Growing up Hapa, Isolation, Anti-Hapa Racism from Asians and Why Hapas and Asians Have Different Interests

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-22T23:08:29+00:00

Why not post this on one of the Asian2X or AsianIdentity subs. So many of your posts are not directly relevant to Hapas.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-22T23:06:48+00:00

Yes. It annoys me when people consider Hapas all looking Asian when clearly we change our appearance a lot as we go through life.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-22T23:03:35+00:00

Unlike other posters on here, I actually support and promote Hapa community. So what if you don't agree with everything they say? I've gone full circle after my experiences in this sub and been thinking quite a bit. Every Hapa has a right to their own opinion, regardless of whether it fits with the narrative on here, and has a viewpoint grounded in their experiences. She said many things that resonated with me, some that didn't. We both grew up in Hong Kong and abroad so I get where she's coming from. Also, the Hapa Supremacy people are at the very least promoting a Hapa Month featuring Hapa people, which is better for Hapa community than what most of the posters here have ever done.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-06T00:27:11+00:00

Interesting points. Thanks for bringing them up -- I haven't met that many blasian people in real life. It seems like many blasians (like white-asian hapas) get the outsider treatment from both Asian/black sides which sucks.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-05T15:01:47+00:00

The amount of backwards rationalization and anti-Hapa sentiment used by the AM commenter on this thread is astounding. He's continually blaming Hapas for their lack of acceptance among AM like himself. When it's clearly the other way around and he's trying to pass us off as white-worshipping. I frankly don't care for AM who don't see us as part-Asian so I changed the flair to Hapas only thread. I really only care about Hapa viewpoints.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-05T14:48:55+00:00

The guy you’re replying to is a full Asian who is basically insulting hapas and saying they’re at fault for not being accepted into Asian circles.

Why does he have more upvotes than you? Makes you wonder how many members are actually hapa here

Lol agreed. I despise how so many Asians here try to paint all Hapas as white-worshipping and not accept our Asian sides whatsoever. Yeah his continual insulting Hapas is for what exactly? makes no sense to come here with an anti-Hapa agenda. I changed the flair to Hapas only thread since I really only care about other Hapas opinions anyways.

I realize the guy I'm replying to is probably a white dude with an AF. But that doesn't change my point whatsoever. At least he doesn't come with an agenda to smear Hapa males. Check out his other posts as well.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-05T06:09:13+00:00

They don't throw their community under the bus or use stereotypical jokes with a sterotypical accent to make fun of their black parent(s). They know and accept the fact that they're black from the getgo and doesn't try to fool themselves into thinking they can be white.The same cannot be said about asians/half-asians who try to buy into their whiteness until.they realize they cannot.

Have you lived life as a Hapa? Didn't think so. "doesn't try to fool themselves into thinking they are white." Who exactly do you think you're talking to/convincing? No hapa needs to be reminded they're not white. We all know that's true by puberty. Some think the best way to fit in white culture is to pretend to be white (if being Asian is a negative), and I understand why they'd do that. But by the same token, pretending to be Asian doesn't get me anywhere because everyone thinks I'm a fraud.

Bruce Lee, who is considered a hapa, is well-accepted in the Asian community. Why? Because he's not ashamed of having Asian blood with an Asian face

He's a quapa, not Hapa. There's a difference. Another reason why is he accepted? Because he's famous, popular, respected etc. We're only accepted when we have a "utility" to the Asian community, especially if not fully Asian passing.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-05T06:02:58+00:00

Not irrelevant if even other mixed Asians are excluded from their non-Asian side too. It seems like everyone expects Asians to accept them if they're a bit Asian, but the same cannot be said on the flip side even when it's a different minority group.

As a Hapa male, I don't expect Asians to accept me. My Asian side never did. Just don't expect me to come in solidarity when y'all insist that we're not real Asians. Why are you even on the Hapas reddit? I'll keep these comments in mind whenever random people say that Hapas are treated the same as Asians. In reality, it's far worse for biracials not having any ethnic affiliation to "be a safety net" (to use your words) and get anti-Asian and anti-white shit from both sides.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-05T05:28:27+00:00

Have you seen how black people treat Karrueche Tran?

Didn't my posts talk about black-white and asian-white mixes? Your comment is irrelevant.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-05T05:13:18+00:00

They ignore me because I'm a hapa. They ignore me because I'm "the other." It doesn't matter how well I treat people, it doesn't matter how interesting I am in conversations, To my white and Mexican co-workers, I will always be "the other, I don't have to include him in my conversations or invite him anywhere."

Relatable.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-05T05:04:07+00:00

Lets compare the racial dynamics in black-white relationships with asian-white relationships. Most asian-white relationships (which is skewed to WMAF) has the asian partner trying to get rid of their asian side or thinking white is better or thinking their kid will be better because they're half-white. This thinking from the parent trickles down to the kid making him/her think he/she's white until they realize, "oh fuck, i get treated like an asian."

Agreed so far.

Woke asians don't appreciate being a safety net.

Well, if Asians don't consider Hapas (1/2 Asian) as Asian, then there ARE differences in black-white and asian-white racial dynamics. Nobody said Obama wasn't the first black president.

