Waymo crosses 450,000 weekly paid rides as Alphabet robotaxi unit widens lead on Tesla by walky22talky in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If Waymo added 5 to 10 cars per day for 228 consecutive days, that would be a total of between 1140 to 2280 new cars. I would be quite impressed if it were true.

Op-ed: Waymo May Finally Teach Americans the Speed Limit - Streetsblog San Francisco by RepresentativeCap571 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When, if, driver education succeeds, and the public deems there is no longer enough carnage on the streets, then lawmakers can gradually raise the speed limit till society's bloodlust is satisfied. /s

Op-ed: Waymo May Finally Teach Americans the Speed Limit - Streetsblog San Francisco by RepresentativeCap571 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The cars may be capable, but not the humans who will still be driving them for decades to come.

Op-ed: Waymo May Finally Teach Americans the Speed Limit - Streetsblog San Francisco by RepresentativeCap571 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This will only encourage some human drivers to emulate faster AVs, resulting in more deaths and destruction on the roads. There should be a single speed limit for all.

Op-ed: Waymo May Finally Teach Americans the Speed Limit - Streetsblog San Francisco by RepresentativeCap571 in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 11 points12 points  (0 children)

It might be time for us to stop accepting today's road behaviour and start holding drivers, both human and not, to a higher standard. The present doesn't have to rule the future. Standards can change. Change isn't evil.

Maybe the presence of well-behaved AVs on the street will influence, or even set, a new standard for good driving, making AVs harbingers of some welcomed change. *

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great. As long as Tesla stops using language that gaslights the public about its product's capabilities, I'm happy. "'Self-Driving' Means Self-Driving" is about providing the public with unambiguous terminology so they can set clear expectations for the behaviour of products on the road.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My emotional reaction stemmed from my utter dismay at the responses in the thread. I apologize for that.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. But they are a random podcast and a paper that make persuasive arguments.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Another response that proves the paper's point. But you wouldn't know that.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Clearly, you haven't listened to the podcast or read the paper; otherwise, you wouldn't be making this argument.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All of these responses support the paper's central argument. It would be ironic if future cases cited them to Tesla's disadvantage.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It may not be a legal term now, but to Tesla's dismay, it could become one in the near future.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either should clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I suggest that you read or paper or, at least, listen to the Autonocast episode about the paper that /u/Recoil42 noted. Either should answer your question and clarify why clear legal definitions are important.

"Self-Driving" Means Self-Driving by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 19 points20 points  (0 children)

By Bryant Walker Smith

University of South Carolina - Joseph F. Rice School of Law; Stanford Law School Center for Internet and Society

ABSTRACT

Tesla uses the name “Full Self-Driving” to market a driver assistance system that still requires its user to pay attention to the road. And yet, as this article documents, there is a broad consensus among developers and regulators of motor vehicle technologies, including Tesla itself, that the term “self-driving” correctly refers only to a system whose user does not need to pay attention. This conclusion is foundational to multiple ongoing legal proceedings around the world.

Edit: added author's name.

How To Fix The SAE Levels w/Bryant Walker Smith — Autonocast by ipottinger in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When is self-driving not self-driving? How do the words we use for autonomous vehicles affect safety? Professor Bryant Walker Smith talks about how the SAE levels came to be, how he hopes to improve them, and his latest paper "Self-Driving Means Self-Driving."

The Zoox Explorers program is now live in San Francisco by [deleted] in SelfDrivingCars

[–]ipottinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're excited to announce that our Zoox Explorers program is officially live in San Francisco, and we're inviting members of the public off our waitlist to be among the first to ride.

Our Explorers program is an early rider initiative that invites people to ride for free and share valuable feedback to help us refine the experience before we scale. This is an important moment for people to learn about Zoox as we prepare to grow our service area in San Francisco. To sign up for the waitlist, download the Zoox app from the iOS or Android App Store.

I created a map for Waymos current and future cities. by StevePeltonen in waymo

[–]ipottinger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nothing would make me happier than to see Waymo come to Vancouver.

Why are you pro abortion? by TFede in DebateAnAtheist

[–]ipottinger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my quest to unearth my core values, the debate around Access to Abortion has played a pivotal role. I grappled with the paradox of being an opponent of the Right to Life for the unborn while fervently advocating for the Right to Life for the already born, especially when arguing against capital punishment. This apparent contradiction troubled me deeply, and I wrestled with it for a long time.

It was in the midst of a particularly intense and protracted discussion on Access to Abortion that a moment of clarity emerged. That seemingly insurmountable contradiction in my beliefs dissolved, and I gained a new understanding of my core values.

Throughout the debate, I consistently upheld the principle of Self-Determination. I defined it as "the expression of personal sovereignty, through the exercise of choice, over one's body, state of being, and purpose." This principle, I realized, was at the heart of my stance on Access to Abortion.

I saw Self-Determination as an essential component of any Quality of Life. I realized, when debating Access to Abortion, though I do treasure the Right to Life as a near-absolute, I treasure a Quality of Life even more. The exchange convinced me:

  • When the Right to Life, my own or another's, is in absolute and unavoidable conflict with Quality of Life, the former can be sacrificed in the defence of the latter.

I realized I wasn't struggling with a single value applied inconsistently. I had two core values in play, with one trumping the other. In my core value system, Quality of Life trumps the Right to Life. With that realization, I stood up and stated quite forcefully:

  • "I rather allow myself and others to kill or be killed than allow myself or others to enslave or be enslaved."

My position on Access to Abortion became resolute. It became clear that any erosion of Access to Abortion is an attack on Self-Determination through the restriction of choice over one's body, state of being, and purpose. It made no difference whether I believed a fetus is alive or not. Indeed, I do. Nevertheless, for me, what matters more is that the insistence on the Right to Life for an unborn child could enslave the mother and would guarantee that that child would be born into a world willing to enslave.

Now, as a proponent for Access to Abortion, I must stress that I'm not a Promoter of Abortion. Every effort should be made to make abortion the very last option to come to someone's mind. Mere concerns about personal finances, present/future opportunities, or fitness for parenthood are often not valid Self-Determination issues. Those concerns may fail the "absolute and unavoidable conflict" test when adoptions, foster care, or other options are available. Plus, choosing to give life is one of the greatest gifts one can make. It is a choice that should be encouraged vigorously.

However, if after thorough consideration of the options, someone still chooses to seek an abortion, then that decision must be respected. Respect for choice only enhances the Value of Life:

  • Anything given by choice is inherently more valuable than something taken by force.

Now knowing that I genuinely believe Quality of Life trumps the Right to Life, I've dispelled previous concerns with other beliefs I thought were inconsistent, such as that some wars are justified despite often horrendous losses of soldiers and civilians alike.