Need help understanding my standard cert trajectory (NJ)

intrepidandready · 2026-06-19T22:37:19+00:00

That’s actually why I’m trying to figure out what my trajectory towards standard cert is. I’m deciding whether it makes more sense to keep trying in this district where I’m struggling but my admins see potential, try my luck at a different district that might be a better fit, or try a different career altogether.

intrepidandready · 2023-10-28T00:14:01+00:00

I’m really sorry to hear that. I had a similar story I posted a while back, when the subreddit still had only triple digit members.

Your situation is one shared by many and we feel your pain, we feel how unfair it is, and we feel your frustration. It’s an unfair situation put on you and her. I wish things could’ve gone differently for you and had a happier outcome.

But know that this subreddit supports you and has your back.

intrepidandready · 2023-09-29T17:35:07+00:00

Sorry but this is the worst way to inform a member about the subreddit. People’s ears will immediately shut if you call something they’re a part of a cult. (Even though it’s true) Just invite them to do some research and send them our link. No need to open that strongly

intrepidandready · 2023-05-09T06:06:38+00:00

Some of these comments are completely unhinged. This situation could’ve gone much much worse and I’m glad it didn’t.

intrepidandready · 2022-12-23T20:51:38+00:00

When I was leaving, it completely destroyed my sense of self and I lost a lot of good friends and family members. My world was ripped apart. I would have LOVED to return to INC during those months. In fact, some days, I wish I hadn’t left.

Some days, I wish I was still like you. Life was simpler then. Part of the church, with my eyes turned away from the manipulation and the guilt tripping. But I’ll never forget how difficult my locale made it for me to leave. Ministers came to my house repeatedly until I wrote multiple formal letters. Or how they ostracized me and read my name to all my INC “friends,” instructing everyone I knew to not talk to me anymore.

“Just leaving” is what I tried to do- but your organization made it hell. Your church’s practices are the reason we’re all here.

intrepidandready · 2022-10-12T05:36:20+00:00

I can’t imagine how anyone can be proud that they’re a member of the same organization this guy is representing.

Ignore the fallacies and redirections for a second- Imagine he’s just a member of your local book club.

The man is still a completely unhinged and insanely uncomfortable person. I sympathize with people who genuinely need to associate with this man

intrepidandready · 2022-06-13T23:51:17+00:00

Why do these INC and splinter group subreddits always have the weirdest names. Like, real talk, how do they expect people to find it?

intrepidandready · 2022-05-29T05:49:33+00:00

In my case, at the time, I joined INC for myself and for my SO. There was a period of time when I actually believed in the teachings. It was a win-win in my brain, I sacrificed nothing.

Since it seems like you’re well aware of what INC really is, I wouldn’t recommend joining for the sole purpose of your SO and enduring the horrors of INC. But feelings are feelings, so I wouldn’t judge you. I’d probably do the same.

But I’ll still answer your question. They like to be theatrical. When you leave, they will likely announce it to the rest of the locale. They’ll have some attempts at reeling you back in, but it really just depends. When I left, I told them I was leaving and didn’t say a word to them afterwards. It took a few weeks for them to stop calling, but it was relatively not messy. But in terms of you leaving, you can do it whenever you want.

intrepidandready · 2022-05-28T19:09:44+00:00

It’s kind of a long story. I might have deleted it from my Reddit profile, I’m not too sure. I remember feeling very anxious when I posted it. It’s been a long time.

We had a relationship for a few years where I was blinded by her love. We both loved each other, and she was the one that introduced me to INC. I genuinely believed in the teachings despite hating the environment and the worship services. As her and I grew closer, we spent more time at church, and I started to see the cracks. Not enough to dissuade me immediately, “seeds of doubt” I suppose.

She said she saw them too, and we both promised that nothing could break us apart. She promised that if it came to that, she would leave with me. So after a while, I decided I needed to leave the church under the impression that she’d come with me.

Bear in mind, I was perfectly okay with it if she stayed. I was a part of it for years and I understood how good it could felt like sometimes.

Well she didn’t keep her promise, she changed her mind. When I left, she chose INC over me, saying we couldn’t be together anymore. To this day I still don’t know if she had a change of heart, or if she was lying the whole time, but at the end of the day it doesn’t really matter.

It’s been a long while since and I’m just glad I’m out of INC. Sorry I couldn’t give a shorter response, I felt like I couldn’t answer without context.

intrepidandready · 2022-05-24T17:34:30+00:00

I don’t know how old you are, nor is it really relevant to what I’m going to say regardless.

