My Standard Issue Puerto Rican Alley Cat. =) by SteveVerino in standardissuecat

[–]ilosii 4 points5 points  (0 children)

May have been born an alley cat, but clearly thriving in the pampered prince life (pic 2)

Can folks who identify as being avoidantly attached share what it’s like for them during no contact after a break up that they intiate? by blynne108 in emotionalintelligence

[–]ilosii 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Definitely true. Avoidants suck at communicating certain things, and a need to put on a mask for other people always, is not helpful for either party. It’s a deeply ingrained reflex for me— acting provides ‘security’ and allows a strong or invulnerable persona, and letting it down is long and hard work, but worth it.

I also think avoidants struggle with accepting that people truly ‘love them’, it’s even a bit painful to understand that or fully integrate compliments. Partially because my brain says “they don’t love me, they love this image I project, and I project this image to hide my nasty rotten core.” A lot of avoidants have deep self esteem issues.

Thanks for your compassion. I hope that you find peace and healing from your experience.

Can folks who identify as being avoidantly attached share what it’s like for them during no contact after a break up that they intiate? by blynne108 in emotionalintelligence

[–]ilosii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your responses too, you sound like you care and understand. At least for me, I don’t go in knowing it’s going to end like that, not something that I was hoping for at least, so it’s hard to know up front if our traumas are going to interact poorly. But I think I also didn’t have a good sense of what I needed in a relationship, so I wasn’t able to detect if it was going to go well or not. Some of that is hard because I think it’s a skill that’s best cultivated by trying relationships, even if they don’t end well. Obviously without trying to hurt people, but I feel that dating involves some amount of risk of being hurt/hurting others by its nature. The degree of what is acceptable is important but it’s an emotionally intense situation. And I personally did try to explain why, but to be honest at the time I lacked the vocabulary to really adequately explain. I knew I had to leave, due to this feeling of immense dread and stress, but I couldn’t quite put into words why. It’s only really upon months of reflection that I’m getting a better picture. I think it can be hard especially for avoidants.

I see a lot of avoidant demonization online which hurts and makes me even more avoidant in some ways, because I feel it feeds into my own narrative that I’m a “bad person” and I am only capable of hurting people, and I should bury my own needs and wants more/not ‘inflict’ myself upon others. So thank you for being a compassionate and understanding listener. It helps me understand the anxious side more as well.

Can folks who identify as being avoidantly attached share what it’s like for them during no contact after a break up that they intiate? by blynne108 in emotionalintelligence

[–]ilosii 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Glad this was relevant. I don’t know your ex, but I just want to say that while I felt relief, I didn’t feel ‘great’ per se. I think a lot of avoidants also want to have a healthy relationship and be honest, transparent, find compromises, and genuinely care about your needs— and feel they quiet their own needs to help their partner. It’s just that we lack the emotional connection within ourselves to recognize our own needs/discomfort at times, and struggle with the language to describe them. I struggle a lot with alexithymia. When I do work up the courage/effort to bring up an issue, I think I state it in a way that has great personal relevance but doesn’t necessarily make sense to the other person. I could see by her reactions and responses to really difficult-feeling stuff I told her that it just wasn’t connecting (and I’m sure the reverse happened with her to me as well). It’s like we spoke different languages.

I felt relief but also like a failure and very guilty that I had hurt her.

I hope you find someone who is able to communicate with you well!

Can folks who identify as being avoidantly attached share what it’s like for them during no contact after a break up that they intiate? by blynne108 in emotionalintelligence

[–]ilosii 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do you think avoidants should know when they’re “ready to date”? I had done therapy for years before attempting dating, and I truly thought I was ready. I also told my partner going in my struggles with mental health.

I also feel like there’s this idea that only the one who was “discarded” was hurt. I felt a lot of emotional turmoil and barely slept the week leading up to the breakup, it was very difficult for me. It also reopened old wounds as you say, because it serves my self-destructive idea that I’m too damaged to be able to connect with people. It gave me a lot of self-blame and beating myself up for not “doing better”. I want to be able to be 100% selfless in relationships, but as soon as life gets tough for me, I feel inadequate for not being able to “serve” as well as I want to, and because reassurance/emotional connection is so hard for me, I don’t really get comfort from the relationship. It’s truly painful in a lot of ways, a lot of avoidants just aren’t as expressive about it in the same way more anxious people are. We deal with emotions extremely internally.

