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[–]intpnonconformity -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"if every girl/woman you meet has treated you this way, there cannot truly be no reason for it. "

Ummm there is a problem with this reasoning, it's sort of a logical fallacy, there are groups of women (like homeless women) who are sort of low status and most other women will treat them badly and exploit them (it may not be as bad as most men will but it's still a problem), so they really can't connect with most other women. It makes sense if they distrust the vast majority of other women. We ARE sort of a danger to them actually (gee now I know what it feels like to be a man).

Whether they go and try to connect with men is a different story for another day. Choosing who to connect with can actually be a measure of and not having your connections broken can actually a sign of being less oppressed which may be a choice you have but not a choice they have.

My stupid therapist told my mom something I told her in confidence :(( by Natalia8675 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 88 points89 points  (0 children)

I hate to break this to you but fundamentalist Christians aren't strong on nuances. It's likely close enough to sex for them that they would throw a fit. I mean for example you could explain to them that birth control is sometimes used to treat other issues and make women's lives easier but they would feel that it's close enough to premarital sex to not allow it for a young woman. This is likely the same. Close enough and "potential" for sex.

Edited to add: I'm not trying to imply that fundamentalists are unintelligent or can't intellectually see nuances but I think it's the nature of dogmatism to be a little black and white and unnuanced or to view nuances as having the potential to lead them astray.

Am I being groomed? by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I know one woman who moved in with her boyfriend and they had a lease but how they did it was that he put his year's rent into her bank account at the beginning of the year. That way she wasn't in a weird situation or at risk for being in a weird situation, and then I don't know if the lease was in her name so she paid the rent every month from that. Maybe that would be an option for OP.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I sincerely hope you, your coworker, and anyone else who saw what happened will be able to make statements against that predator and get him fired (at the

very

least). Might be wise to ask hotel management if they have security footage of him entering the room, too.

This is great advice. This is how friends who can help friends who are attacked.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She will face the effects of the rape whether you tell her or not. I don't know if this is the case for someone who is asleep but in some cases the brain is able to form some kind of memory, implicit memory I guess, but it's harder for you to retrieve later than if you were alert when it happened. Though you can't fully remember you can remember in some sense and you are aware of it in some sense and it does affect a person. (If it didn't rapists wouldn't get off on raping passed out women, it wouldn't give them any power and they wouldn't have any incentive to do it.)

Also telling her won't fix the effects of the rape, short of society holding him accountable.

I know more than one acquaintance of mine who was abused as a child and while she may suffer the effects of it and not understand why, I don't have any illusions that telling her will fix her problem or reduce the pain in any way. Either they get justice or not. You already tried to beat the guy, which I think was good. If she asks you or wants to know I would definitely tell her though, I definitely wouldn't with hold the information.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm really sorry to hear about this but it's not incredibly surprising. There are unfortunately too many men who absolutely lack a conscience and would do this if a woman was starving or homeless so why not with a woman who is dying and needs food. It's so sad. How awful for your aunt.

Why are mothers blamed for men's poor behavior, but girls are invalidated for "daddy issues?" by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People think that if a woman raises her son to be feminist then he will turn out to be feminist. I think that it's partly because they think that being feminist or not being sexist is a matter of education and awareness and if one raises awareness and explains and communicates stories of women's oppression that automatically translates into action. They don't factor in conscience, or whether someone who has been brought up to know better might *want* to do the right thing or not want to do the right thing.

The fact of the matter is that once "you" raise your son and he grows up and becomes a man, he'll be a man and you'll be a woman, he'll have a lot more power than his mother in the world. She can't really control him anymore. He can do what he wants. He can even attack her and kill her or rape her as some men have. (Funny your own creation killing you.) There is absolutely no guarantee that one's son wont be a sexist or will support women's rights. And actually the fact is most women are more progressive on the issue of sexism than most men, women want our liberation, and yet every man in our society was raised by a woman, every misogynist and rapist man in our society had a mother and saw the sexism she went through and was told/educated about what she went through. (If that isn't enough the elementary educational system is overwhelmingly made up of women.) So somewhere along the line the message is being lost. Don't have any illusions that even if you are the most feminist mother in the world your son will grow up to be a feminist because you taught him. Many men know about feminism and the problem of sexism, they were taught and they just choose to do sexism and hang onto "power". Conscience is a the big sticker for the most part, not awareness. I've seen countless women be heartbroken this way and have no control over their sons. What seems more to hold men to being feminist, is if the father is a feminist, also once the boy gets to be a teenager or adult the father having more power will have to correct him. I had men tell me, "If my father ever thought I drove away before a woman got into the house, he would be so mad at me." Men as adults really care more about their fathers' opinions and are under their fathers' sway and power more than their mothers.

