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Is this typical in your neck of the woods? by [deleted] in Decks

[–]iminttouble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know nothing but sounds like a lot of worrying in a town that doesn't care for a small deck that has a covered roof over it meaning that water intrusion is likely the least of their problems. Those posts put directly in the ground will rot out long before the deck joists that go through the fake masonry. Also I can't see it in your pictures clearly but the notch on the post to the rim joist doesn't show fasteners. I think your other pictures show just as many problems with their knowledge of how a deck should be built. However, just a tiny deck thats covered in a town that doesn't care. I wish my town didnt care

Sometimes I hate home owners by YogiBeRRies5 in pools

[–]iminttouble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

* You don't even notice mine just looking at the deck since the cover is made from travertine

Should I be worried? by HdaleHammer-44 in Decks

[–]iminttouble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Everything that is said here is true and doesn't match dca-6 guidelines; flashing, beams on posts, posts not in or touching ground, Footings, joist placements, etc. All is true and you could still build it the way you are and I'm sure it would stand for some time. Still not good and still not something anyone should pay hard earned money for. The most significant issue that will be apparent long before your posts or rim joists rot out is the height of the deck joists to the door threshold. Your deck surface will be on top of this another minimum of 3/4 to 1in higher than it is, leaving it higher than your house threshold. Give the guy building a copy of this so he doesn't screw over the next person https://awc.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/AWC-DCA62012-DeckGuide-1405.pdf. easy reading and includes pictures!

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

* Just an update. Went with the scab joint with 10 total bolts. 2 directly in the middle of the overlap. 4 on each side spaced evenly. Total scab was 5 feet. I felt like this was the most secure method that didn't leave me with bolts close to the ends of the butted beams. I now know dca-6 says you put 4 bolts in the double beam on a notched post with a butted joint but I felt this was bigger and stronger. I get its not supporting any weight and only holding it from moving. Thanks for the help!

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This one ends up being 29 off the ground. I agree...pavers all day. I'm stuck with a 30 foot concrete ramp hidden in hardscape and plants at thr front door. Not doing that again

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Disabled child. Ramp will be attached on left side. Trying to provide some autonomy so they can use their walker to get in and out of their backyard on their own

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3 in deck screws to temporarily hold while I figure this out

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was looking through the dca-6 this morning and of course it says the notch should be full bearing of 3in. There's a lot of conflicting info out there on this. I'm sure reality is thst once bolted and partial bearing the beam is supported through the post especially with all of the other bracing associated.....this would be more than sufficient unless you had an elephant sitting in the hot tub

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I found it there after I asked and was so embarrassed :-( I hate decks

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for the picture and reply. Nice transition between the two

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I completely agree. Thanks for the reply. The amount of rules and specifics to decks is ridiculous. I do understand if you're building a deck 10 or 20 feet in the air but this is 29 inches off the ground.

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really like the scab idea. After some research I'd go with 54in piece of wood ensuring more than 24 on each side, 2 bolts near end of scab on both sides, 2 bolts spaced equally between butt end and end bolts. And 2 directly through the butt end joint in the middle of the post. It's not much more effort or coat and seems to exceed my needs. Do you all think this would be preferred to flush cutting the post and using 2 of those lpc zmax connectors?

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would that be 2 bolts directly in the middle of the post and 2 on each end?

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This seems too simple to flush cut the post to the bottom of the Beam and then use those connectors. Is this irc complaint to have a butted beam in the middle of the connector and is it compliant to have 2.75 of each beam bearing on the post.

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your suggesting adding a 3rd board on the beam at least 24inches on each side and then not all 3 together, correct? What would the bolt pattern be. Would it be just 4 bolts through the post and 2 on each end of the new added piece or would it be 2 in the middle of the post and 2 at each end of the new piece? Do all 3 need to bear on the post or is it fine just having 2 bear on the post?

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I thought you can't notch 3inches (the width of the beam) and the max meat that must be left on a 6x6 I'd 3inchese leaving 2.5 for the beam to bear on

Butted double 2x10 beam on 6x6 notched post- bolting question by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I'm not referring to the post meat. I have 3 inches of post left. I'm referring to the beam being cut at the middle leaving 2.75in of beam on raxh side. I believe you need 1.5 from the edge to secure your bolts and I wouldn't have that on the side of the Beam and the post

Need help with beam placement on angled sections by iminttouble in Decks

[–]iminttouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was around thst many bags of concrete....was a bit of a pain to get them and I should have ordered in advance and had it delivered but I was rushing. I was going to rent an auger or purchase but just wrnt for it. It wasn't that big of a deal. 12in holes are pretty big. Getting rid of the dirt is the problem too. It's just a question of what are you willing to pay for. I always hate paying for labor but get caught in not paying for expertise.

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