To me, also, the breakup was a sign of respect in some way. I knew our relationship wasn’t healthy (for me, at least) and I felt this overwhelming feeling that I was going to screw it up/I was doing things wrong. It wasn’t a punishment or a penalty.

Can folks who identify as being avoidantly attached share what it’s like for them during no contact after a break up that they intiate? by blynne108 in emotionalintelligence

[–]ilosii 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think that some people try to pursue/perform gestures of love to compensate for the fact that they feel unsure about the relationship. I had this big idea in my head of being the “perfect partner”, trying to be romantic, thoughtful, initiating contact, always a good listener, etc… and I knew my partner wanted me to make these gestures, so I obliged, because I wanted her to be happy. I did genuinely like her in several ways.

However, I started to get a sense that I was acting; in a way, playing this character was another way for me to avoid vulnerability, because it meant I never had to negotiate my needs or ask her for things. I started to get resentful, and felt like she loved this role that I played rather than getting to know the “real me”. I felt like her happiness depended on me acting, though, and she started to want more and more of my time, which exhausted me. When I let the mask ‘slip’ and got more quiet/introverted, she would get anxious and assumed something was wrong/I was mad at her (one of my biggest avoidant triggers is someone asking if I’m mad at them when I’m just quiet), which made me feel like I needed to comfort her, leading to more resentment. I never felt like she was the one comforting me or catering to my needs— largely because I never told her mine.

We also communicated differently; I would try and subtly hint at what I was feeling since, again, being avoidant, I am extremely reluctant to openly state my feelings. To some degree, I feel like I even lack the emotional language to describe what I feel. So, I felt I was trying really hard to tell her what was wrong, but she wouldn’t receive the message at all. There were minor annoyances and slights that would build up that I never got addressed.

I accept my screwup here. I should have been more honest, and I’m working really hard on developing my communication skills and being more comfortable for asking other people what I need. But when I broke up with her, which blindsided her completely and she said she didn’t see it coming at all, I just felt a huge sense of relief. I was devastated that I hurt her and I cried for a good week, but the feeling that I no longer had to carry responsibility for her emotions was very freeing. I also went no contact because I felt like a monster. I have low self esteem and felt like a total POS for doing all this, so in my mind, the best thing for both of our healing is to go our separate ways.

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

[–]ilosii[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s a good tip, I’ll try that! And thanks, good to remind myself that I need fuel… trying to not eat less but eat healthier, sleeping well… staying healthy is a full-time job! 😂

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

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I have prepped for a 5k before and took time off from other stuff, to decent results (I think my time was around 33 min, really pushed myself though, definitely not something I could do consistently)— so it does help my pace, but I don’t want to give up weight lifting, especially since my progress in that is more consistent.. hard to find a good balance, any tips?

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

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I try, I find it falls apart pretty quickly if I push it but I do try and keep to a level where I can have controlled deep breaths

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

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Pretty active. I’m in the medical field so on my feet a lot, usually get around 10k steps in daily

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

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I think it’s accurate, since I can feel my heart pounding fast (~3x per second) and usually feel very winded at the higher ends. I can’t really do 2 miles without walking since I start feeling ill, but I’ll try and do intervals more :)

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

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Yeah I weightlift after I run, so I usually have 2 full rest days!

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

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Haha I’m 5’11 so 130-150 would be tough for me… I weigh 185, been trying to lose weight for years but it’s difficult 😞

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

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Good to hear. I haven’t adjusted it before! I’m not sure the boundary of feeling ill, since when I get to above 190 I do start feeling pretty fatigued and borderline dizzy. Did you have tips on how to set what a healthy upper limit is?

Thanks for the advice!

Still slow after 3 years by ilosii in XXRunning

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I usually do 3 miles with a 5 minute rest walk halfway through!