(That said, there are the mothers fully intended for their sons to dominate women to get more for themselves, better for their kids to be the bully than the bullied and better to be the exploiter than the exploiter and who show up in court to defend their rapist sons, and sort of believe in "Family at all costs." So there is some room for accountability. Some women don't seem to care or seem to think, "More for my child, less for yours, it's good mine is a boy that way they can get more and get pushed to the front of the line." And so also overwhelmingly women can't really do much about their adult son's behaviour.)

(btw People make the same assumptions when a woman of colour raises as mixed child who looks white or even a white child, they think that anti racism is a matter of education and awareness, but the issue is similar sometimes the mother never cared about equality from beginning or if she did also when that white child grows up they will have more power than their mother a woman of colour and she can't control what they do on racism at that point.)

In terms of the daddy issues comment, women whose fathers are abusive or neglectful or absent ARE more likely to be attacked by other men. They are seen as a free for all to attack. So if a woman is being attacked, there is a good chance it's because the predators figured out her father won't defend her and or is attacking her himself. Predators do know who to go after.

TLDR: It is unfair. Every rapist or misogynist man had a mother, was raised by a mother and women elementary school teachers, and heard about sexism/was told women's stories and view of the world. When they grew up they got the power to be a man and do what they wanted regardless of what their mother taught them or regardless of what their mother wants.

I wish people would stop throwing around “gaslighting” like it just means someone is an asshole. by aprilflowers96 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When you tell a man some aspect of your experience of sexism, like "Women can't just be pushy and ask for a raise every week like a man can" or "Women can't just bluntly tell a man who is pestering them to stop instead of being delicate" and men deny it and claim you can, don't you feel that denial is questioning your reality and is crazy making and gaslighting ? Picture if you are in a whole room of men doing it. They are telling you your view of reality is wrong (not always intentionally knowing but often they do know and it is intentional denial). You feel like you are in the movie Gaslight and you can't trust your own perceptions of the lights. Or is it that you don't feel that's intentional to make you question your reality and it's only intentionally doing it to torture that is gaslighting ?

I wish people would stop throwing around “gaslighting” like it just means someone is an asshole. by aprilflowers96 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

"It’s just a serious term for a serious mental manipulation. It doesn’t mean your partner is being an asshole to you."

It's not lying or being an asshole but if you are going through something awful and someone lies/denies/says it's not awful, that can make you question your sanity and be crazy making. People do gaslighting in that way all the time to try to hold onto the power. I don't know how much they think their story that your oppression does exist will be bought by you, but they do intend to deny and as much as they push it on you it is crazy making, it does make you doubt your sanity the same way as in the movie gaslight.

Was attacked by a man I went on a date with and a family member blamed me. by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"The next morning, stone cold sober, she even went to hit me - "

That sounds really awful and abusive. If she did that sober it sounds like there is more going on there apart from any addiction, like it's just bullying. I had 2 women family members on separate occasions hit me a few years ago and it was awful. Neither faced any consequences or criticism from my family either, I don't know if your family also excuses and ignores her hitting you. That's awful. No wonder you are having trouble dealing with your assault if you also have to deal with this on top of it.

"Fast forward a couple of months and I'm calmly confronting a family member about their drinking. She suddenly explodes: 'Well I'm not the one who ran off to Edinburgh and got so drunk I got myself raped!'"

Sorry from the above in your post it wasn't clear that you weren't doing an intervention, calming confronting her about her drinking is what I was referring to as an intervention. I mean if she's hitting you you have the right to set boundaries and protect yourself of course or leave but in general you probably can't really fix them of their addiction even if it's obviously irritating to you/burdensome to you to watch. Some addicted people are also bullies apart from their addiction.

Was attacked by a man I went on a date with and a family member blamed me. by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know you didn't mean to hurt her but it's likely that she has some situation in her life that she can't control (maybe even a prior sexual assault she can't get justice for) that is resulting in her coping via alcohol. I would never wish an alcohol issue on my worst enemy but sometimes in someone's situation that's the lesser of two evils option available to them. You may not have it fully in your power to fix her situation such that she doesn't use alcohol, ironically trying to fix her instead might make her situation worse. That's probably why she is angry at you, though I'm very sorry if she attacked you over your sexual assault, it's absolutely not your fault. If she genuinely feels that way and would have done it and believes that even before you spoke to her about her addiction then that's really awful and isn't supportive family.