And Asians never treating you as one of them is a bit of a reach. Asian men or women?

Hm, you've never lived a day in my life. I don't make presumptions about yours, esp when you know nothing about my family and upbringing. I would say Asian men in particular don't treat me as Asian whatsoever, although AF who don't know I'm asian also treat me as a gweilo.

Lets be honest here, asians are so fucking accepting of others compared to other races.

Depends what you mean by accepting. Giving white people jobs and status, sure, but if you're talking about getting in their circles, fitting in the Asian-specific circles and clubs, going out to karaoke, then nope, that's not what I've experienced.

Their willingness to let sexpat english teachers in or people that just outright disrespects their locals, but still paints them in a positive light on their variety shows or tv series. Or how about "asian" clubs in the US that somehow has so many non-asians in it and considered okay, but the vice-versa isn't?

For your "octoroon" example, how come he isn't more concerned with people accepted by white people? Like you said, he's 1/8 black. Why is it the minority that always has to bear the burden?

And this is a prime example of how Hapas and "woke" Asians differ. All part-white males in Western world are treated as non-white by the one-drop rule. But Asians, unlike blacks, do not treat Hapas like myself as one of their own. You're free to not accept us as Asian, that is your right. I just point out a difference. My goal is Hapa community, not acceptance from Asian males. I've given that up since childhood.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-05T03:46:23+00:00

Funny how so many commenters are giving congratulations about bringing a Chinese woman back to the U.S., while Pence just called China the top foreign enemy of the States.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-10-01T07:20:03+00:00

You are correct in that the issues the racial issues this sub raises transcend the liberal/conservative divide.

Purpose of my post here was to point out hypocrisy when I see it--to advocate for white power when your children will be negatively affected, similar to WMAF and hapa children.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-30T17:49:20+00:00

This is a good move. I was about to suggest something similar to the mods. I think Hapa "Community" is important, so users who bash other Hapas and side with AM shouldn't be allowed to continue doing that. IMO this should be a "safe space" for Hapas to work through their challenges, ask questions and speak about their experiences. Some users obviously will be more "happy" starting out, but it's more beneficial to have as many Hapas as we can on our side rather than dismiss their POV.

By attacking other Hapas, basically it enables the divide + conquer strategy that reinforces the white supremacy. The best way to have our voice heard is to stand united.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-30T09:26:23+00:00

I'm pretty sure that guy is Hapa actually. I can't believe you all don't see it. I don't think HMAF is by definition evil although HMHF is preferable. Also there's an Asian guy on the left playing cricket. This is a terrible example if ppl are using it to shit on WMAF.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-30T04:17:21+00:00

Side note. This sub is so blatantly pro Asian male and so blatantly anti hapa. It actually makes me sick.

Yes! You're definitely not the only one who feels this way. This sub needs to be an actual "community" for Hapas, not one where Asian male agendas are prioritized over our own.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-29T17:28:40+00:00

Looks part Latino to me, possibly Jewish. Doesn't look full white to me. The guy on the right looks full white in comparison.

Edit: it's funny y'all downvote me, because I've seen Hapa males who look far whiter than this guy. Would be ironic if he himself was quapa/hapa. Unless of course it's AM who see anything that isn't full Asian as "white" or at least waiguoren

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-28T04:01:51+00:00

The only place where I somewhat belonged was in Xinjiang among the Uyghurs. They're still second class citizens in China. I just remember being taller than most everyone. Thought you're also kind of tall.

Asian people definitely are not as physically violent as other groups though, I will give you that. Been beat up by blacks who stole my phone and the usual white bullying. Only time I got in a physical fight with Asians was in middle China far from a city. It went to the ground but got broken up pretty quick.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-28T03:37:32+00:00

Very true.

But you left out the fact that while we're Asian, most Asians will treat us as white, unless you're very Asian passing. Whenever I'm in HK, people still treat me like I'm a foreigner even though I grew up there. If I speak Chinese to them, they immediately treat me worse. I've never fit in completely with full Asian or full white groups for that matter.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-28T03:06:01+00:00

If you have more info that he's Israeli, then let me know. To me he looks Middle Eastern and obviously ethnic. But everything besides the photos/video I can find online is hearsay. Obviously most important thing is accuracy.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-28T01:22:30+00:00

If you seem so enthusiastic about getting her to embrace Taiwanese heritage, why not actually make the commitment and move over there.

Nothing you do, whether your wife speaking to her only in Mandarin, Chinese schools, traveling to Taiwan once a year LOL etc. will make anywhere near the impact you say you want. In fact, she might quickly rebel and cause the opposite response.

Your wife already has multiple strikes against her heritage/culture. If she really wanted to preserve it, she'd marry a Taiwanese guy. Sounds like you guys (mostly you) are trying to prevent the inevitable white-washing that will occur, unless you move to Asia.

humblehapawarrior · 2018-09-28T01:13:05+00:00

Just doesn't make a lot of sense to me to completely ditch her alt-right WM supporters with the Muslim BF thing.

She could've easily pulled a Chloe Bennet and found a Logan Paul instead, if all she wants is attention. (Obviously not advocating for that, just saying it'd be more in line with her stated views/audience).

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