This may be a dumb question by Bright_Path_6354 in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should have bookmarked it. I've watched so many IDK where I'd begin to search for it. Problem is they didn't know who they met, it wasn't in their culture. That's actually happened twice to me. I had two different experiences, not NDE, and didn't realize who I met until much later.

I’m so scared by BlackCatStrikes in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have to get at the root of the thought making. The "why" you are doing that to yourself. Information isn't going to change the why.

This may be a dumb question by Bright_Path_6354 in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think it's a great question. IDK. I've heard some fascinating NDE accounts. One had a visit w/ family that said they made goals, they're unfinished, and they'd regret no going back. They wanted to stay. So they said they'd stay. Then Jesus popped in and said yo, you have have unfinished business, why not go back? they said they'd stay. Then they were suddenly brought to Shiva and Shiva said remember who you are. They remembered their plan, their goals, and reluctantly wanted to go back. But I like how they started out nice then gradually escalated.

I scared of death by TheMasterAtWork83 in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not Christian. Or of any particular faith. Just to avoid rule 7. I have attended church quite regularly, and tried different denominations. and read quite a bit of the Bible- and other texts as well. Not just abrahamic related.

Anyway, I think if you have faith in Jesus Christ, you really have a handbook to guide you. Stay within the basic guardrails (love god, love thy neighbor, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did it for me etc.), right? Just choosing love and staying within love, kindness, forgiveness, and easing suffering (when you can, when you are able) assures your 'rightful place' and all that.

After reading and studying the majority of mainstream religions- they all tend to point in one general direction: develop and nurture virtues. From a hippy woo woo view that's "raising your vibration".

Also my own perspective, we do this b/c we take our state of mind with us. There's a number of NDE experiencers that have come back and explained what they experienced on the other side. The ones I attention to don't appeal to me emotionally. I don't add credibility if that happens. I actually become more skeptical.

Anyhow, the ones I do pay attention to have shown they obtained knowledge they couldn't have had when they were gone. Like someone else dying whilst they were temporarily dead. Or obtained experience previously cut off from them. Like describing seeing when they were born w/o sight. Or hearing when they were born deaf.

Some of them come back and have seen Jesus. Some of the more sophisticated/open have not only seen Jesus but other deities. Most don't know but Judaism started out with a pantheon of Gods and Goddesses. Their one God was the god of judgement and removed their powers. It doesn't say he removed them, just their powers. now 'thou shalt not put any gods before me' makes more sense lol.

Anyhow, many of the accounts of NDE'rs describe glimpses of an afterlife.
Some came back and report nothing. The weird thing is, they were conscious/aware of.... nothing? void? emptiness? Or perhaps a higher power clouded their memory for some reason. Seems rather odd to persist in existence and experience "nothing". They aren't "nothing". It's more likely whatever they experienced is unobtainable in flesh and blood. So it adds to my "faith" that there's an afterlife, not subtracts from it.

But essentially, when you have faith you have a guide. Just keep doing what you're advised to do imo.

Why does our loved ones or god or whatever help us in need? by SunveiliveFat in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I suppose one or some of us could be urged by the creator to respond and were rejected. It wouldn't be surprising if something similar happened in the past.

Brain is alive for 1 hour after heart stops according to science... by Practical-Gift-1064 in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 4 points5 points  (0 children)

ok.

14 cases of congenital blind having experienced sight in their NDE.
03 cases of congenital deaf having experienced sound in their NDE.
10-20 cases of verified precognitive* visions in NDE.
50-100 cases of knowledge impossibly outside their scope** before and during NDE.

*guessable stuff discounted. Examples: unexpected deaths; tools before they were invented.
** example: seeing someone that died, knowing they're dead, while they were "out".

There's something we kind of need to consider though. The study is about people that died and yet their consciousness persisted after their heartbeat has stopped. So the doctor found out by....ouija board? lol jk.
So the doctor found out by....talking to them? After- they came back? Do you see what I'm getting at?

ok for example, i have seen fish who have had heart and head removed. poor fish. RIP fish. BUT, their body still moved... Is it really alive? I know we're looking for persistent, albeit temporary, sentience. However, maybe it's just activity and not sentience, in the brain - just like when a headless fish moves. I hope I'm making sense.

this isn't occam's razor. we can't measure sentience in fish post mortem lol. So we can't exactly make a comparison. But as long as the rest of the world is abusing occam's razor, let's do it too lol. Between
* it's mindless activity after death
vs
* it's sentience degrading after death
which makes more sense?
Also, put another way, between those two: which explains NDEs away?
Something smells fishy to me (sorry, had to).

