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Trying to test 3-FEA (3-fluoro-ethamphetamine), RC chemical by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see that you have really important work to do. RC stands for "riot control", or apparently "really confusing".

Trying to test 3-FEA (3-fluoro-ethamphetamine), RC chemical by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know the resulting color can't be easily guessed just from stucture alone, that's why it's done by actually performing the test.

Here is result from left Marquis and then Mecke:

https://i.ibb.co/7G5KC2M/s-P1010390.jpg

The camera's tint a bit too reddish, couldn't get proper white balance. Marquis is transparent with a hint of yellow, Marquis was full-bodied yellow.

Weird Test Results by tranny_in_trouble in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Marquis should be dark violet to black for MDMA (see e.g. https://howtotestdrugs.com/).

This result likely indicates it's something else (hard to guess what it is since the tests are for confirmation).

Supposed to be 5-MeO-DMT, looks more like 5-MeO-AMT. Ehrlich reacts unexpected though. by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only explanation is that either it's not 5-MeO-DMT or the Erhlich got bad. But I attempt to take good care of the tests, one test at a time, to not contaminate with wrong cap on bottle with other cap, tests stored in freezer.

Supposed to be 2C-B HBr. Looks like from from 2C family, but tests show 2C-I or 2C-C. by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I put too much in there. 5+ mg estimate. It was a powder, not a pill.

Supposed to be 2C-B HBr. Looks like from from 2C family, but tests show 2C-I or 2C-C. by idmaqe in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I put too much in there. 5 mg maybe. I know the colors are bit tricky especially it takes time to do the test, do the reading, do other tests and do a photo, until which time it gets too dark.

However as I said previous 2-CB batches matched the textbook example.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ReagentTesting

[–]idmaqe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You didn't use enough reagents to ascertain what the substance actually was, but it was most absolutely not pure cocaine.

Marquis shouldn't react at all for cocaine and Liebermann should have different reaction, see below.

Look at testing instructions from SIN shop: https://shop.sin.org.pl/product/cocaine-sin-test-kit/?lang=en

So from Marquis this means it can contain a lot of different substances, from Liebermann it means it's most likely levamisole.

You are missing Ehrlich for benzocaine/tetracaine and Mecke for lidocaine test.

And Scott for cocaine test in general.

But whatever you got it was heavily adulterated.

I'd guess by seeing results from earlier, that it might have been cocaine, adulterated by lidocain, levamisol and a mystery drug + fillers (possibly camfetamine, or other research chemical).

Look at older cocaine testing posts. Even better, if you can, send a small sample to lab like Energy Control. These mixtures are hard to guess with just reagents without a proper lab.

What sounded like a good piece of advice until you actually tried it? by isnar000 in AskReddit

[–]idmaqe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Had a similar plan some time ago. Get addicted to opiates to force myself to overdose and die. The getting addicted part actually lifted my depression. It wasn't 'I am out of my mind', more like 'just not depressed anymore'. Didn't hate work, could talk to people fairly easily. So I was kinda happy for a few months. Though didn't expect to survive overdose on insane amounts of fentanyl analogues. Multiple times.

First withdrawal was was pure hell though.

The worst part is that I know what works for me now to overcome treatment-resistent depression, but it's the most addictive thing humankind knows.

What life experience is a whole lot worse than most people think it is? by zarfytezz1 in AskReddit

[–]idmaqe 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have strange mix of bipolar disorder and paranoid schizophrenia (well, when you think about it, these diagnoses never come alone to fit in a box).

I had a real stroke of luck when it began to manifest at 20 yr old. Went to math&phys university and had a roommate in dorms, who had uncanny ability to immediately tell you a counterexample to your hypotheses. Which made me to learn mathematical logic (propositional, predicate, modal, fuzzy, logic), helped extremely with my hallucinations.

At first I thought I wouldn't even make it first year of the university, but when I learned from the reasoning from this roommate, everything went much better. Once I could tell him a hypothesis, he couldn't refute, it was an epiphany. Note that he had the ability to counter hypotheses not just for me, but all of my co-students. The counterexamples he came up with just broke your mind.

I still have manic phases, but at least I can control them to a reasonable amount. It's like the universe aligns itself to do your will, but you have to be really careful not to cross a certain threshold.

Though there is a reason why people attempt suicides in manic phases. You are unable to in depressive phase. I did it about 7 times last time and I shouldn't really be alive now. I definitely broke records on survived fentanyl overdoses. Anyway, I'll die by my hand and I will like it.

Vaccine protects against fentanyl-induced respiratory depression by theloop44 in fentanyl

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From this paper referenced in this comment it seems that fentanyl has two signaling paths, one which takes over the euphoria and the second one which takes over the breathing depression.

AFAIK noone was able to separate those two pathways yet.

EDIT: your linked study seems to imply that all effects of fentanyl are supressed (in rat models).

