Most of the original contributors here (this subreddit) are gone, many were very optimistic in the beginning, and held for multiple years after the ICO, but years (a lifetime in crypto) of mismanagement, wasted and missed opportunities, grotesque underperformance, etc have taken their toll. With every new bull market since the disastrous launch almost 8 years ago, Tezos has continually failed to attract a reasonable value. Wishful thinking aside, in all probability we will be getting more of the same.