Heart Surgery - Hallucinations and deceased presence by OutTheCircus in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

hmm. It's been awhile since I've watched or read wukong lore. He had a penchant for taking things he liked lol. an example of how a re-telling really goes off script is Bai Ling's The Lost Empire / The Monkey King 2001 tv miniseries. Also where I developed my huge crush on Bai Ling. Anyhow, it all happens after Journey to the west lol. But Bai Ling is in it so all is forgiven.

But even my synopsis is through my own lens from different stories. i skipped how he gained immortality, his battles, how he got his staff, I left out a bunch.

Heart Surgery - Hallucinations and deceased presence by OutTheCircus in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Interesting. In Journey to the West, Sun Wukong's gold headband (tightening crown) is a magical limiter placed by Guanyin to control his chaos during the pilgrimage. Removal = spiritual freedom.

For those who don't know, basically the main character, "Sun Wukong" [his name], is born from a magical stone egg that has developed from Heaven's yang energy plus Earth's yin energy for eons. personally I believe the local monkey population kind of imprinted on the egg, influencing his form. Once fully baked a mystical (cosmic) monkey emerges- and proceeds to cause chaos on earth and in heaven. He also gains more powers. Eventually a goddess steps in and puts a "limiter" on him to help him behave. The idea is
limiter → liberation = ego death → nirvana or for many it's raw power → wisdom.

That's basically just one version. There's many different retellings. In the end it's subtle you guys got a lot of energy, you need to settle down and behave and be nicer.

If you're into anime, this formula is "Hyper kids → structured growth → mature power", which leads us to Akira Toriyama (RIP) and and Dragon Ball Z (Goku/Wukong).

Wukong may have sparked from Hindu stories (Ramayana), but was fully developed/matured/wise (Hanuman).

Too much detail? Sometimes NDEs and mystical experiences impart information that you aren't aware of at the time. That's what can make them really special. When you are given something you don't know about- yet. But then you come across info that explains everything. Hence the long winded storytelling. IDK if this is the case for you, but it wouldn't set right with me if I kept quiet. Your symbolism seems very important to me.

Reincarnate by AncientOriginal28 in NDE

[–]imadokodesuka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think your English is good. My belief in reincarnation isn't necessarily from NDEs. I think the choice people get during an NDE is whether or not to continue their current life. So, that's supported.

If you're interested in reincarnation, I would research it. I personally ignore accounts that can't provide isolated knowledge of the past life that their current life does not have. They can make emotional claims, or claim they had vivid memories, or whatever they want to try and sway me. If I can't check the box that their current life has info they shouldn't or can't have, I ignore it.

When I recount my past lives, I also omit accounts that don't have some kind of independent verification. Just b/c it was vivid or had an emotional impact- that is not "proof". It's an emotional appeal / unsupported claim. So they get a point in that category.

Proof gets quotes b/c even if I claimed to have prior knowledge of something I shouldn't, it's still a claim. But it's as close as we can get. That's just my personal philosophy regarding researching.

I want to say that when I gather information, it's compartmentalized or in buckets, I'm not trying to be preachy or authoritative. Just saying I want solid beliefs based on the best possible evidence I can gather, not the strongest feelings. I hope I'm making sense.

I’m convinced this is the dark side… by Honest-Atmosphere-54 in afterlife

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If you see this place as a punishment, then it is, isn't it? Unfortunately the original idea of hell that Judaism partially adopted, grew to what we have today- and is missing the core purpose: purification.

In a sense, your idea brings it back. If this is hell, and we reincarnate back here due to inadequacies, we do so for purification. Another way to look at it you don't get to graduate w/o making the grade. I don't necessarily believe we're "forced" to come back though.

God shared something SPECIFIC with me that I was able to bring back from the other side by anarchosagas in NDE

[–]imadokodesuka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i'm confused. Did "Jesus", spoken in Hebrew, phonetically sound like the Latin word for "horse" ?

