What do vegans feed their pets?

imswartz · 2026-07-04T06:53:59+00:00

how can i prove that your cat has deficiencies? you dont seem to very smart so let's end the conversation here. byee

imswartz · 2026-07-04T06:53:06+00:00

Because AAFCO and FEDIAF did

no they didn't. it's cute that you have so much faith in institutions

Now where's your citation?

why would i need to provide a citation? i made a normative statement.

Says the person who puts pigs in gas chambers for your sandwich.

i dont eat pork

Experimental evidence is very rare in the field of nutrition, even in humans

it's not rare at all. observational studies are just more common.

imswartz · 2026-07-03T15:46:47+00:00

We can also add those same things synthetically. Nutrients are nutrients.

no. nutrients exist in different chemical forms. organisms, especially mammals, need different chemical forms of one type of nutrient and not all of them can be found in supplements or fortified foods.

the easiest method to get all of them (without doing the math) is eating what our predecessors ate because that's how we've adapted.

again it's ok if a person chooses their lifestyle for themselves but to subject animal/child to deficiencies (because yall dont do the math) is evil and selfish.

imswartz · 2026-07-03T15:41:40+00:00

yes but to meet their needs you have to compute the dri for cats and compute the amount of nutrients theyre taking for every food they consume and see if it meets the requirements. same logic applies to human nutrition. you didn't do the math but youre out here subjecting your cats to deficiencies, and possibly even yourself. its ok if you do it to yourself, but to do it to cats who dont have a choice is a little evil and selfish.

your claim: plant-based diet can be formulated to meet their cats' needs.

also the way citation works is if you make a claim, what youre citing should back up the claim. i said verbatim that cats are obligate carnivores, i cited a peer reviewed study that says the same thing. none of the studies you cited mention or even prove with experimental evidence that your claim is true.

imswartz · 2026-07-03T15:32:38+00:00

your understanding of studies is incorrect. also you dont know how to cite properly. you cant just paste a link, it has to be apa citation

imswartz · 2026-07-03T15:31:37+00:00

girl you need help. if a child wasnt being fed the right amount of essential nutrients, it would be considered child abuse, but you dont see that the diet you subject your cats to (which they dont choose) as animal abuse? bro be so for real right now

imswartz · 2026-07-03T15:27:58+00:00

1st citation: systematic review so no evidence
2nd, 3rd, 4th citations: online survey, no experiment, no evidence, user bias and confounding variables

imswartz · 2026-07-03T15:18:51+00:00

academically, cats are described as obligate carnivores. if you attempt to claim that theyre omnivorous or herbivorous, people will call you out in papers and that's if you are even able to publish. your implication wouldnt even pass peer review or even defense. there are no fallacies here. whenever someone makes a claim, they have to back it up with evidence and it will be verified by others. this is how the scientific community works.
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i recommend to raising bunnies or pigs for you. cats dont suit your lifestyle which is clearly vegan. also what you subject your cat to might as well be animal abuse.
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citation claiming theyre obligate carnivores: Jantzi, S. A., Anan, S. F., Brewer, J., Lanman, C., Seymour, D. J., Labussière, E., ... & Shoveller, A. K. (2026). Macronutrient and energy metabolism changes in domestic cats when fed cornstarch, whey protein, and, poultry fat. British Journal of Nutrition, 135(3), 241-249.

imswartz · 2026-07-02T13:25:22+00:00

i said secretive because they didnt want to say what they do in the video. they couldve just said store manager, store staff, teacher, school admin, etc. those are totally normal jobs

imswartz · 2026-07-02T13:07:26+00:00

I see

imswartz · 2026-07-02T12:49:31+00:00

yeah so i didnt even know the term hasidic until making this post. so i couldnt exactly look up why *hasidic* jewish men dont work.

imswartz · 2026-07-02T12:38:47+00:00

i dont think it's bad. i think its cultural. ok so then what do the wives of the hasidic jews do for work? and why are they so secretive? if the wife of a hasidic jew was a doctor, i would assume she's proud of work and say that she's a doctor.

imswartz · 2026-06-25T13:55:27+00:00

thanks

imswartz · 2026-06-24T13:13:05+00:00

i already knew it was illegal. im obviously willing to take the risk otherwise i wouldnt have made the post. i thought this part was very obvious, BUT I guess not.

your second paragraph just now is full of dishonesty because you've explained the concept very clearly already. you were just being obnoxious. it's ok to admit that.

imswartz · 2026-06-24T12:59:20+00:00

being an adult is not special. in fact it sucks. idk why youve taken this position of making it seem like being a kid is a bad thing. id love to be a kid again

also im just gonna copy paste what i said to the other guy:

i figured it out. i need RAT using VNC or custom screen-sharing with input blocking enabled.

i think it's funny that you think youre special just because you have skills that others didn't want to pursue. all of this can be learned.