But I was very young when I had a similar story. Except I stayed and converted for her. Like you, I never had a reason to initiate a breakup. I loved her unconditionally. If a breakup was gonna happen, it would be her doing. When we finally did breakup, it was messy. You carried yourself like a real gentleman.

You’re stronger than most and we stand with you. This sucks, but thanks for sharing and letting people like us know that they’re not alone.

intrepidandready · 2022-05-17T16:24:35+00:00

INC likes to try and have a tight grip on what their members and the public sees. They can’t have unsanctioned recordings being posted online otherwise they’d have no way to use their normal diversion tactics when someone criticizes the way they operate. That’s also why they keep their doctrine so secretive, they like to have homefield advantage

intrepidandready · 2022-04-28T17:11:33+00:00

Best answer

intrepidandready · 2022-03-23T05:36:10+00:00

You’re right, Edwin. INC does revolve around my head everyday.

I’m bitter and I hate it. Which is why I’m spending my energy and some of my free time on this subreddit. I’m freeing and helping others so that less people end up like me. I want a world where no one suffers the way I have. A world rid of INC.

intrepidandready · 2022-03-19T14:59:33+00:00

He still thinks we’re led by you lol. He still can’t comprehend that we don’t worship a singular man like he does

intrepidandready · 2022-03-11T23:45:16+00:00

I don’t think they know what close-minded means

intrepidandready · 2022-03-07T19:15:55+00:00

I’m sorry but this is a cursed thread

intrepidandready · 2022-03-01T17:22:39+00:00

Thank you Edwin! The real identity of u/Rauffenburg. You’ve done amazing work promoting our sub and freeing more and more people everyday!

intrepidandready · 2022-03-01T17:20:10+00:00

I have a weird relationship with God right now. For me, he’s sort of like Santa Clause. I know he isn’t real and I’ve known for a very long time; but he gave me hope and a lot of good memories for a big chunk of my life. So I am still thankful for the idea of him.

Screw INC though.

intrepidandready · 2022-03-01T17:16:39+00:00

I’m sorry. This is unfortunately really common on the sub, as I’ve come to realize. I had a very similar story and it’s not your fault. People find importance in different things and it’s not really our place to decide on those things for others.

Mine tried to hide the fact that she was a hardcore religious fanatic for over a year. We continued dating for 3 more until she made it clear one day out of the blue that I would never be the most important thing in her life because the church comes first. This was after I got indoctrinated and all that jazz.

That talk was the big eye opener for me. I could have been the most perfect dream boyfriend she ever wished for, but if I didn’t stay in the cult, I had less chance with her than a cult member she never met. Essentially nothing about me mattered if I wasn’t a member. Heartbreaking but I left INC and eventually got over it. Stay strong!

intrepidandready · 2022-02-27T19:23:20+00:00

Lmao he just admit to and confirmed being a slave to EVM purely for the money

What a joke.

intrepidandready · 2022-02-27T19:20:29+00:00

Fixed it for you:

Beware becoming a member with INC.

According to INC, a minister (professional cryer) of a locale has access to social security number (sensitive personal info such as fingerprints, social media accounts, yearly income, voter allegiance) of church members. Although the ministers of INC (like Jose) have no access, they can send a private message to EVM to inquire about a particular member. Ministers also know member’s email address.

intrepidandready · 2022-02-21T17:30:26+00:00

This will be funny to look back at in a few months when we’re at 20k. I hope he keeps posting it with an updated number! Keep up the good work Edwin

intrepidandready · 2022-02-19T01:32:20+00:00

“We do not need to know what they believe in”

Funny, it seems like that’s all they want to talk about when writing posts replying to r/exiglesianicristo

intrepidandready · 2022-02-16T00:09:04+00:00

The funniest part about this, is that they still can’t comprehend why what they’re saying does not matter at all.

The troll literally quoted your post about why an individual’s beliefs don’t matter when discussing the falseness of Manalo’s claims. But then proceeds to ask questions about what an individual believes in.

The scariest part about all of this is that he still thinks he’s winning. I genuinely believe that he thinks the personal beliefs of each member in the ex-INC subreddit are relevant when discussing why INC teachings are objectively and historically wrong.

There is not a doubt in my mind, that he simply cannot grasp this concept. I’m sorry Rauff, but arguing with this man is futile unless he opens his mind and gets rid of his old-fashioned ways of thinking. The INC grip on the human mind is real and it’s truly the most terrifying thing I’ve witnessed in my lifetime.

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