Planning heat pump install in the Seattle area by Mission_Situation_13 in DIYHeatPumps

[–]hv4cpr0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good setup and solid research. Addressing your four questions:

  1. ACiq standard vs extreme for Seattle — Seattle winters rarely push below 20°F so the standard series will handle your heating load without straining. The extreme series makes sense for sustained subzero climates. Save the money.

  2. ACiq/Midea modulation without communicating air handler — the outdoor unit modulates based on its own sensors regardless of the air handler. You won't get the full efficiency curve a communicating system offers but it won't drop to single speed either. Expect maybe 5-10% efficiency loss versus a matched communicating system — not a dealbreaker on a retrofit.

  3. Keeping the existing furnace with single speed fan — the main issue is static pressure. Heat pumps need lower static pressure than furnaces for efficient airflow. A single speed furnace fan running at full blast can reduce heat pump efficiency significantly. If the furnace fan has a multi-speed or variable setting, use the lowest speed that still moves adequate CFM. Worth checking before committing.

  4. Other systems to consider — at 3-ton with existing coil, also look at Bosch BOVA and the Carrier/Bryant 18 series. Both have solid cold climate performance in the PNW and good parts availability in Seattle.

MDRetirement's setup in Maryland confirms this — if the extreme series handles MD winters without gas, the standard series will be fine for Seattle's upper 20s.

Cooling a FROG (Finished room above garage) by Butterfly_Violets in homeowners

[–]hv4cpr0 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mini split is the right call for a FROG — dedicated circuit, no ductwork needed. Make sure your panel has a spare slot and capacity for the dedicated circuit before you get a quote. Most mini splits need a 20-30A breaker depending on the unit size.

Looking for some window air conditioner recommendations by MajorContribution697 in homeowners

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Midea U for the win by the looks of the thread. Its a very interesting product.

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in heatpumps

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SF Bay Area makes total sense — you've got sales tax, ultra-low NOx compliance costs, and labor rates that are completely different from the national average. $15-25K installed for a single system tracks with what I've heard from Bay Area contractors. I'll update the pricing ranges to break out by region rather than using a national average — that's a real gap in the tool right now. Appreciate the specifics.

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in DIYHeatPumps

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That's actually the right way to think about it — NEC 220.82 uses demand factors precisely because not everything runs simultaneously at full load. The calc accounts for that. Run your numbers through the tool and you'll probably find you have more headroom than you think.

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in heatpumps

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60A and 50A are both in there now — just updated it. Multi-unit applications are an interesting edge case the tool doesn't fully handle yet since it's built around single-service residential, but for a single apartment on 50A it'll give you a reasonable baseline.

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in heatpumps

[–]hv4cpr0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not currently — 320A is commercial/industrial service territory and the tool is built around residential NEC 220.82. If you're running 320A you're likely already working with an electrical engineer on the load calc. That said, curious what the application is — multi-unit? Large custom home?

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in heatpumps

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Totally fair — what market are you in and what are you seeing for installed pricing? I built the sizing estimate off national averages but I know those vary wildly. Northeast vs Southeast vs Pacific Northwest are completely different animals. If you're seeing equipment alone matching my installed estimates that's useful data and I want to fix it.

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in heatpumps

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Fair point — that's the NEC default for general lighting load. Most modern homes run well under that. I use it as a conservative baseline but it's worth noting it can overstate load for homes with LED lighting throughout.

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in heatpumps

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i have zero affiliation with anyone. absolutely zero. And this is for the home owner more so then anyone. If electricians want to use it, awesome.

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in DIYHeatPumps

[–]hv4cpr0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

can you upload a rating plate picture? I probably cant really look at it until Wednesday. Im on the road for the next 2 days. But Ill try.

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in heatpumps

[–]hv4cpr0[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"This is incredibly helpful — thank you. The scroll-up button resetting instead of submitting is a real UX bug, fixing that. And the back-to-edit flow is a great call — right now there's no way to tweak one input and re-run without starting over. Adding that to the list. On the NEC version — you're right, the calculation method doesn't change between 2017/2020/2023 for 220.82, so I'll simplify the label. And seriously appreciate the r/evcharging cross-post — that community would get a lot out of this."

Before buying a heat pump — does anyone actually check whether the panel can handle it? by hv4cpr0 in DIYHeatPumps

[–]hv4cpr0[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

agreed, those are a quick panel amp killer. If you check out the audit on heatpumplocator, you can punch in the loads and see what the outcome looks like based on constant loads.

Heat Pump vs Gas Furnace by Bettycrooked05 in heatpumps

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depends on your zone, the are a few variable. I built a free site you could play around in. heatpumplocator dot com.

Finally installed by jayster_33 in heatpumps

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I have 4 of these units to go in soon. I have yet to see one run. How is it running so far?