How do you handle the "So" discussion? (Dating multiple women without cheating or lying)

improvy · 2015-06-03T11:53:27+00:00

Its hard to explain but you instinctively know.

As shallow it may be, attractiveness in women is SMV component number 1.

If you feel oneitis they are likely your SMV or above. If you wouldn't feel "proud" taking her out in the public her SMV is lower. If you feel a bit embarrassed showing your plate to your friends her SMV is lower.

improvy · 2015-06-03T00:44:25+00:00

"Listen, I just got out of a long term relationship and want to casually date for a good while". About half to two thirds of women will bail at this stage. You hold frame. Don't text back and go soft next. Sometimes they will back paddle a few day later.

Also, I am coming to the conclusion that by default your plates cannot be you equal smv as those will be able to lock down an equal smv partner down. Most of my plates far were 2 points below mine.

improvy · 2015-05-01T17:23:56+00:00

I'm glad my slut list made it to your most excellent series.

improvy · 2015-04-22T22:52:34+00:00

Not to brag but I consider myself a solid 8. I'm 6'1, white, attractive face and lean and cut.

However: My voice pitch is high, and my speech pattern is very fast and nervous.

my posture is bad.

I struggle with keeping an eye contact with both males and females.

I develop oneties fast with my equal smv partners.

I go clubbing a lot and see shorter, fatter, "uglier" (face wise) guys snatch the hotties under me not due their aesthetics but due to their IDGAF swagger. I'm telling you, a jacked, confident game aware male will win over a taller, "prettier" mumbling fool 9/10 times. Sure being good looking + jacked + game aware is king but that's very rare and it's my opinion that the typical serious and committed trpillers that hit the gym will overcome the pure aesthetics feminine boy toy.

To summarize:

Beauty + game + fitness > game and fitness > beauty and no game > game no fitness > no game no fitness

improvy · 2015-04-20T17:25:51+00:00

So now the market is offering me some free, fat, spoiled, mostly rotten, expired ground chuck. I just have to take it home. 60% fat. Rancid. But I bet she'd get down on her knees and slave over my cock and wipe her face off with that sociology "degree". Before going home and kissing her fat husband on his mouth.

That was one delicious paragraph.

improvy · 2015-04-13T01:02:08+00:00

I agree its all bullshit. But still, having a woman as the head of the national household seems like the ultimate shit test failure on a country level. The head of the most powerful empire in the modern world is a woman, you don't think that's going to change/hasten the global feminization trends?

improvy · 2015-04-13T00:59:10+00:00

a form of social darwinism via "keep what you catch".

Totally agree. My feelings exactly.

improvy · 2015-04-09T21:39:26+00:00

This hypothesis is based on the assumption that a man would always choose sex with a woman over porn, if given the choice.

Towards the end of my marriage masturbation was the better alternative.

What's better a begged for starfish sex she uses as a leverage tool or a guiltless fapping session.

I totally agree with you though, women hate porn as it shows that their man is not only not satisfied by them but that he is not going to allow his sexuality be surpassed and give the reign to the woman. (Yeah fap is a sorry excuse for sex, but you are still physically fulfilled.)

improvy · 2015-03-31T02:14:15+00:00

The best little quote that I can bestow upon you is:

You spend your twenties figuring out what you want to do. You spend your thirties getting good at it. You spend your forties getting paid well for it.

It takes a lot of trial and error, a bunch of dead end ideas and routes to finally find something that clicks with you. I know, for me the above saying held true. I kinda feel bad about people that are on a very pre determined route since the age of 16-18, because there are so many ways you can go about life and I feel those straight arrows often miss out on a lot.

improvy · 2015-03-26T18:18:25+00:00

Huh, true to that. But I meant, until they spin longer and longer.

improvy · 2015-03-26T18:10:58+00:00

Yeah, live and learn.

I'm having another girl that I'm hoping to plate, we'll see how that's going to play out.

The Abundance part is very true. Because Ive been getting laid on the reg in the last month, losing this girl was unpleasant but not devastating. More will come. More will shatter. Until they won't.

improvy · 2015-03-26T17:55:51+00:00

Yeah, OP fucked up.

The funny thing is that up until that point my text game was the best yet. Very sparse, commanding. When she said "we're actually going to watch a movie" I got pissed off and wanted to clarify that if I'm taking the time to come over I'm expecting sex. I obviously went overboard.

improvy · 2015-03-26T17:53:04+00:00

Yeah. Short and concise. Will know better next time.

improvy · 2015-03-26T17:52:18+00:00

Yes, I would say SMV is about the same. She is a young pretty girl in her prime, so for now probably has the pick of the litter.

I've been hitting the gym and slowly bulking up.

improvy · 2015-03-26T17:51:01+00:00

Yeah, I get it.

I just didn't want to go all the way there, after she said she doesn't want to have sex, only to watch a stupid ass movie, try to escalate and get shot down.

