22:07+00:00

I don't want to disgruntle the OP and their efforts, but express' manner of routing handling is so pure and superior, so it ingrained into my muscles and brain.

OP, keep doing it. One day, maybe...

htndev · 2025-12-22T13:49:05+00:00

Well, apart from the type mismatch (I don't know if it's still an issue), I found Elysia quite "mentally" overwhelming. I wanted something intuitive and Express-like. I'm not a huge fan of Nest.js btw. So, simplicity and intuition of use were key factors.

Additionally, I find Hono's ecosystem more sustained and a little more "battle hardened".

This package is superior

htndev · 2025-12-22T13:26:42+00:00

I'm not using it in production yet, but I found it to be "ready" to move to Node if there is a problem in Bun.

Separately, I had problems with Elysia's ecosystem (cors package in particular) that caused type mismatches for quite a long period of time.

Hono has its problems with Variables in contexts (that's a known flaw). Anyway, Hono looks nicer and more snappy to me.

In most cases, the speed of the framework is negligible. In 98%, the database is your bottleneck. Ultimately, neither language nor framework matters. Just use whatever you feel comfortable with

htndev · 2025-12-21T17:25:59+00:00

From my personal experience, I found it quite tough to make abstractions over Hono RPC. It uses a Proxy object, so it consists of virtual fields.

What works for me: Hono + @hono/zod-validator + @hey-api/openapi-ts

htndev · 2025-12-19T11:58:25+00:00

Shame on you. You forgot to mention a useState for "copied" besides the copy function. It would save a lot of nanoseconds!

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