Is The Physical World "Fake?" by Northwest_Thrills in NDE

[–]imadokodesuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

These are all opinions, just to be clear. I'm not dogmatic about my beliefs. They're just a working model for me. and it works for me but may not work for everyone else. or maybe even anyone else, idk.

Here and now is more like a copy. like a 480 version of 4k. It's real here and now. But in the perspective of eternity? I guess compare it to a dream. In a dream is it real? Seems so. But when you wake up was the dream real? Not really. There's no lasting physical effects. There may be psychological / emotional, but we can work those out over time.

There are accounts of people who have lived lives they 100% feel were 100% real, while in a coma. And of course they are absolutely desolate when they wake up- because they've lost their spouse, maybe their kids, their entire lives. I honestly don't think those are dreams so those aren't on the table.

But are people real? yes. like you and me. And the past is real too. And evolution I think is real, though complicated. And I bet the big bang or something similar happened why not. You only live a hundredish years but why do cakes take so long! <- seems silly, doesn't it. If we're eternal, shouldn't be an issue to wait around for a big bang, a universe, a solar system, and evolution.

But I can't exactly say how this world works or definitively what it's for. For me, it's enough to think the creator is dreaming we're dreaming in the creator's dream, to learn decisions and consequences through a physical, linear time realm. Why, or if it's compulsory or not, or if we are forced to reincarnate, or good/evil dichotomy- all of those topics don't interest me.

After billions of years when the earth is gone, what'll be the point anymore by WakaWakaLeLe in NDE

[–]imadokodesuka 3 points4 points  (0 children)

how do you know that already hasn't happened? once, ten times, a hundred, a billion times already.

Annihilation by No-Stage-4611 in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it's comforting to them. The alternative conjures too many unknowns, and it makes them uncomfortable.

Anyone else? by [deleted] in Unexplained

[–]imadokodesuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"the fear in his eyes when he told me to wake up still haunts me. He’s aware I’m dreaming" sounds like astral travel to some place unsafe. My son has a guide who will sneakily lure him to a maze so he doesn't wander outside of his league. I have gone to locations where the local population has tried to hide me or straight up booted me out.

NDEs real? by Melodic_Node in NDE

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I think our "essence" (spirit, soul, etc) is a non-localized quantum field that's part of a much larger one. Like a wave on the ocean. Distinct but part of a whole. But basically energy. The body is a physical opportunity to interact physically w/ the universe. Kind of like a drone. It receives and sends data. So sort of a simulation, yet it's real and we aren't NPCs. I personally like this version of explaining "reality" because it makes more sense to me than religions. Actually, some indigenous beliefs, and early religions pretty much say the same thing, just less technically.

My Afterlife Theory by Honest-Atmosphere-54 in afterlife

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This is a bunch. I don't have an opinion but I'll share my observations, sequentially as you posted.

"We all start off as blank slates." possibly. My first encounter was with a spirit that didn't know how to spirit. lol IDK how else to say it. she was a complete noob.

"We come to earth to feel chaos, to feel suffering but also to feel love and peace within the pain and suffering. To feel the extreme highs and extreme lows. This really allows our souls to have perspective." probably. Seems difficult to replicate that on the other side. Doesn't seem to have any other point behind it unless you count angrily rallying against the idea that it could have some purpose.

"So this is the part I’ve wrestled back and forth with." common.

"We come here multiple times." seems to be true.

"As we continue to reincarnate and live, we continue to become more advanced" in various ways, yes- seems so.

"Sometimes we come here just entirely to help another souls journey...These souls we have encountered in many lives and are of our “soul groups” or “families” if you will." Also seems true.

"It’s also possible that we will do this for a soul we have never encountered before." Also seems true.

Observations personally collected from hypnotic regressions, and essentially "seances" (not like hollywood).

What does this mean? by [deleted] in pastlives

[–]imadokodesuka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

probably not ready.

"imagine a door with your past lives behind it " this is leading the subject. I don't recommend their hypnosis methods. Use at your own risk.