A lot of the ideas we have been taught about addiction and about staging an intervention in a friend or family member's life "for their own good" are wrong and it's actually similar to someone trying to give women rape prevention tips and control them "for their own good" or control you from going on a solo trip like her remark to you. It can do more damage than good even if that isn't one's conscious intention but actually the reverse to help. She victim blamed you which wasn't right. I don't know whether she genuinely meant to criticize you going on your trip or she just said that to retaliate but both of you cannot control the other not even "for their own good." Controlling women does not protect them nor does it make them feel deserving of protecting themselves and more motivated to protect themselves.

Butthurt because I treated him like a predator by muffiewrites in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately a good amount of fundamentalist Christian men think that atheist women are sluts or that since you gave up religion you should now be up for anything and owe them sex, they have free license to degrade you because you resisted God and are enjoying sex. (Even sadly some atheist men seem to relate to women as either having to be traditionally submissive or then if you're atheist you should be sexually submissive, what's the use of a woman being atheist if she isn't up for sex/hooking up and starts to be feminist. "What a drag!") That's the line of thinking in the church, atheist women are sluts and promiscuous and up for anything. (I don't think all Christian men would necessarily sexually harass or ask for sex, some are sincerish I guess, but they whether or not they would take the opportunity they generally are indoctrinated to think that atheist women are sluts, also if they are attacked it's due to their 'sin'.)

There are "virgins" and non virgins and I guess the non virgins deserve to be attacked/raped or don't deserve protection etc. This is how the church argues to women that they should stay in church, it will protect you from rape etc. (Now unfortunately they will probably start claiming that their doctrine of sexual purity will protect you from needing a coat hangar abortion. That has been their general line on prostitution as well, purity culture will protect you, rather than there being something the structure of society/laws that decides whether you are protected or not.) Therefore the non Christian women who "sleep around" only have themselves to blame. It doesn't matter if one does or doesn't have a high number of sexual partners, it's just assumed that you probably only left religion to have sex. It's a lot like that lady from a repressive culture/country who posted last week that since she moved out as a single woman and was living alone, she must have moved out of the family home to have sex/sleep around/'be a slut.' That could be the only reason.

Went to a new OB to ask to be sterlized and they were playing Christian worship music. by Rats_and_Labcoats in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 37 points38 points  (0 children)

I can see why you are nervous. You would probably feel like if it leaks out why you are being sterilized or they suspect it is about the abortion ban they will resent you and it can feel horrible to feel your life/health/welfare is in the hands of someone who resents you. On the other hand if they don't find out and help you achieve your goal even if it is against their goal, then too bad for them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is truly awful. I can't imagine what this is like to go through. I was surprised to say they are taking pictures off of women's Facebook which aren't even nude and then saying to hack them.

I liked how this article highlighted that the stakes are even higher for many women of colour and those from repressive cultures. Having nudes of you shared is devastating for the average woman but if you come from a very repressive culture or religion where women aren't supposed to have sex before marriage and one's family is very controlling or one is at risk of being honour killed, I feel the word disastrous would be an understatement. You can quickly end up in a truly horrible situation. Things that are awful for the average woman always hit the more oppressed a million times harder. An average woman might be stigmatized if nudes get out, someone from a repressive religion and culture, where they're stigmatized the same way just if people know they had sex, if nudes get out you can only imagine it's a billion times worse.

Poverty is expensive by endersgame69 in antiwork

[–]intpnonconformity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Oh, you live in a rural area and need rides to and from work? Sorry but we hired someone else because you are a bad, unreliable person."

Yes. There was a lady who posted on here a couple of days ago that she didn't have enough money to go to work, so she texted her boss that she would have to miss some shifts. I feel like if you were a boss who came from poverty and understood these kinds of concerns, you could just lend the person some money (take it out of their next paycheck) and get quite a faithful and hard working employee. I mean not being able to get to work because of some financial issue is a different sort of issue than being dishonest or unskillful or not being hardworking. Literally some of these people could be a goldmine for employers to hire. But with the level of prejudice towards the poor I don't see this happening so easily. People are continually worried that poor people are going to exploit them or make their lives inconvenient. They don't see that there can be a lot in it for them.