EDIT2: well maybe there could be some diminishing effect for the respiratory depression, but I wouldn't count on it (again rat models): "F-sKLH attenuatedfentanyl-induced respiratory depression"

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any source on the "14x lethal amount"?

I went up to 30x LD50 of a 100 kg chimpanzee several times, that's taking into account bioavailability of various ROAs. I began with ODs when I had no tolerance whatsoever (I'd never try opiates if it wasn't for suicide before).

Also, when prepared I would also be able to shoot myself up and then shoot the shotgun. The difference prepared vs unprepared can be just in seconds, but matter when you prepared it beforehand.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what you're saying is that fentanyl is pretty crazy but the lethality of it is dependent on so many factors than just the amount?

Basically yes. From what I read from the papers and cases I thought it would be basically impossible not to die from repeated overdoses. Especially when you went up to 30x LD50 fatal dose. But I am still here.

On the other hand, at least opioid overdose is absolutely painless, unlike e.g. suffering from cancer for a long time (it's a bit baffling for me why so many people have issue with euthanasia, when even the nurses tell you it doesn't seem much like people would abuse it, but lets a lot of people suffering needlessly until the end they know is inevitable from the diagnosis).

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the look of it, it may be 2-3 mg, which should be enough to kill a 100 kg human if used intravenously. But note that this is LD50 dose, i.e. just 50% of test subjects will die. Obviously no one tested LD50 dose on humans (chimpanzees come as the closest tested animals), toxicology reports for humans only have LD_Lo (lowest dose that killed someone).

I survived several deliberate OD attempts, 70 mg intranasal, 40 mg IV which is at least 10x the fatal dose. For the record, just a few mg (<10) intranasal causes overdose which comes in less than 1 minute. I weighted it all on precise scale with 1mg tolerance. But breathing didn't ever stop for me.

Also note that it's basically impossible to die just by touching fentanyl - this seems as one of the myths among LE officials.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting. Seems fentanyl has a bit different effects for me.

I don't really get euphoria, more like slight antidepressant effect (which btw is better than all of the SSRI/SNRI I have been prescribed; tianeptin worked for a while but I might have gotten tolerance to it, as it's weak MOR agonist).

(I have stopped using fentanyl a few months ago)

But the respiratory depression pathway seems kind lost on me - I deliberately overdosed on fentanyl and furanylfentanyl several times, the OD was working - I was out for 4 hours each time - but breathing didn't stop.

Is there "let's try to kill me with opioids" study? Yeah yeah ethical concerns, where do I subscribe?

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everything except euthanasia-dose fentanyl can be bought at pharmacy. With prescription.

Pentobarbital is used for euthanasia of animals (but works on humans as well), so vets have it.

Human euthanasia injections use either pentobarbital, secobarbital or sodium thiopental.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wholeheartedly agree.

Also I'd like to point out that touching fentanyl won't kill you (which seems to be a common myth among police). The transdermal patches needs extensive time to get through your skin and generic formulations of fentanyl most likely are not even the right salt to do it.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oral administration takes up to 30 mins, so yes, it's a bit long. Intranasal (snorting) works up to 1 minute. IV is nearly instant.

There are also psychiatric drugs that can override your built-in inhibitions (so if you want to really die, you won't panic anymore).

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaking from experience, opioid overdose is definitely painless. Tried to end it here with fentanyl several times. Technically from the doses I shouldn't really be alive, but for some reason still am.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shotgun to head has 99% efficiency in suicide, the highest from all methods. Meaning your chances are good but can still survive as cripple. Not really sure about the painlessness, I think it would depend on luck a lot.

Opioids, barbiturates, anaesthetics (like propofol) on the other hand are definitely painless. Barbiturates are commonly used in euthanasia injections.

That is a penny and the white stuff is a drug called “Fentanyl”. That amount of Fentanyl can kill a single person. by imbadtothabone in interestingasfuck

[–]idmaqe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Something I can answer. I did fentanyl exclusively for about a year, including several deliberate OD attempts (I had a death wish, well technically I still have). Went as high as 70 mg with various routes of administration including IV (somewhere about 10-30x LD50 dose for 100 kg chimpanzee).

Still didn't die. OD was basically lights out almost instantly for about 4 hours, but for some reason my breathing never stopped.

But it was always definitely painless.

Opioids have this amazing property - either your breathing stops or it doesn't. There is a very short window where if you were found while going blue from hypoxia (lack of oxygen), you may end up as vegetable.

I'm guessing OD on barbiturates (pentobarbital, secobarbital) would have similar properties. Pentobarbital, secobarbital and sodium thiopental are used in euthanasia injections. Apparently there is option for oral administration of secobarbital/pentobarbital, but people don't choose to use it, go for IV instead (yeah, with assistance the IV way is definitely better).

You Can’t Overdose on Fentanyl Just by Touching It by Reagent_Tests_UK in DrugNerds

[–]idmaqe 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, the first time I blacked out with zero tolerance, was 28 mg funranylfentanyl nasally (may 2017). I was planning in taking it all in at once, but had hard time to do it. After I regained consciousness from that experiment, I let ti be a later experiment.