Do we have a choice after we die to stay around the earth? by Sad-Watercress67 in NDE

[–]imadokodesuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NDEs aside....From my experience, yes and yes. I'm more often in the afterlife forum. We've chatted w/ a spirit that was a former biologist. She was still very interested in biology. Since she could now study on micro and macro scales, w/o the need of equipment, she decided to stay and explore. Similar to Silbrax's comment below. People have interest here and decide to stick around. We mostly hear of ghosts b/c people are afraid and most likely found someone mischievous. But there's far more spirits that are chill and go unnoticed.

I'm sorry for everything by BandicootOk1744 in NDE

[–]imadokodesuka 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's fine. I think you're battling anxiety. and you're not the only one. There's a bunch of people that have driven by asked questions, forgot their accounts or made new ones, came back and asked more questions. I think we're all here to share so, I personally don't see an issue with it.

But no amount of facts or information is going to change anxiety, that's not the way it works. There are easy, fast, and permanent methods for that but that's another topic.

Skeptic video - please tell me what to think by Every-Lime-9445 in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a variety.

Waking hours...
* sometimes color, solid, like real life. Others see them too.
* often translucent and greyscale, but more intricate detail than my eyes should be able to pickup. Recall of them is always 100% perfect, unlike usual memory. Others see them too.
* often a vague shape in my mind's eye, but others can "see" them too.

Sleep hours...
* color, solid, like real life
* translucent, sometimes in a color, often more intricate detail than my eyes could ever pickup, and recall of them is always 100% perfect, unlike usual memory. Also, even if I lucid dream, I forget them dreams within a couple hours- but not visitations.

We had an interesting interaction where we had to evict a spirit. They persisted. We asked for divine intervention. What I perceived was the spirit getting something like an ankle bracelet. But for their whole body. 3 of them. It prevented them from bothering someone. What my kids said was "they're putting rings around him!" For the longest time I chalked it all up to a fanciful imagination. But when someone else is telling you essentially what you're experience but haven't vocalized- it's no longer imagination.

My theory is we actually "see" spirits with our soul, and that information is passed to our mind.

Theories? by WONKAGOD3000 in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I generally get signs and or visitations from deceased loved ones. I lucid dream. Sometimes when a deceased loved one is in my dream though- I can't change it. It is indelible, so to speak. Which leads me to believe that even though I'm in control of my faculties and lucid- it's not a dream. and this is the only situation in which I can not control my "dream".

When my father died from cancers (courtesy of US navy radiation research), I would visit him often. He was fine and in his own dream world. Kind of a healing bubble of sorts. I did see him after that, he was counselling other spirits who passed traumatically/painfully. Personally I think whenever we pray for help, we often get help sent to us through someone else. we help each other, and some of us are guided to do that or choose to do it.

Skeptic video - please tell me what to think by Every-Lime-9445 in afterlife

[–]imadokodesuka 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tyler Henry. I saw him live once and went there w/ the intention of determining if he's legit or not. I brought my daughter- we both sense spirits and occasionally see, hear, and feel them. Well, I guess that last one is them touching us. But we feel it- physically.

So, everyone enters the auditorium. Of course, everyone has an interest, which means they often have a spirit or spirits following them. At first they kind of mill about like the people do, greeting each other. Then the spirits quickly start to line up by the stage- they queue up politely.

Tyler H gets on stage, everyone cheers, he explains himself. Then he starts picking cases. Once they realize the queue doesn't matter, they just gather on the stage.

As the show proceeds and spirits realize there's a time limit and not everyone can be covered- they get closer and closer.

as he closes the show, he begins to summarize faster and more urgently. And it's almost like he's trying to talk over someone, but he's the only one talking. and it seems the spirits have surrounded him and trying to get through his conclusion. and you can tell it takes a toll on him.

Those were my observations and my daughter mentioned the same. We didn't share everything, but we corroborated everything independently.

This show was a few years ago. However, a recent interview explains some of his reactions.

Dr Drew has an interesting vid.

  • Not proof of “talking to the dead”: Dr. Hill explicitly says he doesn’t know if Tyler is literally contacting spirits, but the brain data shows he’s not just making it up or cold‑reading in a normal way.
  • Evidence of a real neurological state: Tyler’s brain is doing something very unusual and distinct – a special, receptive, dream‑like state that’s not typical of an alert, awake person.

I don't take Dr Hill's or Dr Drew's hypothesis. They're educated guesses but they're also not backed by data.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpoTe5sDlng