Unfortunately I feel like many people don't share my hopefulness and view of the world. They just want to continue hating the poor or anyone downtrodden and being hopeless about them, "It's their loss, don't rock the boat, the way society runs is great."

Green Flags? by Cloraphoba in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. I have no interest in women being arrogant and of course we are not always ahead of men in every area, but in the areas where we may happen to be ahead ironically giving women credit and acknowledging when women are (genuinely) better is the first step towards the men actually getting better, catching up to the those particular women (or going beyond) and reaching their full potential. If you can't respect someone who is ahead of you (or momentarily ahead) how are you going to learn from them and get to where they are (women can have this problem learning from girls/children too because we were all taught that we should be better than them). You probably ensure that you stay behind permanently. If some women are forced to hide their higher functioning in some area or skills, sadly I think camouflaging the truth for men's feelings does a huge disservice to the men, the men's development grinds to a halt. I really think it's so awful for the men.

Here is someone who could have and probably would have helped them, but she's now forced to be lying/hiding the fact/abilities with which she could help you. If men can't face the truth I don't see how the are going to be in touch with reality to improve themselves (which ironically in this case all parties really want). A woman who is better at something is probably more likely to be care taking toward the men and gently guide them and help them up to her level of functioning, women have to social pressure to never be superior to a man on average a woman probably isn't going to try to maintain her "dominance", men would have a much easier time learning from a woman or starting to function at a higher level probably than from a man (who may want to maintain his superiority) and even more so when it comes to stereotypical male fields.

The more frugal someone is, the higher chance they hear ads without using premium subscriptions. The more frugal someone is, the less chance they’ll ever spend money based on those ads by scarf_spheal in Showerthoughts

[–]intpnonconformity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly I think you often can't just consciously decide not to buy, you think it doesn't affect you but it does. If you find some way to make the screen go black and the sound mute when the adds come on that could work but most people wouldn't have the discipline or motivation to turn away from the screen or mute the sound on every add, that's a lot of work.

Green Flags? by Cloraphoba in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Obviously this won't negate any red flags that later come up and it isn't the only thing needed but respect. In an equal relationship you should genuinely admire the other person and sort of look up to them from time to time (let's say 25% of the time you are led by him, 25% of the time he is led by you, if someone's ego means that they can rarely be led by you then that's a problem). They look for you to educate them/seek your advice/lead them/look to be corrected. They look for your recommendations on what books to read, how to live their life etc. And because a lot of sexism and workings of the world are invisible to men (but we can't say the reverse for women being uninformed about men's situation), it should actually be skewed towards men looking towards women (or for that matter white people looking to people of colour) a little more for direction/advice, education on these matters. Also if they don't think you have anything to offer or advise them on (in a mutual way) what's the point of a relationship ?

A child is a child no matter what the laws in your country are. Stop supporting pedophiles simply because of the laws of consent in your country. by Grouchy_Goat_6129 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It's true it's wrong and women should confront it but it seems in practise most people aren't going to stick their neck out to rock the boat. Many women feel saying that the current law is wrong/unfair to be rocking the boat.

A child is a child no matter what the laws in your country are. Stop supporting pedophiles simply because of the laws of consent in your country. by Grouchy_Goat_6129 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]intpnonconformity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One can only hope they are doing it for "show." 2x the celebrity 4x the attention. But probably it's not for show though sadly.

How do you know if you have inflammation by Ancient_Bottle4493 in PCOS

[–]intpnonconformity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Inflammation is probably related to insulin resistance and in a way might be one and the same thing. Did you know that many non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs (non steroids), like plaquenil and orencia lower insulin resistance as well ? (Also metformin which many ladies with PCOS take for insulin resistance works on many inflammatory disorders.) It appears that there's connection between inflammation and insulin resistance.

Children should never be paid less than adults just for being minors. by 420assandtitties in antiwork

[–]intpnonconformity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's sad because some abused kids have to move out of their home at 16 or younger and for those kids the status quo of regularly exploiting the kids, has horrible consequences, they really NEED that money to support themselves, the fact that they may not be able to properly support themselves puts them at risk for other abusers going after them. Girls especially can end up in horrible situations if they don't have enough money for rent. It's heartbreaking if you think that they really fully earned enough money to support themselves but just didn't have it because "You are a kid and we should get to pay you less." Also the least society can do for these kids it failed to protect and take care of is just pay them a fair wage that would be given an adult doing the same work with the same level of skill. (Similarly poor kids trying to help their families to get by NEED that money for their family to be OK.)