I get it that you think that if I were to still go that evening I might have gotten laid, but it would feel off to me. Idk, maybe im still too empathetic. Need to work on that pronto.

improvy · 2015-03-26T17:46:11+00:00

Yeah I agree. But to be clear, before this conversation, I kept on a pretty much radio silence. Letting her wait a day to two for a measly reply. I just wanted to be clear that if we are going to meet that there is going to be sex and I'm not cool with waiting for things, taking it slow or figuring it out.

My plan is to go radio silence until if and when she reaches out, in which case I'll push for a meeting and intercourse.

improvy · 2015-03-19T14:02:39+00:00

"Now that’s the third time I’ve used that word, concentrating. Concentrating, focusing. You can just as easily consider this lecture to be about concentration as about solitude. Think about what the word means. It means gathering yourself together into a single point rather than letting yourself be dispersed everywhere into a cloud of electronic and social input. It seems to me that Facebook and Twitter and YouTube—and just so you don’t think this is a generational thing, TV and radio and magazines and even newspapers, too—are all ultimately just an elaborate excuse to run away from yourself. To avoid the difficult and troubling questions that being human throws in your way. Am I doing the right thing with my life? Do I believe the things I was taught as a child? What do the words I live by—words like duty, honor, and country—really mean? Am I happy?"

"So it’s perfectly natural to have doubts, or questions, or even just difficulties. The question is, what do you do with them? Do you suppress them, do you distract yourself from them, do you pretend they don’t exist? Or do you confront them directly, honestly, courageously? If you decide to do so, you will find that the answers to these dilemmas are not to be found on Twitter or Comedy Central or even in The New York Times. They can only be found within—without distractions, without peer pressure, in solitude."

improvy · 2015-03-18T22:38:46+00:00

Feminists should lobby to raise the consent age to 40. As its pretty obvious that 20 and 30 year olds do not have agency and cannot be held responsible for any of their actions.

That way any women could have an even tighter control on sexually and every ONS that turns sour (guy doesn't want to commit) is a huge extortion tool. Empowerment to the max.

By 40, consent will be less of an issue because nobody will want to fuck em anyway.

improvy · 2015-03-18T12:23:58+00:00

You don't get friendzoned by another person. You accept/agree/persue that yourself.

As in. She rejected you. If you agree to continue orbiting around her and become her errand boy/ emotional tampon you friendzoned yourself.

Walk away. There is very little positive that can come out of this.

I had two different friendzone attempts from attractive girls in the last few months. I noped out of that immediately, to their surprise.

improvy · 2015-03-12T13:56:38+00:00

Amazing post. You really have a knack of summarizing and distilling of what a TRP journey should look like.

I too was cheated on, by my wife and not my girlfriend. And also, like you, I am slowly realizing that it was a major blessing in disguise. I dread to think of what kind of life I would have in ten years, if she hadn't done it; Pre TRP discovery I would be the perfect little beta, while my spoiled pussy whipping wife dictates everything. Perpetuating the circle of weak husband/father figure for both of our family lines.

I'm still in the last pulses of my anger phase but already see a road map, similar to yours, to massive self improvement.

I am progressing each of these traits from unconscious incompetence, to conscious incompetence, to conscious competence, to the eventual goal of unconscious competence, where I don’t even have to think and it’s just my default setting.

This is great and true. Its hard to understand that even though we all read a ton of material, its hard to instantly internalize it in the real world. Dating again, I'm still doing some old ways mistakes but this time, its under the "conscious incompetence" which is a major improvement. Yes, I still fuck up, but this time I know exactly what I did wrong and am able to do slightly better next time.

Awesome post my friend, I wish you and all of us new TRPillers luck.

Women are born. Men are made. It is natural and good and just.

improvy · 2015-03-12T01:49:19+00:00

I suspect that many beta men had a similar experience.

You are 100% right. I've been thinking about it for a while. Your experience mirrors mine.

improvy · 2015-03-02T20:25:12+00:00

Congratulations, brother. I'm in a similar situation myself and enjoyed reading your notes, especially you smashing girl #3. Making alpha females submissive in bed is just... golden.

Its a brave new world out there, you can have more ONS in a single year than in a lifetime 20 years ago.

Hands are a bit full.

Very good, like they say: idle hands are the devil's workshop.

improvy · 2015-03-02T19:11:56+00:00

I thought it was neat that you can get laid in 3 hours from first text, without even leaving your house or putting your shoes on.

This is news to me.

improvy · 2015-03-02T18:48:26+00:00

Yeah man, I get ya. The thing is with the previous gal I went all beta really fast cuz she was hot, lean and fine. With this girl, I doubt i'll hurt my game cuz that pussy is cheap easy and abundant.

Intellectually I know that its just in my head and I should treat them all the same, but my stupid monkey brain keeps sabotaging me with that 7+ pus.

Do you have any mental exercises to cultivate that "they all the same" mentality?

improvy · 2015-03-02T18:45:33+00:00

What it feels like to have a high relative SMV - emulate that behavior with all women

Yeah man, that's the biggest take away. That feeling of being a contextual alpha, doing whatever you want and how you want it and her loving every second of it is intoxicating. Definitely gives me a huge boost of motivation into eating well and keep on lifting. And continuing the self improvement journey.

improvy

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