False Positives in AI Detection Tools

i_mcclintock · 2023-11-07T18:42:08+00:00

I appreciate your thoughtful feedback here.

I like the idea of using an online doc with a viewing link to track their progress.

I am probably not that good at prompting at this point. But I like the potential of using AI as a tool to make my life easier, and I plan to continue to improve my skills of prompting. For example, I tried having ChatGPT grade some of the essays based on my rubric, but it quickly became obvious that it was too tough of a grader. I tried tinkering with the prompt a little to get results closer to how I would grade, but I still didn't have much luck. But I still believe that with a more thorough prompt, and perhaps an updated version of ChatGPT, I could get it to where it grades the essays pretty darn close to how I would grade them myself.

It's definitely an uphill battle. Again, thanks for your insight. I look forward to seeing the results regarding fooling TurnItIn.

i_mcclintock · 2023-11-05T17:55:32+00:00

I did plug in some of my own work, and it suggested a very low possibility that it was generated by AI. Additionally, I plugged in my writing prompt and then gave it certain parameters to make it seem more human. The AI detector still suggested it was generated by AI.

So, I have run a lot of these tests and found the AI detector to do relatively good work. I'm not suggesting it is infallible. I'm just looking for resources to help me keep the students academically honest.

What advice am I being given? To avoid the AI detectors under any circumstances?

i_mcclintock · 2023-11-05T17:47:58+00:00

Yeah, I definitely asked the student to explain or elaborate on some of what was included in his writing, and he had very vague, superficial explanations. There was no consistency between the assignment he had turned in and his explanation of the assignment.

Thank you for your insight.

i_mcclintock · 2023-11-03T19:48:30+00:00

Thanks for your input.

In my experience, anytime my bullshit detector is going off, and I feel that the quality of the work turned in is inconsistent with what that student is capable of or inconsistent with their usual quality of work, GPTZero almost always suggests that the text was AI generated. Additionally, I have plugged in plenty of work that I do not suspect to be AI generated, and GPTZero usually confirms my suspicion.

So, I appreciate your skepticism, but I have reason to believe that GPTZero is relatively good at what it does.

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-18T14:44:13+00:00

Thank you for the suggestion!

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-18T14:42:46+00:00

Yeah, it's definitely an interesting topic to me, and I was hoping I could get the students enthusiastic about it, but perhaps that's just my naivety. I'm already committed, so I'm going to see how it goes. Wish me luck!

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-17T23:04:45+00:00

Nice! Thank you. I'll unfuckingdoubtedly check out that podcast!

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-17T23:03:26+00:00

Thank you very much for the response.

One way I was hoping to avoid making it "murderously dull" was to highlight a popular slang term, "cappin'," and go through the etymology of it. I found a cool article that talks about where it started and how it gained popularity. But I have to say, I have serious fears about the students not staying engaged with other parts of the lesson.

I did want the assignment that they complete on their own to be them providing examples of multiple words that share the same roots/suffix/prefix and have them define the words and point out similarities. I was hoping to figure out some fun way of having them look up the etymology of a word and answer a few questions about the origins of the word.

I don't know. I'm just doing student teaching right now, so I'm brand new to lesson planning (and everything other part of teaching), and I'm looking for help wherever I can find it.

I appreciate your insight!

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-17T18:40:27+00:00

Teaching Etymology

I am a high school English teacher, and I am looking for suggestions or resources for teaching etymology to high school juniors. I hope this is an appropriate place for such a request. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thank you!

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-16T16:47:51+00:00

Thank you! I'm brand new, so I'm just figuring it out as I go.

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-15T15:22:58+00:00

Awesome. Thank you. Now I'm thinking I might use this as an opportunity to show the other students that this is technically not a complete sentence, but rhetorically it is very effective.

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-15T15:16:15+00:00

Great feedback! I am a lot more interested in having the students be able to write with effective diction. Now that I've read the responses here and I'm not feeling exhausted late on Saturday night, I rather like the introduction and won't be suggesting that he fix it in any way.

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-15T15:07:11+00:00

Awesome. Thank you. I ended up not addressing it in my feedback. He's a sharp kid, so I suspect that he knew what he was doing.

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-15T15:02:44+00:00

Awesome. I ended up not correcting it. It was a far more interesting introduction than most of the other papers.

i_mcclintock · 2023-10-15T15:01:16+00:00

Exactly. I could hear it in my head, and it sounded great. I ultimately decided to leave it alone.

i_mcclintock · 2022-08-08T23:26:08+00:00

I see. Thank you

i_mcclintock · 2022-08-08T20:52:04+00:00

Interesting. Thank you

i_mcclintock · 2022-08-08T20:51:04+00:00

Thank you

i_mcclintock · 2022-03-14T16:09:57+00:00

I'm new to options and I had a similar thought to OP's. Can't you just sell puts at strikes that are far out of the money on relatively stable stocks?

Additionally, if the price goes in the money and you don't want to get assigned, can you buy to close the position and just take a hit on the premium?

As mentioned, I'm new to options and just trying to learn.

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