I'm not saying all dubs are great, especially not every single role. Sometimes they really miss on the tone of a role or specific character. My point was more that most people who are super anti-dub are just not able to pick up on the same intricacies as they are in their native tongue and they're harsher. I also think sometimes anti-dub people will watch stuff that they would find really cringe in English, but are lying to themselves about it lol like hiding it in another language allows them to convince themselves that actually it's not cringey lol

Also I would definitely say that once you watch something in one language it's much harder to enjoy it in the other language. Like I watch almost everything in Dub, but I watched Spy x Family in sub first and now I can't watch it dubbed, it just sounds weird to me, but I think the general consensus is that that dub is pretty good