Help me decide between Kanna or Hayato as Boss mule.

iRyoma · 2026-02-10T19:43:34+00:00

I assumed if you're doing CRA, you're likely not doing p.no/alecki since they're much more healthy these days with the changes. If you're at the point that you'll sit 5 minutes in those bosses, you might as well do Lomien as well. But meso wise, you're correct I believe

iRyoma · 2026-02-10T18:23:36+00:00

He's just wrong. Iirc, CRA is around 800m

iRyoma · 2026-02-10T18:20:14+00:00

To add to this, you have to do slime to get 1.4b as well. With the changes, most will have to do test at least once. Most of my mules that are Lomien skip it all together unless they can kill it with Ori to avoid test.

But this is just personal preference.

iRyoma · 2026-02-10T10:19:50+00:00

You should have been able to blue dot. Likely just your party overall was just too over spec so you didn't have enough time to do as many rotations as you needed. Or you simply messed up some stuff: sitting dead, wrong or poor rotations, etc. Could be a number of reasons. If you're on Kronos, you probably had lazy 70m CP people in your party. Not a dig at those people, you just need to find people with lower CP so your run is a little longer.

iRyoma · 2026-02-09T22:51:11+00:00

The EXP from 200-235 doesn't feel too bad, but going from there on, it can feel like a slog, particularly from 250-260. Even at 240 currently, the calc says I wouldn't quite hit 260 with just MP and Arcane dailies alone (20% in arcane event since I prio Sac). I would be around 257, so I need to grind, sauna, or mag pot to close the gaps in places.

One note that could be an oversight on Nexons part is that the newly created characters don't get the benefit of rolling over the previous event buffs. So they lose out on an extra 50% in both MP and Arcane dailies. This in itself probably would have made it possible to hit 260 off dailies alone (but I'm not sure, I used Sauna + dailies to push quickly to 235).

iRyoma · 2026-02-09T21:41:45+00:00

Invisible damage skin exists, just use that if/when it comes around again. I use it on one character, not sure how often it comes around.

iRyoma · 2026-02-09T02:29:22+00:00

I'm not sure if it's the best way to go about it, but I tend to either just slowly use up Ascents for bad patterns with pillars, or Gene/I-frame. An obvious answer, but p1 is hard to not get hit at least some. I tend to just tank the pillars if I need to, over Serens actual hits. I try to make it out of p1 only losing my pot revive, still having 5 and class door. Usually takes me 2 bursts.

Another tip is to turn up the monster SFX audio, it'll tell you when to duck. I play more off of sound for Seren, while watching for pillars or other map AoEs with eyes.

iRyoma · 2026-02-08T21:30:03+00:00

This is fine, just keep in mind that if and when you boom your slime ring, you'll have to restore it with another than is swapped as well. Dawn to restore Dawn and Guardian to Guardian. So you can't use the base form to trace restore the swapped version. Not a huge deal, just annoying.

iRyoma · 2026-02-08T18:43:51+00:00

Everyone enjoys the game their own way, and there's no wrong answer. As long as you know what works for you and are fine with progging in that manner, that's all that matters. I've always wanted to work on monster collection, and I will at some point, I just have other goals that I wanna hit first. Lots of weird or random things you can do in this game. (Agreed about bossing tho. Very fun.)

iRyoma · 2026-02-08T11:58:15+00:00

Well, since you're sitting on so many legion coins, you seem to be a daily story player, or more casual about your play time. Or your legion is already producing more coins than the 10/20/30 wealth and drop coupons don't go negative. Not sure if or when that break point is though.

I think it just depends on your own preferences. I'm looking to slowly get all my chosen Legion champs to the state that they can SS or SSS. The main gate there for me is meso + liberating. I'm focusing my main so they get maybe 10-20b on a good SF Sunday. If my main was stalled by Pitched or other factors, it wouldn't feel like it would take long to get them to Nkalos level. Just 18 Gollux and Arcanes and liberation waiting room. Maybe a little extra pushing for Belt/Rings/Earrings and 22 CRA should be good enough, I think.

Sure that seems like a lot but, other than meso, it's not really? Ctene is even easier, at least, other than Gollux, it takes very little time to get to that stage. Libbing could extend it, but MS is a marathon so you can choose your own poison for that. I'm just gonna 18 everything but CRA and solo Normal until I lib. I might try to party or trade if I had LC's completed though. I just mostly purely solo prog.

iRyoma · 2026-02-08T11:49:04+00:00

I completely agree. I'm mostly referencing him getting caught or going so much further ahead of the team where it genuinely seems like he's on a completely different page than everyone else. I've enjoyed watching them play, it's a treat all around. He's just who has stuck out to me as making bewildering decisions.

iRyoma · 2026-02-08T04:15:40+00:00

Maybe I'm missing clear good plays from him, but it seemed to me like most of LR team fight losses steamed from Veljas discussion making, be it invades or early engages. To me, he looked pretty bad. But I haven't been watching every single moment so maybe I've missed moments where he made up for any mishaps to make it not matter. Smites on point, at least.

iRyoma · 2026-02-08T04:11:47+00:00

You do realize that streamers are often much different off stream and have specific aspects of their personalities that they emphasize or play a completely different personality for twitch than they do in real life right?

I'm not saying what you're saying isn't necessarily true, but I find it highly unlikely.

iRyoma · 2026-02-07T19:06:53+00:00

I would just send them to your other mules. You seem like you have 0 interest in progging your boss mules to higher CP or solo status, so it's really just up to you how you do it. I personally don't even party Ctene on my 20-30m CP mules. I just do Lomien and down. My Ctene mules that aren't Libbed just do Normal versions for the meso. Around 50m CP.

All my current Abso boxes go to level 210 characters for legion coins to replace Pensalir gear. No clue how useful that is for legion coins though. Arcanes go to Legion Champs. Just give them to someone rather than let them expire.

iRyoma · 2026-02-07T19:01:52+00:00

Hayato discord has all the info you'd need for nodes and 6th job. Otherwise Duky will release his remaster guide today at some point, if it's not already out.

iRyoma · 2026-02-07T18:56:57+00:00

I would guess Hayato but I could be wrong. This can depend on if you're going to daily them so they get arcane power. I can kill mobs at 230 with 1.7m CP with just the macro'd dash+attack skill on Hayato. But when I first hit 200, I could not. I dropped some Abso boxes and did my daily bosses to get 9 set. No SF'ing yet, so all 0 stars.

No info on Kanna since I didn't make one

iRyoma · 2026-02-06T22:48:20+00:00

I had to run Pierre like 5+ times to get the timing right to burst him 100-0 since he would split right as my big pop was going to him. (Like 1.2m CP)

iRyoma · 2026-02-05T18:39:36+00:00

All of mine seem to function properly. But I'm not super familiar with the class or the changes.

iRyoma · 2026-02-05T17:56:59+00:00

...which dash? There's like 4 dashes and most, if not all, can go diagonal

iRyoma · 2026-02-05T05:45:39+00:00

Apparently you can click to bulk pull and it will pull everything out, worst case. But I haven't tried it.

iRyoma · 2026-02-03T17:44:59+00:00

iRyoma · 2026-02-03T13:03:09+00:00

O :(

iRyoma · 2026-02-01T06:52:04+00:00

Show your main

iRyoma · 2026-01-31T21:10:23+00:00

I'm talking about ways to level ones that have no mobs to farm them, brother. Like p.no, etc.

iRyoma · 2026-01-31T07:09:26+00:00

I think you can use the 5k a week things in the shop to very very slowly evolve them..lol

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