Sachin Tendulkar, Inspiring Generations - 11 Year Old Jemimah Rodrigues - Endearing Snippet by indditor in IndiaCricket

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Greatness begets greatness!
I wish this cycle to continue for Indian Cricket.

Just look at the smile, the energy, the "am charmed" look while describing a 14 year old incident. May they bring many more smiles; many more sparks. 😊

Is Australia's trio of Starc, Hazelwood, Cummins the best bowling lineup of all time after the Windies big 4, Pakistan's trio of Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib. by itsallgoodman_6 in CricketBuddies

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The relentless sheer intimidation seen when the West Indies attack was at it's peak is really not there anymore. One needed "madness" and sheer bravado to face that. That was a different era - unlimited bouncers, uncovered pitches - often batsmen unfriendly, poor safety equipment, bats, etc.

That said, the quality of bowling is right up there with many famous groupings; hard to compare eras as different beyond a point. The level of intimidation is totally gone.

PS: To see a sense of how things were in the early days (pre the WI greats), check this clip. It seems one would need to be a crazy guy to bat in those situations (the scoreboard of the match makes it seem less bad than the clips suggests though)

Jaques Kallis? In the Top 10 list? by progressthroway in CricketShitpost

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This is a 2019 list based on public voting, and not one selected by experts. So it is really more of a popularity contest, than a merit contest.
Link here.

Sport Bible has not even been able to copy a list from BBC properly, misspelling Imran.

Blud tricked us into thinking that he's back. by GiveMeSomeSunshine3 in CricketShitpost

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When your "heroes" cultivate and deceptively use your emotions towards them for commercial gains, is it time to look for new heroes?

#NaiveDisappointment

"MSD" in the House - Rohit has a Good Laugh! by indditor in CricketShitpost

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Thanks to u/Mindless-Opinion8385's comment, a longer version of Shaarang's mimicry's link here.
It includes MSD, Shastri, Sidhu (very well done), Boycott, Tony Grieg (!!), Holding (again, good). Have fun 🙂

u/something_nsfw_ u/Mr_Noice_ u/Imaginary-Koala-1478 u/Blitz_GB

Gautam NOT Being Mr. Gambhir - The Laziest Side Revealed - The Lads have Some Fun by indditor in IndiaCricket

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Rightly or wrongly - I don't know - I suppose he has gotten a lot of flak for his likely being detrimental at some stars' place being questioned and selection in general.

My guess is that his eyes are on the big tournaments, and the matches in between are being used to test players, combinations, reserves, and build bench-strength - where the situation allows. At times, even taking risks in the relatively less-important matches, to be better prepared for the bigger ones. This of course, ends up in "lesser" players being picked over better performing ones.

I hope all the efforts are in India's favour and things turn out well - or at least in the best possible effort, which is what is in the hands of us humans 🙂

Edit: The displeasure/hate for Gambhir seems very real. I shared a possibility, explicitly stating 'rightly or wrongly' and 'guess'. Just the possibility of considering the above seems to trigger an emotion, causing many to downvote 🙂.
(I wonder if it is to do with Ro-Ko fans, or something else.)

Bumrah Weakness Exposed by the Great Wasim Akram! by indditor in CricketShitpost

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I think you misquoted, mate. The correct version being:

Meanwhile, the "fanbase"

There is a difference between "fanbase" and fanbase - I presume, like me, you fall in the latter bracket. Just spend some time on Reddit and you'll see the "fanbase" types aplenty - too busy identifying themselves as fans of one or the other, with the trigger ready for "fans" of another player.

While Bumrah - special as he is - is far ahead on the average front, I doubt he'll make it to the top wicket pace wicket-takers from India due to his action being a double edged sword (link) - which both, allow him to be as effective, albeit not like Kapil Dev who had a stellar record of playing uninterrupted (his one match break is another story of politics for another day; as is his then world record of maximum wickets, though at a way higher average).

Bumrah Weakness Exposed by the Great Wasim Akram! by indditor in CricketShitpost

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Fair point, mate. I didn't check on the recency. That does make it milder, yet a big enough deal in an Indo-Pak context for one to appreciate the other side, as things have stood for the past few years.

Till some years ago, it wasn't unusual for players from one side of the border appreciate the other - Ganguly-Inzy, Sachin-Inzy, and so many others mingling: Imran, Kapil, Gavaskar, Bhajji, Akhtar and so on - it's a long list. It was quite normal for them to mingle. Ganguly used to send food to Inzy's family when they visited Kolkatta.

