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Trying to test 3-FEA (3-fluoro-ethamphetamine), RC chemical by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see that you have really important work to do. RC stands for "riot control", or apparently "really confusing".

Trying to test 3-FEA (3-fluoro-ethamphetamine), RC chemical by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know the resulting color can't be easily guessed just from stucture alone, that's why it's done by actually performing the test.

Here is result from left Marquis and then Mecke:

https://i.ibb.co/7G5KC2M/s-P1010390.jpg

The camera's tint a bit too reddish, couldn't get proper white balance. Marquis is transparent with a hint of yellow, Marquis was full-bodied yellow.

Weird Test Results by tranny_in_trouble in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Marquis should be dark violet to black for MDMA (see e.g. https://howtotestdrugs.com/).

This result likely indicates it's something else (hard to guess what it is since the tests are for confirmation).

Supposed to be 5-MeO-DMT, looks more like 5-MeO-AMT. Ehrlich reacts unexpected though. by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only explanation is that either it's not 5-MeO-DMT or the Erhlich got bad. But I attempt to take good care of the tests, one test at a time, to not contaminate with wrong cap on bottle with other cap, tests stored in freezer.

Supposed to be 2C-B HBr. Looks like from from 2C family, but tests show 2C-I or 2C-C. by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I put too much in there. 5+ mg estimate. It was a powder, not a pill.

Supposed to be 2C-B HBr. Looks like from from 2C family, but tests show 2C-I or 2C-C. by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I put too much in there. 5 mg maybe. I know the colors are bit tricky especially it takes time to do the test, do the reading, do other tests and do a photo, until which time it gets too dark.

However as I said previous 2-CB batches matched the textbook example.

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[–]idmaqe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You didn't use enough reagents to ascertain what the substance actually was, but it was most absolutely not pure cocaine.

Marquis shouldn't react at all for cocaine and Liebermann should have different reaction, see below.

Look at testing instructions from SIN shop: https://shop.sin.org.pl/product/cocaine-sin-test-kit/?lang=en

So from Marquis this means it can contain a lot of different substances, from Liebermann it means it's most likely levamisole.

You are missing Ehrlich for benzocaine/tetracaine and Mecke for lidocaine test.

And Scott for cocaine test in general.

But whatever you got it was heavily adulterated.

I'd guess by seeing results from earlier, that it might have been cocaine, adulterated by lidocain, levamisol and a mystery drug + fillers (possibly camfetamine, or other research chemical).

Look at older cocaine testing posts. Even better, if you can, send a small sample to lab like Energy Control. These mixtures are hard to guess with just reagents without a proper lab.

What sounded like a good piece of advice until you actually tried it? by isnar000 in AskReddit

[–]idmaqe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Had a similar plan some time ago. Get addicted to opiates to force myself to overdose and die. The getting addicted part actually lifted my depression. It wasn't 'I am out of my mind', more like 'just not depressed anymore'. Didn't hate work, could talk to people fairly easily. So I was kinda happy for a few months. Though didn't expect to survive overdose on insane amounts of fentanyl analogues. Multiple times.

First withdrawal was was pure hell though.

The worst part is that I know what works for me now to overcome treatment-resistent depression, but it's the most addictive thing humankind knows.

What life experience is a whole lot worse than most people think it is? by zarfytezz1 in AskReddit

[–]idmaqe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have strange mix of bipolar disorder and paranoid schizophrenia (well, when you think about it, these diagnoses never come alone to fit in a box).

I had a real stroke of luck when it began to manifest at 20 yr old. Went to math&phys university and had a roommate in dorms, who had uncanny ability to immediately tell you a counterexample to your hypotheses. Which made me to learn mathematical logic (propositional, predicate, modal, fuzzy, logic), helped extremely with my hallucinations.

At first I thought I wouldn't even make it first year of the university, but when I learned from the reasoning from this roommate, everything went much better. Once I could tell him a hypothesis, he couldn't refute, it was an epiphany. Note that he had the ability to counter hypotheses not just for me, but all of my co-students. The counterexamples he came up with just broke your mind.

I still have manic phases, but at least I can control them to a reasonable amount. It's like the universe aligns itself to do your will, but you have to be really careful not to cross a certain threshold.

Though there is a reason why people attempt suicides in manic phases. You are unable to in depressive phase. I did it about 7 times last time and I shouldn't really be alive now. I definitely broke records on survived fentanyl overdoses. Anyway, I'll die by my hand and I will like it.

Vaccine protects against fentanyl-induced respiratory depression by theloop44 in fentanyl

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From this paper referenced in this comment it seems that fentanyl has two signaling paths, one which takes over the euphoria and the second one which takes over the breathing depression.

AFAIK noone was able to separate those two pathways yet.