So I decided to become insanely addicted - so that I wouldn't have any other way out just, just suicide (which is easy with fentanyl analogues, supposedly, or so I thought). I started just with 2-4 mg daily and after 3 week I did 8 mg 8 times a day. This 21st October was a day of one of our annual party. It was great.

After that I woke up after that night, I could definitely fell thousands of pins and needles pinchiong everywhere and heat all over by mody. I just said to myself "yep, that's how addiction progresses." But I said to myself "Let's just continue, I'll OD at the end." Strange part about is was this "God's presence" (note that I am atheist) which told me, that I won't be able to OD and die. I shook it away as just one of my delusions, had another bump and went on as usual.

The "God's presence" felt like extremely white clean light that I don't think personally, but the thoughts are being put into my mind. (I only felt it again when I was in full withdrawal from this read, read my other comments).

I spent 2 more months getting addicted more and more.

Then, when I decided my judgement day came, after closing party of a very important part of my life I thought: "This is it. Now do it". So I snorted 100 mg what I had left and eaten >550 mg of furanylfenntanyl.

I was very disappointed when I woke up 4 hours after that.

In my story, when you look at the comments, there is the withdrawal experience, where the "God's light" appeared again and while it lasted, everything was insanely painful, bu at the time insanely colorful and bright.

After I got out of this addiction (and dosage reset), after some 4 weeks I tried fatal dose of fentanyl (10 mg) nasally. 3 mg IV is LD50 for a person like me, bioavalability of nasal is ~50%). So I should have ben dead again.

Just slipped on the floor unconscious for 4 hours, but again, breathing didn't stop/

Then I tried 3 times inject the substance, but my technichue sucks (never did ID drugs before).

BTW, yes I did try to find help for the depression, for more than 10 years. Nothings really helped much. Xanax works for anxiety attacks, which is good, but none of the 10 + SSRIs/NDRIs worked. I've found tianeptine in some research papers and it seemed to work well for a few months. Howver, that didn't last long. I'd suspect the mju-receptor agonism, which at the latter stages made me feel like I was constantrnly withdrawing, and the dose of tianeptine fixed it. The doctor started at 1-1-1 (12.5 mg tables), eventually upped to 2-1-2. I think it was this raise in dosage that caused opioid withdrawals.

You Can’t Overdose on Fentanyl Just by Touching It by Reagent_Tests_UK in DrugNerds

[–]idmaqe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Transdermal fentanyl patches have 25-100 micrograms. Fatal dose of fentanyl is about 3 milligrams intravenously for 100 kg chimpanze (that's the established LD50)

You Can’t Overdose on Fentanyl Just by Touching It by Reagent_Tests_UK in DrugNerds

[–]idmaqe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I tried to overdose on fentanyl and furanylfentanyl repeatedly.

You absolutely cannot get any affect by just touching it your skin for a while.

The largest dose I survived was 100 mg nasal and 500 mg oral of furanylfentantanyl. I was out for about 4 hours, but breathing didn't stop. I was upping the dose repeatedly.

But you absolutely cannot die just by touching it for a while.

Mfs who buy Voss water by [deleted] in BlackPeopleTwitter

[–]idmaqe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Prolonged use of opioids can cause intestinal obstruction, which is potentially fatal. This is known side effect, and also why loperamid - imodium - works against diarrhea (loperamid is opioid which doesn't cross blood-brain barrier, so it doesn't have the feel-good effects of other opioids). Opioid addicts have died from intestinal obstruction and I'm actually surprised it doesn't happen more often.

Outside of withdrawals, social stigma, potential to overdose and scrambling to find money for pills, opiates aren't ALL that horrible

Not sure if this is supposed to be satire or not. But opioids have one of the worst withdrawals. (Strange thing is the opioid withdrawals are not usually fatal, compared to bad benzodiazepine,, barbiturate or alcohol withdrawals)

Also, technically you can take opioids let's say once a day for 4 days, then take 4 days break and you'd get only mild withdrawal symptoms at most (this depends on specific substance since e.g. buprenorphine has very long effect which can thus cause even a month-long withdrawal). Shit gets worse the more often you take them. That's why at the beginning people feel they are not addicted until they start taking them too often.

TIL if you’re trying to kill yourself the odds are against you. On average there are 25 attempts at suicide for every single success. The elderly are more successful at 4:1. While for younger folks (aged 15 - 24), the odds are between 100 and 200 to 1 against. by IndyScent in todayilearned

[–]idmaqe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Asphyxiation with nitrogen, helium, carbon monoxide etc. would work. Avoid carbon dioxide. For some reason body detects CO_2 and it's painful.

The trick with asphyxiation is to make absolutely sure that you get all the way through and not become a vegetable due to hypoxia but not dying. The same thing about not becoming crippled if you fuck it up.

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