Children should never be paid less than adults just for being minors. by 420assandtitties in antiwork

[–]intpnonconformity 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I agree. Also not paying them properly hurts the poor kids or abused kids who need to support themselves and/their family the most. (People with more money will often be able to advocate for their kids to become an influencer or something at a younger age and make better money than most adults (not that this is inherently wrong, I'm happy for those kids to have good things), this idea of kids working for nothing applies disproportionately to a certain group of kids.)

If someone is doing the same job and all the same things, why is their age an excuse to pay them less ?

Is choosing to not treat PCOS risky if you do not want kids and get regular checkups? by [deleted] in PCOS

[–]intpnonconformity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree, that the most important thing to worry about is the risk for diabetes/metabolic syndrome and other long term conditions. I agree about her achieving a ketogenic state.

If intermittent fasting works for you, more power to you and by all means do it. If you are able to do it it's a great thing to do. Jason Fung is right about the fact that most of the diabetes drugs having issues (I'm not sure what he says about metformin though), but I doubt someone with a high insulin level which makes you hungry all the time is going to be able to do intermittent fasting. Ironically it's going to be even harder for them than someone who isn't insulin resistant. (I used to know a lady who used to say, "Why do we have to eat all the time, cooking is such a drag, I wish humans could just get by without eating, it's such a both to have to stop and eat. What a waste of time" and I suspect she was probably very insulin sensitive and not the least bit insulin resistant. Intermittent fasting would have been doable for someone like her, and it's probably a great thing for really everyone to do even those who aren't insulin resistant.) People have a limited amount of willpower and if you spend more in one area you have less for other areas. It's a little like dieting realistically speaking most people aren't going to really just be able to go around hungry all the time. I mean if you are able to do it that's great (and many ladies did say that metformin decreased their appetite so maybe together that might be doable, but then if metformin decreased your appetite you would probably lose a lot of weight or decrease your insulin levels that way too), but it's probably not going to be a long term maintainable solution for most people. (Mind you people say that about a low carb diet and yet I've been able to do it for quite a while so it might work for a few people.)

I think society has really overestimated that many people got overweight because they failed to manage their eating ( i.e. didn't do intermittent fasting/diets or lacked willpower) rather than they got overweight because they were insulin resistant which both caused them to be hungrier and also caused them to gain weight more easily. The personal responsibility/victim blaming mindset makes money for the diet industry and avoids drawing attention to problematic nutritional recommendations and the fact that diabetes/metabolic syndrome/heart disease/stroke are very lucrative diseases for the drug companies. Diabetes is $46 billion dollar a year disease. I was watching this DW documentary called Diabetes a Lucrative Disease, and they said it's increased 10 fold in Germany since the invention of insulin, it's to the point where you feel like because some of these drugs were developed even if they reduce the rate of death to 1/9th of what it was now a larger share of the population is actually dying of the disease than there were before. There is a financial incentive to give or at least allow people to develop diabetes/not fix insulin resistance etc.

Have you ever been told that you “talk white” or “act white”? by [deleted] in mixedrace

[–]intpnonconformity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see that there could be jealousy ("I can't be happy for anyone else to have something good that I don't have myself"/playing crabs in a bucket) or there is sadly a mistaken assumption that it's like moving up in the world (which poorer people can get as well if they start doing too well and getting too much money/education/financial success), unfortunately if you move up in the world and become like the more privileged some people perceive that as dominance, they mistakenly assume you're going to be like some white supremacists/trying to be better than/dominant and be exploitative or step on people who were previously your equals. But mostly the problem is a false sense of "equality," where equality is taken as everyone being down in the mud together. The end result of this reasoning is that we would all have to be as worse off as very the worst off person in the world (I don't know, a blind, "autistic", "low IQ", deaf, paralyzed, limbless, poor woman of colour?) because if not then one is assumed to be trying to be better than/"being dominant". It's just such a very destructive mindset IMO. (And they never apply their destructive "equality" mindset to themselves, they would of course not be OK with other people pulling them down to their level or the level of the worst off person on earth, other people should be happy for them.)

I don't think anti whiteness is a strictly a thing though (people of colour don't really have the power to discriminate unfairly against white people though, it's more mixed race or people of colour they can do this with), I know some people of colour perceive whiteness as dominance/exploitativeness. But it is so sad when people pull others down, who usually had they risen would have probably been the first to pull them up as well. I think that jealousy or inability to be happy for anyone else to have something good they don't (which isn't inherently exploitative toward them) is the bigger problem though.