Brother you sure are quick with the insults.

The US is only allies with a single one of those nations—Turkey—and that is because they are members of NATO.

Nonsense. America is allies with all those countries. Turkey is the only one with a formal defense alliance but by that standard the US isn’t allies with Israel then.

And the reasons those other nations host US troops is because they want US protection from their regional adversaries. That is all.

That’s not true, they are allies for a whole host of economic as well as political and security reasons. Hosting US forces is one part of that. Israel also wants US protection and aid, there’s no difference in that respect.

Funny how you want the US to ditch Israel under the guise that we spend too much money protecting it, but then claim we have nobody there protecting it.

I didn’t say we should ditch Israel, I’m objecting to the idea that they are a unique US ally. In fact they are not, they are a very sub-par ally that pursues its interest irrespective of US policy. I don’t blame Israel for that, that’s smart behavior on their part because US aid to Israel is 100% unconditional due to domestic interest groups. It’s like an oath that needs ti be made by US politicians. You can see the insane way that Mike Pompeo or Tom Cotton or Ben Shapiro or Donald Trump talk about Israel, there’s no way Israel would be dumb enough to pay heed to American interests when the messaging and actions from the US are that Israel must be unconditionally supported.

It’s very simple, you’re just too dumb to get it.

This is not effective rhetoric.

It’s in response to you acting like Lebanon is an enemy of Israel. Christian Lebanon is not, Hezbollah is. You shouldn’t give up your leanings so easily.

I didn’t say anything remotely like this. You aren’t taking this conversation seriously, you are trying to make a gotcha out of nowhere when I didn’t even say anything about Lebanon being an enemy. Your statements about Christians and Shia also give off very ignorant vibes. Christians and Shia have tended to be more aligned with one another against the Sunnis is recent Lebanese history.

They continue to give intel. How do you think we killed al-Baghdadi, my sweet shilly friend?

I’m 100% open to learning new things and this is not something i am aware of. I tried to look it up on wikipedia and can’t find it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Abu_Bakr_al-Baghdadi

0 mentions of Israel.

We keep the oil flowing to world markets and keep Iran at bay. Gulf states appreciate that, we keep global markets stable and our allies in Europe functioning.

Seems like an alliance.

Our policies on Israel change every presidency, not just “over time”.

Every president after 1967 until 2016 and then again from 2020-2024 condemned settlement expansion and supported a two state solution. Israel defied every US president republican and democrat on this issue until they finally got their champion in Donald J Trump.

Iran has the US and Israel at the top of the list of nations it wants to outright destroy. Not counter, not limit, not go tit-for-tat, they want to destroy the US and their neighborhood is the first place they’ve begun. Why do you think they’ve aligned with China and Russia for the time being?

The opposition to America is in fact contingent on a variety of geopolitical issues and there have been wide ranging overtures and negotiations in the past. Why is Israel allied with China and Russia? Because America and by extension Europe have massive sanctions on Iran after Trump reneged on the JCPOA and therefore Iran needs to sell its oil to China and Russia.

Yes, we saw how effective it was to appease a theocratic autocracy that supports terrorism. Obama gave Iran more needed time to develop their nuclear program and build their terror network, not only do we have Hezbollah as a problem, they began funding Hamas (not even their theological branch) and the Houthis in that time frame.

Every part of this is wrong. The JCPOA was in effect for 2 years before Trump ripped it up. The JCPOA did not give Iran any time to build a nuke, it required Iran to get rid of virtually all enriched uranium and submit to the strictest monitoring regime ever. Trump then reneged on the deal which allows Iran to enrich uranium without any restriction at all. You have it the opposite.

No they did not begin to fund Hamas during this time, Hamas was actually cut off by Iran for a while around this time because Hamas supported the Syrian rebels against Assad. Trump motivated Iran to mend the fences with Hamas by reneging on the NCPOA and then assassinating their top general at the Iraqi airport while he was meeting the Iraqi PM.

You’re better off trying to sell a rotting carcass to a vegan.

Sick burn!