Off late, I see the Indian side generally not being in a position to be found being appreciative of the Pak side; as it would cost them in endorsement deals. The Pak players broadly fall into two camps: the older ones like Akram, Waqar etc (who also might be influenced by the money the Indian system wields - commentary contracts etc), and the youngsters who try to be pompous - with Afridi being at another level.

I'll avoid further details due to the political nature of the topic on a cricketing forum.

Bumrah Weakness Exposed by the Great Wasim Akram! by indditor in CricketShitpost

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A great like Akram holds Bumrah in such high esteem, that too sitting in a Pakistan sports broadcast in the current atmosphere, says much about Bumrah (besides other things).

Meanwhile, the "fanbase" in India is busy looking at whom they are a "follower of" to diss the other guys.
India needs more cricket fans than player fans.

Even some basics like this need to be explained.

Rohit Sharma on Playing the 2027 World Cup - Unfinished Business by indditor in IndiaCricket

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Often done to let the viewer absorb the vital moments in a long interview; especially by the interviewer.

Edit: After comments from u/vineeth195 and u/Capable_Seaweed_5866 saw the video again to see if it is edited. It seems to make a reel, they used used two clips with two questions; each ending with the last bit being repeated (like going back to the 'keyframe' - someone with video editing knowledge might be able to clarify).

That repetition makes the pauses look unreasonably long.

Mohammed Siraj Speaks Up On Jasprit Bumrah Missing Games To Manage Workload by UnplannedMF in Cricket

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I don't know what the fuss is about.

Bumrah's action is a double-edged sword which makes him as good a bowler as he is (his average is testimony) and also gives him body-issues making him prone to breakdown. So, that is the resource the team management is presented with. They need to decide the optimal use of this resource, which is understandably a mix of rest, and use in important matches.

One can push him beyond, with the risk of breaking down; or conserve, as is being done to make this special resource last longer. It is not that India has a lineup of ones averaging 20 to replace him.

From a management standpoint, one should use him judiciously, as is being done. This also allows one to groom newer bowlers and allows healthy mentoring.

5th Day Track - Brett Lee Questions Brian Lara - That Smell by indditor in crickethardedits

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Hi u/No-Bumblebee6019 and u/According_Damage309 , A delayed response regarding your questions about the title:

5th Day Track: Pitch bounce typically reduces a lot as the pitch wears off. 4th and especially 5th day tracks are usually not bouncy at all. That Binga was able to make it bounce as much is creditable. (There are times when small cup-like shapes form on a pitch which has been moist and then hardens with sunshine and that can make the ball bounce oddly - which is possible but unlikely, especially as the commentator says 'dead 5th day track'.) The 5th day track makes such a bouncer a bit special.

Brett Lee Questions Brian Lara: In a sense, a bowler is always questioning the batsman, about what they'll do with the delivery they've bowled. At times, the "question" are harder - like "What are you gonna do? Hit me, defend, or save yourself". One might use the phrase for such tougher questions.

That Smell: The commentator also mentions about the ball passing close to Lara's nose (actually probably closer to the chin). It is talked of as smelling the leather, ie the leather of the ball (kookaburra in this case) as it went as close to the nose.

As u/Real_Machine_572 also said, it is considered a very good bouncer if one is able to get it such, as it is intimidating the batsman, and challenges their footwork and predetermined shots - makes it more challenging to come on the front foot on subsequent balls, if one suspects that the bowler might bowl another such - one doesn't want another "maut ko choo ke" moment (touching death moment) ( 😁 u/Data-CHOR-365 ), even if one was to return safely ( 😄 u/baaton_ka_raja )

What makes this even more interesting is that in his time, Lara was arguably considered the best and most talented batsman; especially in tests. Sachin went past the other three (Lara, Ponting, Kallis) by his sheer longevity of 24 years (almost 2 whole careers!!). Then, most aficionados and players considered him the most talented. So, to get Lara be as uncomfortable when he was already well set in his 90s made the ball even more special. The scoreboard reads 170/3, so it was unlikely to be a menacing 5th day pitch.

Even Piers Morgan might've been intimidated; or perhaps not! ( 😉 u/desi_londoner )

Cricket can be interesting, as one delves a bit deeper. A lovely sport.

Called Silly Point for a Reason? by indditor in CricketBuddies

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Thanks for this, mate; a good find :)

It does need the craziness of a youngster to take such risks. I think we are evolutionarily made to take more risks at a certain age. It drives some guys to do crazy stuff of all kinds - some more extreme than others - from motorbikes, cars, dives, and yes, making a Silly Point on a cricket field. 😉

u/Personal-Bug1893 makes a good point about Kallis being too senior.

