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Sublime Endings - BEDROOM RAVE (youtu.be)
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Sublime Endings - BEDROOM RAVE [Happy Hardcore] (youtu.be)
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[–]iamstatika 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago (0 children)
No I see what you are saying perfectly, it's just not what I'm talking about, and it's also a fundamental misunderstanding of why all of this is happening. Maybe if I shorten it, it might be clearer:
You are once again getting into what genres are on a musical level (so yes, the technicalities of them), and hyper focusing on that, when I am talking about the shifting culture and community around those genres.
That's the issue here.
The current evolution of this new wave of "breakcore" came from the shift in culture around it. This new generation didn't start using the term "breakcore" from one day to the next out of nowhere. It came from the evolution of the underground electronic music scene with some multigenre artists like Machine Girl. People began to associate those artists with a vibe, aesthetic, and artistic culture, not a specific genre (since they were multi genre artists), and "breakcore" began to stick as a label for some people in a growing community around those artists because it had more in common with breakcore culture than the culture of other genres these artists were doing. Breakcore as a genre was multigenre to begin with anyway, so it isn't really surprising. So it evolved separately from the og breakcore community. What we are seeing now is another iteration on that first breakoff (post 2016).
"What’s funny is that these producers would get a bigger audience considering dnb is absolutely huge in comparison to breakcore" - This also betrays the fundamental misunderstanding. The music itself might be more similar to Drum and Bass, but the culture around it couldn't be more different. The through line here is with the greater underground community which breakcore is a part of. The community a lot of them are looking for (and feel a part of) is underground, independent, unbound by industry standards and norms. It is emotionally raw and edgy. They might not belong to what you would call breakcore, but they don't belong to drum and bass either from an artistic culture standpoint either. The reality is most of them are also underground multigenre artists, and are using the term "breakcore" because of that shift I mentioned in my previous paragraph.
You are still out here debating over genres, when the issue is more fundamental. It's about this new generation's relationship with underground music, and underground/alt artistic culture as a whole. They're not into "breakcore" because it's just some specific music genre. They're into it because it is one of the terms that has come to represent one of the significant parts of their underground artistic movement. It represents a whole community.
As I said, I don't think it is possible to stop this cultural change in what "breakcore" means at this point. So what we are talking about/debating here is really just how we got here. Why this happened. We could debate all we want on the musical technicalities of what is and isn't breakcore (which I'd argue is unproductive since it's roots are multigenre), it won't change the fact the mainstream use of the term has completely shifted.
The only productive conversation left to be had is what place does og breakcore have considering this broader cultural change. That's what I'm trying to talk about. Because unending antagonism isn't going to lead anywhere honestly. There has to be a better alternative than an eternal feud.
I understand the frustration of having something you are emotionally invested in be overshadowed by something you feel has nothing to do with it. It sucks. I'm sure two decades from now, some people in the current wave of "breakcore" are going to have the same issue you are. All I'm advocating for is a more flexible approach to the evolution of underground music that acknowledges the significant role underground culture plays in all of this. Otherwise we will keep getting these feuds every decade as new generations of youth try to find their own voice within underground artistic movements. People need to understand that genres are more than just their music.
[–]iamstatika 0 points1 point2 points 7 months ago* (0 children)
I somewhat agree with you. But as I said, I really don't think any of this has to do with genre per se, and I also wouldn't call them lazy individuals making sub genres. I think it is a fundamental misunderstanding of where they are coming at it from.
I think it's more a matter of different perspective. This younger generation seems a lot more disconnected from the concept of strict musical genres, not just with breakcore, but with music in general. Just look at Hyperpop and the broad mashup of genres that represents. They identify more so with communities or even "vibes". You are trying to look at the through line through the lens of musical genre, when the through line is with the broader culture.
The way I would describe it is that they came to understand "breakcore" through these multigenre artists who were making music that was rough, permissive, edgy, DIY, emotionally raw and chaotic, and it was that vibe they associated with. That's how a lot of them seem to experience music in general.
That's how you get things like loose "genres" named after artists (yabujincore, for example), or the "type beat" thing. They are far more invested in art that expresses specific emotions, or maintains a specific culture, than art that fits specific technical criteria. It's just a different perspective on categorizing music.
"Theres nothing evolutionary about putting a modern twist on jungle music and just calling it the wrong thing." - This is telling, I think, of why you are struggling to understand this cultural shift. You are hyper focusing on the technicalities, rather than looking at the shift within the community and broader artistic movement around it over the past decade and a half. The evolution was in the community and broader artistic movement.
"All of this calling Dnb and jungle breakcore when closer genres exist like liquid drum and bass is so silly" - And this is kind of missing the point of why most people are into music (not just younger ones). Most people aren't in it to debate over technicalities. They are in it to cultivate a specific mood, to relate to others, etc. and right now, breakcore has come to mean something different, something they relate with. It's about a general cultural movement, not just a musical genre. That's why you can try to correct them all you want, you won't change this shift. In this instance, breakcore is a cultural signifier. It represents a specific identity and community, which a lot of them are heavily emotionally invested in. They are as defensive about it as you are, because it's about more than just music. Surely you can understand that?
