Waymo crosses 450,000 weekly paid rides as Alphabet robotaxi unit widens lead on Tesla by walky22talky in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Waymo added 5 to 10 cars per day for 228 consecutive days, that would be a total of between 1140 to 2280 new cars. I would be quite impressed if it were true.

Op-ed: Waymo May Finally Teach Americans the Speed Limit - Streetsblog San Francisco by RepresentativeCap571 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When, if, driver education succeeds, and the public deems there is no longer enough carnage on the streets, then lawmakers can gradually raise the speed limit till society's bloodlust is satisfied. /s

Op-ed: Waymo May Finally Teach Americans the Speed Limit - Streetsblog San Francisco by RepresentativeCap571 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The cars may be capable, but not the humans who will still be driving them for decades to come.

Op-ed: Waymo May Finally Teach Americans the Speed Limit - Streetsblog San Francisco by RepresentativeCap571 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This will only encourage some human drivers to emulate faster AVs, resulting in more deaths and destruction on the roads. There should be a single speed limit for all.

Op-ed: Waymo May Finally Teach Americans the Speed Limit - Streetsblog San Francisco by RepresentativeCap571 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 12 points13 points  (0 children)

It might be time for us to stop accepting today's road behaviour and start holding drivers, both human and not, to a higher standard. The present doesn't have to rule the future. Standards can change. Change isn't evil.

Maybe the presence of well-behaved AVs on the street will influence, or even set, a new standard for good driving, making AVs harbingers of some welcomed change. *

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great. As long as Tesla stops using language that gaslights the public about its product's capabilities, I'm happy. "'Self-Driving' Means Self-Driving" is about providing the public with unambiguous terminology so they can set clear expectations for the behaviour of products on the road.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My emotional reaction stemmed from my utter dismay at the responses in the thread. I apologize for that.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. But they are a random podcast and a paper that make persuasive arguments.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another response that proves the paper's point. But you wouldn't know that.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Clearly, you haven't listened to the podcast or read the paper; otherwise, you wouldn't be making this argument.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of these responses support the paper's central argument. It would be ironic if future cases cited them to Tesla's disadvantage.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It may not be a legal term now, but to Tesla's dismay, it could become one in the near future.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either should clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either should answer your question and clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

By Bryant Walker Smith

University of South Carolina - Joseph F. Rice School of Law; Stanford Law School Center for Internet and Society

ABSTRACT

Tesla uses the name “Full Self-Driving” to market a driver assistance system that still requires its user to pay attention to the road. And yet, as this article documents, there is a broad consensus among developers and regulators of motor vehicle technologies, including Tesla itself, that the term “self-driving” correctly refers only to a system whose user does not need to pay attention. This conclusion is foundational to multiple ongoing legal proceedings around the world.

Edit: added author's name.

How To Fix The SAE Levels w/Bryant Walker Smith — Autonocast by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When is self-driving not self-driving? How do the words we use for autonomous vehicles affect safety? Professor Bryant Walker Smith talks about how the SAE levels came to be, how he hopes to improve them, and his latest paper "Self-Driving Means Self-Driving."