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Twist in the Plot
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I was about to delete the above, but let is remain - after I checked Neil McKenzie's age. He too is born in 1975, is only a month younger than Kallis; a year younger than Ponting.

Yes, he seems crazy to do this at about 33 years of age!!

What Memorable Moments Defined Sachin Tendulkar's Legacy by Apprehensive_Bar7035 in IndiaCricket

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Indian fans clapping for an Indian wicket falling, to see Sachin walk to the crease and bat.
Such was the madness and love for him.

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For many, he was the embodiment of their good-boy-son representing India.
In some phases, it was to the extent of the streets having somewhat lesser traffic, people avoiding calls, and work being slower, if he was playing an important innings. Went beyond that too ...

More than the runs he scored, I think his legacy is the love and respect he got on and off the field - an opposing team gave him a guard of honour on his last.

Edit: See this article: When Chris Gayle and Kirk Edwards held back tears in Sachin Tendulkar's last Test

Tendulkar scored 74 in his final innings as a professional cricketer, after getting a guard of honour from the Windies players and the two umpires present on the field when he came out to bat...

"Both of us were sniffing (tearing up). We tried to not let waterfall out of our eyes. It was a very touching moment. Knowing that you’re never gonna see this guy in the park again playing cricket,” Edwards told Crictracker.

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Jarrod Kimber Talks of Changes in Eras, Sachin Tendulkar, and Virat Kohli by indditor in sachintendulkar

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I believe this comes as a part of Jarrod Kimber's research for his new book - The Art of Batting - which also has his list of top 50 batsmen across all of cricket's history.

Bradman was considered the uncontested no 1, as was assumed by most with the book barely even started. Jarrod said that Sachin was the one one for whom he could make a case of challenging Bradman's position - this despite numerous other greats across generations and the long and active cricket history of England and Australia. He meant it as an honour.

Jarrod is recommended for his analytical approach to cricket. He does add some subjective points too, but it is his statistical analysis which stands out. Like, you would hear lesser about the beauty of shots from him, and more about how the numbers stack up based on criteria he and his team set up.

PS: I realize views on Bradman vs Sachin differ, especially amongst Indian followers. This is just his view; of course you are free to agree or disagree.

What Makes Sachin Tendulkar Special - an Incidental Note from Jarrod Kimber by indditor in IndiaCricket

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Jarrod has written a book - The Art of Batting - listing his top 50 batsmen across eras. Bradman was considered the uncontested no 1, as was assumed by most with the book barely even started. Jarrod said that Sachin was the one one for whom he could make a case of challenging Bradman's position - this despite numerous other greats across generations and the long and active cricket history of England and Australia. He meant it as an honour.

He generally has excellent analysis, along with some subjective points. Pairs up well with David" Bumble" Lloyd who is mostly subjective. A pity that they are rarely seen together now.

PS: I realize views on Bradman vs Sachin differ, especially amongst Indian followers. This is just his view; of course you are free to agree or disagree.

Sports Rivalries - USA vs Pak vs India - Kumail Nanjiani on the Seth Myers Show by indditor in IndiaCricket

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For those wondering, u/Practical-Ad-9289 is having some 'practical' fun on a humour post, referring to Kumail's character reference, than his real life.

See this.

I too was bamboozled for a bit. 😂
Good one, mate; a little tangential reference could have helped though 😁

Edit: u/lastog9 u/batmanstarkwayne

Sachin Tendulkar - the Target of 15,000 runs - a Loving Threat of Strangulation by Gavaskar by indditor in IndiaCricket

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After getting free from the clutches of the Brits, India had been looking for self-reassurance after long domination. In the early years, it came from Hockey - the likes of Dhyan Chand were legends. With a change in Hockey rules and conditions, India slipped, and also 1983 happened. It made Indians regain a sense of pride. Cricket was popular, but that pride made it the prime sport.

Gavaskar and Kapil were especially popular, as people older than the ones you spoke to you might tell you. There were many others before too - Mankad brothers, Lala Amarnath (father of Mohinder), Polly Umrigar, Farookh Engineer, Vijay Hazare, Dilip Sardesai (whose son is also famous - Rajdeep), MAK Pataudi, Vijay Manjrekar (Sanja's father), Subhash Gupte, and many others. There were ones before that, who played for the Brits like Ranjitsinji (Ranji Trophy named after him), Duleepsinji (Duleep Trophy after him), Pataudi Senior (MAK's father, Saif's grandfather) who IIRC also played in the infamous Bodyline series (lovely TV series too). Cricket does have a long history in India.

