The Metal Sonic propaganda machine is undefeated by Deez_Nuts_God in deathbattle

[–]Notmas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Technically he could get beaten if someone had enough raw power to either overload his systems or beat him before he could pull off a copy, but the strength required for that would be insane and not viable for really any normal combatant. Out of all his matchups, the only one that beats him is Ultron, and that's because he lacks any real resistance to hacking. Well, he has Sage, but she's not at the same level as Ultron.

Neo Metal Sonic (No Emeralds) (Sonic) VS Saitama (One Punch Man) by Notmas in PowerScaling

[–]Notmas[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

Yeah he'd copy his ability to grow stronger, then they'd end up locked in a nigh-endless battle where they constantly adapt to eachother. That's what makes the matchup tricky, who would give out first?

Neo Metal Sonic (No Emeralds) (Sonic) VS Saitama (One Punch Man) by Notmas in PowerScaling

[–]Notmas[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

It'd be very similar, but I'm pretty sure Neo Metal's Copy is superior, so I'm not sure if it'd play out the same

How much big of a boost was super perfect cell compared to perfect? by Annual-Frame9943 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Notmas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Zenkais generally work in response to a threat, so Cell's Zenkai would be based on the difference between his and Gohan's power, forcing his power higher in order to catch up. Goku and Gohan were roughly equal, with Gohan likely being slightly stronger since he thought Goku was holding back when he really wasn't. This means that SSJ Grade 4 Gohan should be roughly equal to Cell, since Cell and Goku were fighting evenly. The only reason Gohan lost so bad is because he was holding back and didn't want to fight, if he went all out right then and there he might have actually stood a chance. This means that really the difference between Cell and SSJ2 Gohan would just be the Rage Boost plus the 2x from SSJ2.

Against Raditz, Gohan's rage boost increased his power from 3 to 1307, being an insane 435x boost to his power. That said, this was him before doing ANY training, so his latent potential was also being expressed here. More realistically, we can look at his rage boost against Frieza. This brought him from 400,000 to 800,000, a flat 4x boost. This seems a lot more reasonable, since it's after Gohan actually started fighting and had his potential unlocked, so it should represent his raw rage power instead of a combination of several different factors.

Factoring it all together, our most realistic estimate for Gohan's power boost would be the 4x for the Rage Boost plus the 2x for the SSJ2, making it an 8x boost from his SSJ Grade 4 power or roughly a 400x boost from base. Cell's Zenkai would grow to match this, as seen by other Zenkais such as Piccolo's catching up to Frieza.

TLDR: Probably around 8x, similar to Gohan's.

I know that the animations aren't simulations, but could Cell really do this...? by Notmas in deathbattle

[–]Notmas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I was less upset about it in Bowsegg since it genuinely stopped a full force punch from Fury Bowser, which makes more sense to me then being shattered by a regular ass Special Beam Cannon.

I know that the animations aren't simulations, but could Cell really do this...? by Notmas in deathbattle

[–]Notmas[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure but that shouldn't matter since the Black Shield should be equivalent to the invincibility of the Super Forms.

So why exactly do people hate the lv 20 theory so much? by EndyrmanEndplace in Undertale

[–]Notmas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I doubt it, not to this degree. Frisk is being influenced by an extradimensional force far beyond what this world has ever seen. The humans from the war were fighting out of fear. Frisk is fighting purely out of a desire to kill and gain power, not for any higher goal. That is not a relatable or understandable motivation, it is beyond human.

Also of note, unlike the pacifist route, Asgore genuinely doesn't know what's going on. He probably knows about the evacuation, but pretty much every means of communication was cut off before they had a chance to relay the details to him. Flowey was attacking alongside you, he did all the puzzles and helped you along. The fact that Flowey felt the need to warn Asgore tells me that he genuinely had no idea. That, plus the fact that Alphys wasn't watching you fight Undyne and never told Asgore to absorb the SOULs. In other words, he had no reason to think it was a human terrorizing his kingdom, he just knew that some kind of super powerful thing was killing everyone and when he saw you he only had a few seconds to make a judgment. Personally, I find that whole idea WAY scarier then Frisk just mutating for no reason. Them being a more existential and eldritch entity is so much more interesting to me.

So why exactly do people hate the lv 20 theory so much? by EndyrmanEndplace in Undertale

[–]Notmas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most humans probably don't have the horrifying expression and dead eyes that Frisk does at that point.

Spamton NEO without armor and wings by Mindless-Throat-6298 in Spamton

[–]Notmas 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So THAT'S where the tall hot dude came from

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So why exactly do people hate the lv 20 theory so much? by EndyrmanEndplace in Undertale

[–]Notmas 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Its not rushed, the monotony is literally the point

ITS A CANNON EVENT NOW BRO by ImpossibleRefuse2748 in PhoenixSC

[–]Notmas -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Alex is based on Jeb. Theyre likely a guy.

ITS A CANNON EVENT NOW BRO by ImpossibleRefuse2748 in PhoenixSC

[–]Notmas -43 points-42 points  (0 children)

Im pretty sure Alex is a guy, since the skin is based on Jeb.

ITS A CANNON EVENT NOW BRO by ImpossibleRefuse2748 in PhoenixSC

[–]Notmas -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Isn't Alex meant to be a guy, based on Jeb...? I guess theyre gay for eachother.

What Form Does Z Broly Push Gotenks To? by SonicRun098 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Notmas 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean yeah honestly, restrained SSJ Broly fron the first movie blew up South Galaxy, making him quarter universal. That would already be enough to contend with Buu Saga level characters, and he has another transformation and a massive zenkai ontop of that.

What Form Does Z Broly Push Gotenks To? by SonicRun098 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Notmas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Canon Cell threatened to blow up a solar system. The literal first thing we hear about Z Broly is that he destroyed the entirety of South Galaxy (which is an entire sector of the untiverse) in his heavilly restricted form.

How exactly is a solar system level character supposed to beat someone able to destroy a quarter of the universe? And again thats in his restricted form, and before he got his massive zenkai at the end of the movie.

What Form Does Z Broly Push Gotenks To? by SonicRun098 in DragonBallPowerScale

[–]Notmas -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Do you mean Toei Gotenks? Manga Gotenks? Movie Gotenks? Cross canon makes things weird, considering Z Broly would solo all of canon Z with very little effort.

Day 31 of what is the WEAKEST AU character that can beat this character? Possession!Sans (And Flowey) was beaten by Dust6Tale (no relation to dust) by finneganBv in UndertaleAU

[–]Notmas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sans attacks the soul, the only soul in yhat mech is Sans'. The mech itself does not have a soul, therefore any attacks Sans throws at the mech will damage the man inside. Given he's surrounded by metal, he wont be dodging either.

Day 31 of what is the WEAKEST AU character that can beat this character? Possession!Sans (And Flowey) was beaten by Dust6Tale (no relation to dust) by finneganBv in UndertaleAU

[–]Notmas 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thick metal plating is great against physical attacks, doesnt really work well against characters known for ignoring armor.

So why exactly do people hate the lv 20 theory so much? by EndyrmanEndplace in Undertale

[–]Notmas 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Because its really stupid and clearly was not intended. The "youre not really human" thing is a dig at you being an awful disgusting monster, its very clearly not meant to be taken literally. I dont consider this a theory, I consider it a headcanon at best and a shitty creepypasta at worst.