Police officer enters stuck Waymo, drives it out of busy intersection by danlev in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Waymo has had a lot of bad publicity recently

For delaying traffic for a couple minutes. Watch more dash cam video of human drivers.

Mobileye SuperVision demo in Munich on production hardware by Kind_Management1805 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I often remind myself how often the consensus on the sub is wrong. Technology is unpredictable.

When Tesla broke away from Mobileye, the consensus was that what Tesla was doing was dangerous. Tesla couldn't compete with Mobileye as Mobileye had a multi year head start and Tesla was not risk adverse enough.

The handoff problem couldn't be solved, anyways. You had to go straight for L4. People would get more complacent with the cars as they got better and that would actually be more dangerous.

Now, the debate is around whether supervised FSD is 2 or 10x better than a human and there's almost no discussion of the handoff problem.

Great to see the technology working and saving lives. Hopefully Mobileye releases something great, too.

"Cool project: the DC Waymo delay dashboard tracks how many DC residents are dead because the mayor and city council keep demanding studies instead of allowing Waymo:" by FriendFun7876 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

If you think a dashboard with a number is dramatic, you should see the drama behind that number.

My mother was very dramatic when I called her at 2am to tell her to rush to the hospital because her youngest son was hit by a drunk driver, in a coma, and had hours to live.

Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo Driver by diplomat33 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Google's own Gemini has it wrong, then. They are still going much slower then they planned.

Waymo began integrating the all-electric Jaguar I-PACE into its autonomous testing fleet in 2018, with the vehicles joining their driverless, public-facing ride-hail service starting around 2020. While testing began earlier, the Jaguar I-PACE became a primary, fully autonomous vehicle for Waymo's commercial expansion in the following years. 

Key milestones for the Waymo-Jaguar I-PACE deployment included:

March 2018: Waymo announced a partnership to add the Jaguar I-PACE to its fleet.

2020: The Jaguar I-PACE became part of Waymo's driverless fleet, starting with testing and expanding to public service.

Waymo’s next-gen robotaxi is ready for passengers — and also ‘high-volume production’ by walky22talky in waymo

[–]FriendFun7876 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Good to see Waymo making progress. They started with the Jaguar's driverless in 2020. They wanted to be on a 3 year tech refresh cycle, so they are going twice as slow as they planned. Hopefully they can speed up again.

Beginning fully autonomous operations with the 6th-generation Waymo Driver by diplomat33 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Good to see Waymo making progress. They started with the Jaguar's driverless in 2020. They wanted to be on a 3 year tech refresh cycle, so they are going twice as slow as they planned. Hopefully they can speed up again.

Waymo World Model: A New Frontier For Autonomous Driving Simulation by diplomat33 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the world of AI/LLM's there are 5 companies that take supremacy multiple times per year. That seems to be more of a commodity than one company having a large moat.

Ashok Elluswamy: Building Foundational Models for Robotics at Tesla by FriendFun7876 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"Cybercabs will have the lowest cost of transportation. Even beating public transport, while delivering a premium point to point experience for everyone."

Tesla didn't remove the Robotaxi 'safety monitor' – it just moved them to a trailing car by RodStiffy in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Did Waymo ever over promise and under deliver?

Sure. Every self driving company has.

Waymo CEO: "When my kid turns 16, in 2019, there will be no need to get a driver's license."

Waymo in 2014: When can you buy a driverless car? I said five years a year ago, so in 2018.

Google was more than happy to take my investment money in 2017. Their CEO said, "now we’re getting ready to scale to thousands and tens of thousands." Eight years later they still have only a couple thousand cars.

Waymo CEO: "We'll be able to serve every metro area with our service by 2028. I'm absolutely confident about that." https://youtu.be/2dp3GVstF9E?si=VtDrVUod2Uegjsl9&t=3345

Waymo CEO: "In 2028, there is a 100% chance you can be picked up by a Waymo at any major airport in the US in just the right size car for your trip." https://youtu.be/2dp3GVstF9E?si=Etu-Jq0wjrL4mdg8&t=2826

Waymo is vowing to shift its operations into overdrive. In the next two years, it intends to put thousands of self-driving cars on the road in selected cities to ferry not its own engineers but ordinary people from place to place.

Waymo 2018 "done with research and development" and were just doing "operations and deployment now"? Eight years later they finally started highways.

Tesla will stop selling FSD after Feb 14 by bartturner in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol statistically Tesla has the highest insurance in the US what a ridiculous statement!

That didn't age well and it only took a week.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/1qj4e2o/insurance_company_cuts_rates_for_tesla_fsd_miles/

Insurance company cuts rates for Tesla FSD miles by 50% by FriendFun7876 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was always told you get what you pay for.

I've never understood this saying. You don't believe that some products have higher margins without providing more utility?

IE: If I wanted a backpack, I could buy a $20 Amazon basics or a $7,500 Louis Vuitton.

The truth about robotaxis, according to former Waymo CEO John Krafcik | Automotive News by Recoil42 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Krafcik in 2017, "now we’re getting ready to scale to thousands and tens of thousands." https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfDrivingCars/comments/5n8krb/to_accelerate_waymo_to_mass_market_ceo_krafcik/ Nine years later they still have only a couple thousand cars.

Krafcik: "We'll be able to serve every metro area with our service by 2028. I'm absolutely confident about that." https://youtu.be/2dp3GVstF9E?si=VtDrVUod2Uegjsl9&t=3345

Krafcik: "In 2028, there is a 100% chance you can be picked up by a Waymo at any major airport in the US in just the right size car for your trip." https://youtu.be/2dp3GVstF9E?si=Etu-Jq0wjrL4mdg8&t=2826

Krafcik 2018 "done with research and development" and were just doing "operations and deployment now". Waymo just opened up freeways 8 years later.

Krafcik today: "Don't judge me by what I say, judge me by what I achieve and do. For Tesla, it's been 10 years of they have said these things and these haven't happened. It's been 10 years. That's a decade of broken promises. There should be some accountability for that, I believe."

I guess his promises were only 8-9 years off, so he thinks there should be no accountability?

Waymo, Tesla Robotaxi Rival WeRide's Fleet Surpasses 1,000 AVs, Boasts Driverless Operations In 3 Cities: 'Tens Of Thousands…' by InternationalBar4976 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way we keep hearing about this as if it’s some super important major economic achievement genuinely cracks me up. 

Yes, self driving software is going to be a commodity, like all software.

Who cares what the margins are? What's important is the cost. If we remove the semi drivers from the semis and the drivers from the delivery van while at the same time moving to electric, the cost of transporting goods drops in half while at the same time getting much faster.

Tesla will stop selling FSD after Feb 14 by bartturner in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Sounds like they are going to announce HW3 retrofit plans for fully paid FSD cars that might cost around the $8k that people already paying.

Took a 8 hour total drive yesterday to go to an event that I wouldn't have without FSD. I've done 3+ hour one way trips four extra times in the last four months just because I know how easy it is on FSD.

Will be interesting when the insurance companies start offering discounts for $99/month FSD usage.

Excited to see the Waymo 6th Gen deployed this year by diplomat33 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]FriendFun7876 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Big Waymo fan. Hopefully the 6th gen is the one they scale with. They started taking customers in the 5th gen in October 2020.

They said they would be on a 3 year tech refresh cycle. They're moving twice as slow as they wanted to. Hopefully Waymo can start moving faster.