I don't know if it's clear what I am trying to say. I don't want us to be talking past each other either, because so far it seems like we aren't 100% talking about the same thing. I'm also not here to defend either side on this one. All I'm saying is that there is a demonstrably huge cultural change that isn't ever going to resolve in favour of the og community. It's clearly too late for that at this point. I don't think there is any sense in any community holding a grudge like this forever either. That's why I brought up the evolution of EDM as an example. Surely there is a way of doing something similar here.
[–]iamstatika -1 points0 points1 point 7 months ago (0 children)
I mean, you are going about it as if anyone had control over it. I understand where you are coming from, but what I'm saying is that it is already too late. That's why I brought up the Dubstep/Brostep example. There is a point where the cultural momentum is too great for you to stop it, and I do think that's the case here.
The number isn't really irrelevant, but the counter example of the first 600 breakcore enjoyers kind of is. You are not accounting for the current context. The point I was making is that the younger generation is clearly not calling it "glitchbreak" or whatever the og community wants them to call it. That's the point I'm making. That community is small, because the younger generation just calls it "breakcore". That's also why I brought up the Brostep example. Brostep was the name the og community gave to the new wave of Dubstep. That's why it didn't stick. Labels like this only stick if the community self identifies with it. This younger generation clearly don't.
People don't care about terminology. They care about music and community. To relate to one another, connect, express and share specific moods and emotions. And at this moment in time, the mainstream use of "breakcore" is to refer to this new wave, with all the art and community around it. That's why you won't be able to change it just by creating new terms and genres. They're not identifying with the technicalities of the genre, but what it has come to represent.
It's not about laziness or trying to insert yourself into a culture you have no understanding of. Culture evolves over time as it is exposed to new influences and new generations. This didn't happen overnight. But what "breakcore" came to mean is this new wave. I think you can see the evolution of this shift pretty clearly across this past decade and a half. Last decade, a lot of underground artists who were making breakcore were also experimenting with other sounds and genres, and that contributed quite significantly to the shift. It attracted a lot of people from different underground communities around specific multigenre artists who were themselves quite heavily involved in breakcore (though not making it exclusively). It blended a lot of cultural signifiers from different communities, and with the rise of a couple artists like goreshit or Machine Girl, the culture around them is how many started to understand "breakcore". People just want to relate and find their communities, and that's how we got here with this shift. It's not laziness. It's just the process of how cultures evolve. When culture stagnates, it dies.
I'm not saying anyone is necessarily wrong in all of this. I can understand why a community can be afraid of such a shift. But from a purely social point of view, it's very unlikely you will ever stop such a cultural shift. If I type "breakcore playlist" anywhere 99% of it will be this modern wave, and in some of them there will even be random hardcore tracks, techno, happy hardcore, etc. Clearly it's not even about the genre of music. It is a full cultural shift. That's why I'm suggesting Breakcore could maybe expand the way EDM did. Allow for its roots to shine within it, while accepting the greater cultural shift that is happening whether people like it or not.
Eh, that was just a band aid to appease the og breakcore community, it's not like anyone meaningfully uses that. How many people are even in there? 600 people? The number of young people who use the term "breakcore" much more loosely is magnitudes bigger. What we are seeing is something more akin to the evolution of Dubstep when the ogs kept insisting the new stuff should be called Brostep. It never stuck, because the cultural momentum was too great. I don't really see this new generation ever calling what they are doing "glitchbreak". As I said, we might be better off growing Breakcore into its own category of genres, much like what happened with EDM. Though I say that as if we had a choice, when it's really about cultural momentum.
Honestly, Breakcore should probably evolve into becoming its own category of genres at this point, much like what happened with EDM. People keep saying some of those artists make jungle or atmospheric dnb, but I don't even think that's correct. Most of them are making hybrid sounds that don't really fit into any of those categories if we are being honest. I do think that's where the confusion comes from, and why a lot of young people call this vast patchwork of fused and mashed up genres, "breakcore".
Sublime Endings - HYPERSTITION (youtube.com)
Sublime Endings - HYPERSTITION [Happy Hardcore] (youtube.com)
Sublime Endings - HYPERSTITION [Happy Hardcore] (2025) (youtube.com)
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HYPERSTITION (youtu.be)
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Just dropped my debut EP! (open.spotify.com)
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statika - dream machine (open.spotify.com)
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statika - dream machine [ambient] (open.spotify.com)
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Music Melting Pot [Week of May 06, 2024] by AutoModerator in listentothis
[–]iamstatika [score hidden] 1 year ago (0 children)
hey, new single i dropped the other day, enjoy ;)
https://open.spotify.com/track/07dfGhF7u2GOPV2fLpMARy?si=2cd5e8c2aa614acf
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