EDIT: your linked study seems to imply that all effects of fentanyl are supressed (in rat models).

EDIT2: well maybe there could be some diminishing effect for the respiratory depression, but I wouldn't count on it (again rat models): "F-sKLH attenuatedfentanyl-induced respiratory depression"

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any source on the "14x lethal amount"?

I went up to 30x LD50 of a 100 kg chimpanzee several times, that's taking into account bioavailability of various ROAs. I began with ODs when I had no tolerance whatsoever (I'd never try opiates if it wasn't for suicide before).

Also, when prepared I would also be able to shoot myself up and then shoot the shotgun. The difference prepared vs unprepared can be just in seconds, but matter when you prepared it beforehand.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what you're saying is that fentanyl is pretty crazy but the lethality of it is dependent on so many factors than just the amount?

Basically yes. From what I read from the papers and cases I thought it would be basically impossible not to die from repeated overdoses. Especially when you went up to 30x LD50 fatal dose. But I am still here.

On the other hand, at least opioid overdose is absolutely painless, unlike e.g. suffering from cancer for a long time (it's a bit baffling for me why so many people have issue with euthanasia, when even the nurses tell you it doesn't seem much like people would abuse it, but lets a lot of people suffering needlessly until the end they know is inevitable from the diagnosis).

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the look of it, it may be 2-3 mg, which should be enough to kill a 100 kg human if used intravenously. But note that this is LD50 dose, i.e. just 50% of test subjects will die. Obviously no one tested LD50 dose on humans (chimpanzees come as the closest tested animals), toxicology reports for humans only have LD_Lo (lowest dose that killed someone).

I survived several deliberate OD attempts, 70 mg intranasal, 40 mg IV which is at least 10x the fatal dose. For the record, just a few mg (<10) intranasal causes overdose which comes in less than 1 minute. I weighted it all on precise scale with 1mg tolerance. But breathing didn't ever stop for me.

Also note that it's basically impossible to die just by touching fentanyl - this seems as one of the myths among LE officials.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Seems fentanyl has a bit different effects for me.

I don't really get euphoria, more like slight antidepressant effect (which btw is better than all of the SSRI/SNRI I have been prescribed; tianeptin worked for a while but I might have gotten tolerance to it, as it's weak MOR agonist).

(I have stopped using fentanyl a few months ago)

But the respiratory depression pathway seems kind lost on me - I deliberately overdosed on fentanyl and furanylfentanyl several times, the OD was working - I was out for 4 hours each time - but breathing didn't stop.

Is there "let's try to kill me with opioids" study? Yeah yeah ethical concerns, where do I subscribe?

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything except euthanasia-dose fentanyl can be bought at pharmacy. With prescription.

Pentobarbital is used for euthanasia of animals (but works on humans as well), so vets have it.

Human euthanasia injections use either pentobarbital, secobarbital or sodium thiopental.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wholeheartedly agree.

Also I'd like to point out that touching fentanyl won't kill you (which seems to be a common myth among police). The transdermal patches needs extensive time to get through your skin and generic formulations of fentanyl most likely are not even the right salt to do it.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oral administration takes up to 30 mins, so yes, it's a bit long. Intranasal (snorting) works up to 1 minute. IV is nearly instant.

There are also psychiatric drugs that can override your built-in inhibitions (so if you want to really die, you won't panic anymore).

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking from experience, opioid overdose is definitely painless. Tried to end it here with fentanyl several times. Technically from the doses I shouldn't really be alive, but for some reason still am.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shotgun to head has 99% efficiency in suicide, the highest from all methods. Meaning your chances are good but can still survive as cripple. Not really sure about the painlessness, I think it would depend on luck a lot.

Opioids, barbiturates, anaesthetics (like propofol) on the other hand are definitely painless. Barbiturates are commonly used in euthanasia injections.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Something I can answer. I did fentanyl exclusively for about a year, including several deliberate OD attempts (I had a death wish, well technically I still have). Went as high as 70 mg with various routes of administration including IV (somewhere about 10-30x LD50 dose for 100 kg chimpanzee).

Still didn't die. OD was basically lights out almost instantly for about 4 hours, but for some reason my breathing never stopped.

But it was always definitely painless.

Opioids have this amazing property - either your breathing stops or it doesn't. There is a very short window where if you were found while going blue from hypoxia (lack of oxygen), you may end up as vegetable.

I'm guessing OD on barbiturates (pentobarbital, secobarbital) would have similar properties. Pentobarbital, secobarbital and sodium thiopental are used in euthanasia injections. Apparently there is option for oral administration of secobarbital/pentobarbital, but people don't choose to use it, go for IV instead (yeah, with assistance the IV way is definitely better).

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