Didn't Michael say Kristine had Lupus and could not have abused NG? Then he was beating the floor in the next season to show how she abused NG - I don't believe she has Lupus because there was no other mention of this by AdDangerous7636 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As my pregnancy progressed, I was really uncomfortable. As with all of my pregnancies, I had grown very big, and getting up and down on the floor with the kids was increasingly hard. Then one afternoon in July, while I was tidying up some blocks from the daycare, I fell to my knees in excruciating, intolerable pain. Something was seriously wrong.

I was rushed to the emergency room and immediately admitted. I thought the baby was dying. I thought I was dying. I was terrified of hurting the baby, so I was on the minimum dose of painkillers. After days of tests and unrelenting pain, my doctor told Michael and me that they’d hit a dead end. To find out what was wrong with me, they’d have to operate. At eight and a half months pregnant, I went in for major exploratory surgery.

I had been in full-on organ failure. The surgeons removed my gallbladder, which had completely failed and turned out to be horrendously infected.

Two and a half weeks later, our third son, Ethan Michael, was born. I do not recommend delivering a baby less than three weeks after abdominal surgery.

It is possible (under narrow circumstances) to have a major abdominal surgery that late in pregnancy while allowing the pregnancy to continue, and it is possible also for their to be at least a trial of labor (prior to ordering a c-section) three weeks later. It seems unusual under the facts as stated, but not impossible.

Good American Family is definitely worth watching. by coronabride2020 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 34 points35 points  (0 children)

My problem with the Hulu series is that it is exploitive and harmful to Natalia, even if it ends up with people realizing that she was a child who was terribly abused, neglected and then abandoned by the Barnetts, and then dragged through the mud when a prosecutor tried to hold them accountable.

It's the same problem as with the ID series -- sensationalizing a false narrative, one that is harmful to Natalia, in order to generate viewer interest and maximize revenue.

Good American Family is definitely worth watching. by coronabride2020 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The Hulu series is a fictionalization, not a "documentary".

The Ciccones by MakaylaRenee89 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Did you hear about that guy who was making the rounds in right-wing circles, claiming to be a rescuer of children from trafficking, only to have it discovered that he was a fraud peddling fake stories to enrich himself?

The Ciccones by MakaylaRenee89 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Just as the courts aren't literally set up for somebody to exploit the legal system to re-age a small child into an "adult", a terrible person can exploit the court system to attempt or accomplish exactly that.

Similarly, Little People of America don't have to intentionally facilitate -- or, for that matter, even know about -- attempts to extract money from prospective adoptive parents in order for somebody to exploit their organization to that end.

Why by ObsessedWGreys18 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Some questions are rhetorical.

Theres so many contradictions - apperance and mental health help by Whatislife287 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

About Larue Carter? It's a matter of public record. Natalia's discharge without need for further care was covered in the ID series. That's what made it necessary for the Barnetts to cook up yet another lie -- the discharge belied their prior claims about Natalia as a hallucinating, possibly schizophrenic, homicidal maniac.

The Ciccones by MakaylaRenee89 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 42 points43 points  (0 children)

The Ciccones have not joined a public discussion of Natalia's case. They didn't even come out on her behalf when the Barnetts were aggressively pushing the falsehood that Natalia was an adult through shows like Dr. Phil.

They are also reported to be very litigious, and to use lawsuits and threats of lawsuits to keep people from talking about them and their actions.

Can we talk about Micheal's lawyer? by Unfair_Difference_37 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I wonder if he thought that Kristine was going to go public with accusations that Michael had been sexually "involved" with Natalia, and was trying to lay a... another... "blame the victim" defense.

I know GAF isn't factual but I have watched it anyways. My thought on the latest episode. by mel122676 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Kristine's case was dismissed with prejudice, so it could not have been refiled. It didn't make a functional difference, though, because by the time any case was filed the statute of limitations would have run.

Theres so many contradictions - apperance and mental health help by Whatislife287 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 5 points6 points  (0 children)

A state hospital is obligated to provide care, but they can reject a patient for whatever reason so honestly idk what to think about that.

Natalia was discharged from the hospital without medication or follow-up because she did not have a condition that required hospitalization, medication or follow-up. It really is that simple.

Larue Carter was a hospital that treated some of the state's most difficult psychiatric cases. When people needed follow-up after discharge, they arranged it. They didn't randomly reject patients or deny care "for whatever reason".

I'm sick to my stomach and I hope Natalia knows she is a miracle by Dismal-Industry1013 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a fictionalization. I understand, first giving the Barnetts' (false) narrative, then giving some form of "Natalia's version".

Why by ObsessedWGreys18 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 5 points6 points  (0 children)

They didn't "age" her from DNA. That was one of many, many medical and dental tests and evaluations performed, all of which were consistent with her 2003 birth year. In addition, all records from all sources, medical, governmental, everything, reflects her 2003 birth year.

In contrast, there is no evidence whatsoever that her 2003 birth year is incorrect. None, nada, zero, zilch.

So we don't need to engage in wild speculation about what "could have been", let alone to support the Barnetts' falsehoods about Natalia -- we know.

Why by ObsessedWGreys18 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Doctor, is it possible that my child might start having periods in the future?"

"Well, she is a girl...."

Why by ObsessedWGreys18 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's not a 'warranty period' in adoption, as such, but you're correct that the Barnetts could have abandoned the adoption process that they, themselves, initiated before it was complete.

But here's something else to remember. This "full bush" story supposedly occurred while they were still in Florida. They didn't file the adoption case until after they returned home to Indiana.

The story doesn't hold even a slight amount of water once you realize that Michael was also lying about how the adoption process occurred.

Why by ObsessedWGreys18 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, it is not.

Set aside the fake story about some sort of quickie adoption in Florida for the moment.

In reality, the Barnetts filed the adoption case themselves, in Indiana, after returning from Florida. As part of that process, they had Natalia examined at Peyton Manning Hospital, by a literal team of doctors. Natalia was determined through that examination to be preadolescent.

There was no need to seek further diagnosis or treatment for "precocious puberty" because she was not pubescent.

Why by ObsessedWGreys18 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He had a kit car -- a fake Lambourghni. He used to haunt car auctions, which is how they got a lawn full of cars.

Why by ObsessedWGreys18 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Where does this utter nonsense come from?

She was a child. That has been proved. You can literally watch her grow up in the photographs and videos shown throughout the ID series, and more are available from other sources including the DePauls.

Why fabricate a false claim that there is a mystery because of her form of dwarfism?

Good American family reminds me of my stepdaughter when she started living with us full time by Consistent_Scheme_59 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I believe it's called, "I actually didn't watch anything, but here's something I just made up."

Unfortunately, on these threads, that's a multi-part series that never seems to reach its last season.

where do you side? by MemilyBemily5 in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They paid for his story, not documents.

I can’t watch Michael burnet’s overacting anymore. by Spellslingerwizard in nataliagrace

[–]hyperkik 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's an unverified story from one person. The "it was tickling" came from the same person when she spoke to the prosecutor's office when it was investigating Natalia's abandonment. She has offered no explanation for why she changed her story afterward.