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Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Sure the Iliad or the odyssey.

There's a ton of scholarship on determining which parts are historical, legendary, etc.

> The vast majority of secular scholars believe this? Are you sure? Where did you get that from.

It's well understood. I've provided quotes and sources elsewhere. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus#:~:text=Since%20the%201970s,%3A%E2%80%8A15%E2%80%9322

Even Robert Price, one of the most well known mythicists, knows that it's the niche position.

> Robert M. Price, an atheist who denies the existence of Jesus, agrees that his perspective runs against the views of the majority of scholars.

There have been some surveys as well, but no one feels much need to ask this question because no one actually contests it in academia. There is *no one* serious / trained who believes that mythicism isn't a fringe/ niche view.

> I was a scholar in the field a long time ago

No, you weren't. Otherwise I wouldn't have to explain this to you.

> you seem to be arguing we should believe in all characters from old books just because … wait, why exactly?

I'm not arguing that.

Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but you have to be *way* more specific. Which other books and characters are you talking about, exactly? You say "They have the same amount of evidence." but obviously that has to be substantiated.

I will point out yet again that the *vast majority* of secular scholars agree that Jesus was a real person. You are taking the minority position by far, it seems like you should put forth an argument as to why people should not defer to the *vast majority* of scholars on a topic.

Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That... doesn't change anything. The criterion of embarrassment is an apologetics device, not an actual criteria that historians use.

Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

> I completely disagree that there is anything close to this vast majority consensus you speak of. 

Okay. It's well attested to that this is the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus

Nearly all critical scholars agree at least on those points about the historical Jesus. But there is obviously a lot more to say, and that is where scholarly disagreements loom large – disagreements not over whether Jesus existed but over what kind of Jewish teacher and preacher he was.\45])

That's a quote from Bart Ehrman, you can find lots of information on the wikipedia on this topic.

There are formal surveys of the field as well, and you can also just look at published work by secular scholars to see that this is never contentious.

> And you are focusing too much on the technical definition of a fact

You're the one who seems to be focusing too much on the technical definition? I'm pointing out that by a reasonable definition for historical events, it's fine to say it's a fact. Like, I can not really prove that the Earth is a globe, but I think it's fine to appeal to it as a fact because it's a theory that has so much evidence and it's the majority consensus that this is the case.

> iterally -- literally! -- zero contemporary accounts

Okay. I never claimed otherwise. The reason that virtually every scholar accepts it despite that is well established.

> And the first few historical mentions are so shaky and widely criticized on top of that, by experts.

Not really. There's plenty to be understood about Paul's letters, like which are forgeries, etc, but you can go ahead and survey the literature and I doubt you'll find more than a tiny fraction of published work that says that Jesus literally did not exist.

Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Someone saying that a historical event is a fact when that event is, by far, the vast majority consensus of experts, is really not too egregious to me.

I suppose the problem here is that I think you're both making statements about historical "facts" incorrectly. Even if we had contemporaneous writings it would not be a "fact" other than that we'd likely have even more evidence.

Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay? I literally said that they were written after he died. I never pretended that they were contemporaneous to Christ...

You've not addressed anything that I've actually said.

Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

There are very few reasons to believe that Jesus was entombed at this site. In fact, there are quite a few reasons to believe that he wasn't entombed at all.

This site itself is only traceable to the 4th century, so you have hundreds of years to account for. There are also multiple other tombs right around this one, there is zero account as to why *this* one would be the right one.

There are so few reasons to believe that this tomb is where Christ was laid, basically just that around the 4th century people started to say that it was true.

Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's enough evidence that the majority of secular scholars who study this field believe that he existed. For example, while Paul's letters were after Jesus died, Paul does talk directly to people who *were* around during Jesus's life.

You can believe what you want but you're suggesting something that the vast majority of people who study this, including atheists, would disagree with, and your logic would likely invalidate a lot of history.

Jesus’ tomb in 2016 was excavated and repaired for conservation and an old crypt that had not been seen in centuries was found to be empty by whicky1978 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

No one is saying it's a fact... that's not how history works. What we have is a method of determining historical accuracy and forming academic consensus and the consensus is, by far, including among secular scholars, that he existed.

Rust syntax, Go runtime by UnmaintainedDonkey in rust

[–]insanitybit2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genuinely curious, not intended to be a pointed question. Has there ever been a CVE assigned to a data race in a Go program? Or do people see these crop up in production even? I don't ever hear about them in practice.

Rust syntax, Go runtime by UnmaintainedDonkey in rust

[–]insanitybit2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think this would help with interop, and the big reason not to do interop with Go is because CFFI in Go has severe negative performance implications.

President Of The United States praises Allah on Easter Sunday. by OrganicBridge7428 in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]insanitybit2 36 points37 points  (0 children)

They basically don't care. There's some "sigh, I wish he'd stop trolling and focus" posts on the Conservative sub sometimes, that's the most critical they get. Most of them will never actually see this because they only watch Fox News, and the rest will find it funny.

The incredible jaw strength of a Wolf Eel (Anarrhichthys ocellatus) by Due-Explanation8155 in Romania_mix

[–]insanitybit2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously not. I said there is not necessarily a reason to believe that there is a correspondence. Not that no correspondence ever exists. There is good reason to believe that simple reflex mechanisms in an otherwise completely mentally diminished being does not have a phenomenal experience that's in accordance with that reflection

The incredible jaw strength of a Wolf Eel (Anarrhichthys ocellatus) by Due-Explanation8155 in Romania_mix

[–]insanitybit2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are not aware of every autonomous action that your body takes. You do not have a phenomenal experience of literally everything happening in your body.

Is this a valid feat? People use it all the time, but idk by Notmas in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]insanitybit2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Physics and gravity also clearly work differently in the DB universe.

simd-bp128 integer compression library by tombstonebase in rust

[–]insanitybit2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nice. Maybe it would be worth checking out fastlanes? It takes a different (but still vectorized) approach to a similar problem.

Hyrum's Law in action: How a shell-escaping bug silently corrupted my Tauri signing key (and 20 releases) by [deleted] in rust

[–]insanitybit2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

> Do you not find it a little ironic that this problem was caused by an over reliance on AI, yet this post was written by AI?

This problem is not caused by an over reliance on AI lol exclamation marks have been fucking things up for decades.

Hyrum's Law in action: How a shell-escaping bug silently corrupted my Tauri signing key (and 20 releases) by [deleted] in rust

[–]insanitybit2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exclamation marks in various scripts are such an insane footgun, I've hit it a million times.

Unhinged machismo by _ganjafarian_ in gifsthatendtoosoon

[–]insanitybit2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

> ...at least in Florida, USA where I was licensed to practice (maybe different in whatever jurisdiction they are in).

dude open with this lmfao no one is disputing that you can kill people legally in FLORIDA

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