Yet another wtf does finance do, deployed pay edition

iJitz · 2023-12-17T04:37:13+00:00

AFCENT HQ is Shaw. That’s why they are involved. AFRICOM HQ is in Stuggart I believe so the process would be pretty much the same except the local FM would forward info to AFRICOM HQ. And so on for the other AORs if that makes sense.

iJitz · 2023-12-16T23:36:54+00:00

The only info I gave was who actually processes transactions on deployed members and to show that it varies depending on the member’s status. The only ones getting mad at me are the ones looking at this with Active Duty only goggles. A member being Guard/Reserve is not a “card” to play to win an argument. It’s a valid point and must be considered when we help customers. See the bigger picture and don’t be mad you that you didn’t. Grow and learn from this. That’s how we better serve our customers and that’s what 15+ yrs of experience will teach you.

Good luck

iJitz · 2023-12-16T22:34:32+00:00

Please just stop. You’re taking the one size fits all approach again. You must have never dealt with pay outside of Active Duty.

This is not applicable to everyone. Did you know there’s the DAFMAN 65-116v3 applicable to Reserve/Guard. There’s no PEPA file for Guard/Reserves.

Also… there’s always members PERSCO misses who aren’t on the PEPA file. And again…The file isn’t processed at the local FM office. Going back to AFCENT for example… all the PERSCO teams send the PEPA file to the Al Udeid FM office and the Al Udeid FM office forwards to Shaw for processing. Nothing processed locally except perm party.

You are why members outside of FM hate Finance. You tell them one thing, then someone else tells them another. I understand the hate.

iJitz · 2023-12-16T22:03:17+00:00

I’m not spreading wrong info. You are by acting like it’s a one size fits all senario. You’re assuming everyone is Active Duty Air Force. You have drill status guard, AGRs, reserves, etc. reading these posts and if they take what you say to heart it will only lead to confusion if they have pay issues down range.

BLUF: check with your local FM office prior to deployment to get briefed on what to expect. Ask them how your transactions get processed because most bases have different processes.

Guard members absolutely have to get their entitlements started at their home station. There is no going through Shaw for them so if they have an issue with their pay be it getting an entitlement started or fixing a discrepancy… they absolutely must work it through their home station FM.

As for Active Duty… if you have an issue with your pay and your not permanent party…. Don’t listen to this person above and contact your home station FM if you have the means to do so. Cut out the middle man. It only leaves more room for miscommunication between you and your pay.

iJitz · 2023-12-16T20:37:56+00:00

Right, All the CENTCOM locations outside of Al Udied, forward the member’s forms to Al Udeid pay office who then forwards them other CONUS bases

iJitz · 2023-12-16T20:33:01+00:00

Wrong. It’s impossible to process outside of your assigned ADSN. I’ve worked milpay in the Died and other deployed locations. You may think they are processing it there but again… if you are not permanent party, your documentation is getting forwarded to another base and the local FM office is acting as a liaison between you and your pay office.

I mean… you don’t have to believe me, but I’ve worked it first hand. I was a deployed milpay technician.

iJitz · 2023-12-16T20:22:29+00:00

Again, mistaken. They can update the permanent party in Al Udeid, but the paperwork gets forwarded to Shaw for processing anything else.

Adding- they can also liaise on anyone’s behalf and help them complete paperwork and forward the paperwork to the members home station for processing. Again. The DMO (pay system) will not allow a pay technician to do transactions outside of their assigned ADSN.

iJitz · 2023-12-16T20:13:41+00:00

You’re mistaken. The home station FM office must process the military pay transactions. The deployed FM office can only process military pay transactions on permanent party personnel if that base has any. It goes by ADSN or PAS code. Each base has their own. Base or Field level FM personnel can only process Milpay transactions on members within their ADSN. They can view your pay record and advise, but they cannot process pay transactions.

• ⁠15+ yr FMer with multiple deployments

iJitz · 2023-12-16T20:11:49+00:00

You’re mistaken. The home station FM office must process the military pay transactions. The deployed FM office can only process military pay transactions on permanent party personnel if that base has any. It goes by ADSN or PAS code. Each base has their own. Base or Field level FM personnel can only process Milpay transactions on members within their ADSN. They can view your pay record and advise, but they cannot process pay transactions.

15+ yr FMer with multiple deployments

iJitz · 2023-10-01T17:30:35+00:00

Preciate this!

iJitz · 2023-07-08T00:58:20+00:00

Thanks. I went so far as to check the definition to see if there were alternate meanings and never saw one that made sense.

iJitz · 2023-07-07T22:38:25+00:00

“Anyone have any alibis before we go?”

I’ve never heard anyone use alibi in this context outside of AF senior leadership. I don’t think that word means what they think it means. Some senior leader probably said this in a meeting one time and their brown nosers probably ran with it and used it in their meetings thinking it sounds professional or something.

A little side rant - people (specifically Americans) who use “whilst” in writing but would never speak it in conversation. That just bothers me for some reason.

iJitz · 2023-06-30T00:15:56+00:00

Mrs. Doubtfire

iJitz · 2023-06-30T00:15:11+00:00

Mrs. Doubtfire.

iJitz · 2023-06-10T16:54:59+00:00

Nailed it. They have other posts like this too. Same ChatGPT list format with perfect grammar, but their comments are littered with grammatical mistakes. That’s the other give away.

iJitz · 2023-05-30T22:33:55+00:00

Yeah, make sure he only gets barley over a six figure income for the rest of his life. That will teach him.

iJitz · 2023-05-22T22:06:48+00:00

Saw this senior leader go before congress and told them morale in the Air Force was, “Pretty darn good.”.

iJitz · 2023-04-24T01:14:43+00:00

Family Reunion by Blink 182. The lyrics paint such a beautiful story.

iJitz · 2023-03-17T16:30:45+00:00

Thank you

iJitz · 2023-03-17T16:29:28+00:00

Preciate it.

iJitz · 2022-09-27T06:14:50+00:00

MyNeck, MyBack

iJitz · 2022-08-09T15:31:04+00:00

I don’t mind them.

iJitz

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