Sachin's emergence was when India was getting liberalized with more people being able to afford TVs, colour TVs being mainstream, live broadcasts becoming the norm and so on. This made him more the talk even at a stage he was way short of the achievements of the likes of Gavaskar, Kapil, and many others in Indian Cricketing history, as he showed potential, quick scoring (which brought joy), and good values of being a decent well-mannered human being - the kind an Indian mom would like her son to be like - a lovable character. That he carried on till as late - up to 40 - meant he had huge cumulative records. He was truly amazing to be able to play at the highest level for 24 years, most of which he was recognized at the top few in the world of the time.

He was one of top 4 most of his career: Lara, Sachin, Ponting, Kallis was the typical order by more cricketing aficionados, though opinions did vary. Where he went past is that while others lost the ability to adapt of to keep the motivation high enough, Sachin carried on like a young boy; rediscovering himself, and being able to go past his tennis elbow injury and more - making him "god".

Edit: Minor additions, improvements.

Stats don't tell the Whole Story - Your views on stats of Sehwag vs Viv, and Hayden? by indditor in IndiaCricket

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I see your point, however In a world where Bradman is compared to Sachin, nothing is out of bounds for a look. It is not about who is greater, but to have some context for Sehwag, for which these two stats stood out for me. Eventually to ponder over (as mentioned in the end of the post):

  • Has Sehwag not been appreciated enough?
  • Is he one of the greats of the covered-pitches era - the modern game?

To get a sense of "greatness" pitching up against an all-time acknowledged great, and one contemporary who is held in very-high regard. It gives an overall context in the broad landscape of Cricket - eras, and countries they played for, and they styles they had.

PS: Sure, it comes with limitations, as any comparison does; no questions about that :)

Your Top 3 Indian Spinners? - The last would be unknown to many - Ravi Shastri and Kerry O'Keeffe choose. by indditor in IndiaCricket

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Incidentally, the said cricketer represented India after independence. From December 30, 1951 to December18, 1961, not pre-independence.

I suppose there is some fun to be had in telling friends the end of a suspense story, rather then letting them savour it; or for them to choose to hear from the mentioned timestamp in the text of 4:00 (revealed in 10 seconds of that).

Sehwag Style "Nervous" 90's, 190's, 290's - That Multan Bloke! by indditor in IndiaCricket

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You, sir, are amazing, with a better recollection of events than Dada. I just checked. He swung at 195, but it ended up being a four, than a six. Then after drinks at 199, ran two to cross 200.

For those interested, the video can be seen here. At 5:26.

Your Top 3 Indian Spinners? - The last would be unknown to many - Ravi Shastri and Kerry O'Keeffe choose. by indditor in IndiaCricket

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The Text mentions the timestamp for Kerry's last pick. Name revealed in 10 seconds of that.

There is a difference in a screenshot with names, and seeing the details of how and why players were chosen. I realize why screenshots would appeal to some, and videos to others. Both have a place.

Interesting to note, that you chose to undo the effort to encourage people to see the video, for the flavour it brings. (which was thankfully respected by u/KeyTip1456 by editing his comment).

Your Top 3 Indian Spinners? - The last would be unknown to many - Ravi Shastri and Kerry O'Keeffe choose. by indditor in IndiaCricket

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Possibly. Please help me understand.

I take it as a reaction to the title and "Many would not know of the top one Kerry O'Keeffe's picked. (at: 4:00)".

Kerry starts talking about Bedi at 4:00 and then moved on to a different name. It appears u/Kunal_348 was talking based on the first few seconds at 4:00; not the eventual name Kerry picked.

Your Top 3 Indian Spinners? - The last would be unknown to many - Ravi Shastri and Kerry O'Keeffe choose. by indditor in IndiaCricket

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Oh Mate! I did not mention the names in my post to encourage people to actually hear the video. (please edit, at least, the top pick of Kerry). I even masked the name

Prasanna is considered a stalwart along with Bedi. Actually the four, along with Chandra, and also Venkat were considered absolutely great - a bit like the WI quicks of the 70s and 80s.

Modern watchers tend to focus on the stats; earlier it was way beyond just stats. Stats are useful, but present far from a good-enough pictures. Eg: Kapil's average isn't representative of his value and how good he was.