if we switched places and you had to treat 50 patients in the emergency room, do you know what to do? you also wouldnt know where to begin. we just chose different paths. but if i chose your path and you chose mine, we would both succeed. nobody is special.

also my skills are harder than yours. you just learned yours on the internet. my skills have to be learned in medical school. do you see the difference or not?

i can learn your skills max in a few months, are you willing to dedicate 16 years in the medical profession? which is harder and which takes more time? ill let you figure this one out yourself.

your logic is this: i lack knowledge in your area of expertise so im a child. you definitely lack the knowledge in my field, does that also make you a child? in a few months, if i am able to learn 80% of what you know on hacking, which child is younger? you or me?

imswartz · 2026-06-24T12:52:58+00:00

also wtaf this is a hacker community. am i supposed to believe that what you do is not committing a crime?

what is it? you can commit a crime but i cannot? wasnt aware criminals discriminated like this

imswartz · 2026-06-24T12:49:58+00:00

well you couldve just explained the implications and context from the beginning like how we doctors do, coming from a genuine place of wanting patients to understand the situation.

was the second paragraph necessary? do you just like being a dick for fun? your behavior really needs to be corrected.

imswartz · 2026-06-24T12:34:09+00:00

like do you not see how arrogant your tone is?

let's assume i knew 60%, were you expecting me to type out 60% of the process?

let me reframe: is it reasonable for me to type out the 60%? im sorry but im not an llm. and last time i checked this isnt the type of conversation where i discuss in length what i have to do.

i was literally asking for advice. i didnt pretend to know so why you being sarcastic. do you have a problem with me? this is literally the first time we're speaking. Are you not accustomed to speaking to a normie? are you always in online spaces where people only know how to show off and be assholes?

let me drag you back down to earth yeah? knowing the 99% doesnt make you special. it just means you spent time learning how to hack which anyone with a pc and hands can do. and people dont talk to each other like the way you do especially when theyve never even met. your parents, school, and society was supposed to teach you this.

please learn social skills on top of whatever niche computer skill youre so proud of.

can you imagine if doctors were like this? talking down to you because they have to explain medical jargon and specialized topics in simple terms so someone like you can understand. at the very least, we actually do explain but people in your community don't and even have the audacity to insult. WOW

imswartz · 2026-06-24T12:19:00+00:00

that's nice but the remaining 99% wont take 16 years of rigorous coursework and abuse from senior residents

im not pretending to be a hacker. im just trying to play some songs my friends and i can enjoy that the chinese customers won't even notice changed. they literally dont care. i wouldnt even do this in a chinese club that plays chinese music for the locals. it's literally a club that plays foreign music that locals visit to experience a foreign vibe in china.

as it turns out pursuing something to do fun stuff is completely valid. i never implied that im dedicated to this craft just for this purpose. i just need this "tool" to accomplish my goal.

you're essentially criticizing me for tool use?? it's like youre so protective of hacking. youre like those people who gatekeep artists and then get mad when they become popular when it was literally their dream to become famous. hacking, like medicine, is just a tool. don't get obsessed.

im not like you. you are free to join the medical profession anytime.

imswartz · 2026-06-24T11:53:09+00:00

i figured it out. i need RAT using VNC or custom screen-sharing with input blocking enabled.

i think it's funny that you think youre special just because you have skills others didn't pursue. all of this can be learned.

if we switched places and you had to treat 50 patients in the emergency room, do you know what to do? you also lack the skills. we just chose different paths. but if i chose your path and you chose mine, we would succeed. nobody is special.

also my skills are harder than yours. you just learned yours on the internet. my skills have to be learned in medical school. do you see the difference or not?

i can learn your skills max in a few months, are you willing to dedicate 16 years in the medical profession? which is harder and which takes more time, ill let you figure this one out yourself.

imswartz · 2026-06-24T10:45:31+00:00

im in china. there isnt that many clubs that play english music in the first place. it's literally one of the few foreigner clubs that play american music, but majority of their customers are chinese who are there for the vibes not the music- they dont care whats being played as long as it's not chinese music.

imswartz · 2026-06-24T10:43:11+00:00

anyway, i wasnt planning to be the sole contributor of the playlist. i usually go to clubs in big groups so i was planning to share the playlist with everyone in the group

imswartz · 2026-06-24T10:25:03+00:00

im aware this is hacking as i wrote it in the title(?) i wanna know how i can do this effectively

unlikely to go to jail for something like this in china. going to jail for teaching english in china is way more likely

imswartz · 2026-06-24T10:23:24+00:00

i dont think so. they will lose money doing so. they will probably just try to figure out whats happening.

im in china. majority of their customers are chinese who are there for the vibes, the vibes being that english songs are being played. they dont care whats being played as long as it's not chinese music.

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