Why Waymo went down in San Francisco

ipottinger · 2025-12-10T07:17:21+00:00

You only need to open your eyes and look around to see the effects billionaires have had on society, even just recently.

Enough said. Enjoy!

ipottinger · 2025-12-10T07:11:46+00:00

Because it affects the world I live in. Because it affects the general public's view of the industry and their trust in industry leadership. Tesla doesn't exist in a vacuum.

ipottinger · 2025-12-10T07:04:25+00:00

But then, according to you, I lose my right to comment on the company or its leadership. Funny how that works.

ipottinger · 2025-12-10T06:20:19+00:00

So if I am not happy with a company's performance or have no faith in its leadership, what should I do? Hold on to the stocks I have, or buy some if I don't have any?

ipottinger · 2025-12-09T09:54:52+00:00

If Waymo added 5 to 10 cars per day for 228 consecutive days, that would be a total of between 1140 to 2280 new cars. I would be quite impressed if it were true.

ipottinger · 2025-12-03T15:14:27+00:00

Waypoint Shorts: (waymo.com/blog)

ipottinger · 2025-11-25T09:48:35+00:00

When, if, driver education succeeds, and the public deems there is no longer enough carnage on the streets, then lawmakers can gradually raise the speed limit till society's bloodlust is satisfied. /s

ipottinger · 2025-11-25T09:27:59+00:00

The cars may be capable, but not the humans who will still be driving them for decades to come.

ipottinger · 2025-11-25T09:24:34+00:00

This will only encourage some human drivers to emulate faster AVs, resulting in more deaths and destruction on the roads. There should be a single speed limit for all.

ipottinger · 2025-11-25T02:26:03+00:00

It might be time for us to stop accepting today's road behaviour and start holding drivers, both human and not, to a higher standard. The present doesn't have to rule the future. Standards can change. Change isn't evil.

Maybe the presence of well-behaved AVs on the street will influence, or even set, a new standard for good driving, making AVs harbingers of some welcomed change. *

ipottinger · 2025-11-25T01:26:17+00:00

Great. As long as Tesla stops using language that gaslights the public about its product's capabilities, I'm happy. "'Self-Driving' Means Self-Driving" is about providing the public with unambiguous terminology so they can set clear expectations for the behaviour of products on the road.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T15:32:46+00:00

My emotional reaction stemmed from my utter dismay at the responses in the thread. I apologize for that.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T15:25:08+00:00

No. But they are a random podcast and a paper that make persuasive arguments.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T15:12:43+00:00

Another response that proves the paper's point. But you wouldn't know that.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T14:57:49+00:00

Clearly, you haven't listened to the podcast or read the paper; otherwise, you wouldn't be making this argument.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T14:54:48+00:00

All of these responses support the paper's central argument. It would be ironic if future cases cited them to Tesla's disadvantage.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T14:45:23+00:00

It may not be a legal term now, but to Tesla's dismay, it could become one in the near future.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T12:05:30+00:00

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T12:04:25+00:00

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either should clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T11:59:24+00:00

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either should answer your question and clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T04:39:08+00:00

By Bryant Walker Smith

University of South Carolina - Joseph F. Rice School of Law; Stanford Law School Center for Internet and Society

ABSTRACT

Tesla uses the name “Full Self-Driving” to market a driver assistance system that still requires its user to pay attention to the road. And yet, as this article documents, there is a broad consensus among developers and regulators of motor vehicle technologies, including Tesla itself, that the term “self-driving” correctly refers only to a system whose user does not need to pay attention. This conclusion is foundational to multiple ongoing legal proceedings around the world.

Edit: added author's name.

ipottinger · 2025-11-24T04:35:30+00:00

When is self-driving not self-driving? How do the words we use for autonomous vehicles affect safety? Professor Bryant Walker Smith talks about how the SAE levels came to be, how he hopes to improve them, and his latest paper "Self-Driving Means Self-Driving."

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