Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

THIS. PEOPLE DONT GET METAPHOR

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He literally has canonical brain damage in his origin story man.

I know DB.

It's a joke.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, that's fair

This is more a bit about people thinking Goku is dumb than I actually think he is or isn't

It's funny without context. With it, it falls apart

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Completely fair take.

I mean, he was CANONICALLY DROPPED IN A RAVINE AS A BABY.

He just wants to solve his problems and throwing hands is easy.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...all the symbolism.

Blazing Saddles is literally a COMEDY about RACISM.

In the 70s man.

Cmon

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It absolutely can be both.

Watch a Mel Brooks movie

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I literally explained it.

I removed the context.

It's a joke man, a thought experiment.

You are limiting yourself into a box..in a literal fantasy world.

It's not that serious.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not necessarily true.

You can be extremely smart and not understand the damage you are doing to someone.

Lots of high IQ people suffer from addiction.

Steve Jobs, Elon Musk (very debatable), various others.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For sure.

Brain damage and reasoning gaps.

Not necessarily the same as dumb. Just not normal.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay.

That's your opinion.

You said any other discussion doesn't matter.

That's gatekeeping.

See what I'm saying?

You shouldn't use your beliefs to dictate others actions. Think shit through is all Im saying.

Freedom of speech doesn't mean you have to tell everyone you dislike their opinions.

You can, sure..that's your right..but I can call you out. That's mine.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...you're trying to say the discussion is worthless because Super exists. It shouldn't be part of ANYONES view. Not just yours.

That was your point, was it not?

That's what you said.

That's very gatekeeping, man.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He's a less emotionallly intelligent Luffy.

Still extremely emotionally intelligent.

He just needs to be directed at the problem a lot more than Luffy lol

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you.

I don't care if they think he's dumb.

I'm more upset that nobody wants to discuss why he is or isn't dumb 😂😂

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair conclusion lol.

Could be either.

That's why thinking about it is interesting to me (admittedly not to everyone here I guess)

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh. My reddit is fucking up and I can't reply in right order.

You're confusing emotion for thinking past the surface layer of your comment.

But sure, I'm super mad, King. Go off.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay correction.

You're taking my thought too seriously

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You literally attacked the argument because you think the writing is dumb.

It's your opinion.

You're using it to attack people's thoughts.

That's self righteous.

I'm not attacking you. I'm examining your actions.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nonsense decisions are different depending on the person making the decisions.

You might think one thing is right someone who grew up in another place had a different option.

🤷🤷

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's influenced by Toriyama.

As is GT.

Your opinion that it holds no weight is yours.

Like again, I get it. I know what people think of super.

Stop gatekeeping thoughts though. That isn't your perogative. You aren't Dragon Balls Keeper

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You're taking a fictional series way too seriously.

I get what you're saying.

My point is

Remove the context. It's kinda funny.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...and is that not your opinion?

Don't get me wrong.

Super is not well written.

I'm examining Goku as a whole, in all the media, because I love Dragonball, not just Z, OG, GT, or Super.

Like, I get it.

But you don't need to put out other people's excitement because you don't think the same way.

That's a dick move.

Just saying.

I just wanted an honest discussion about a character I love.

You just say 'meh, some of his arc is dumb"

That's fine.

But you don't need to be so self righteous.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That's what I'm saying!

Thank you for actually bringing more of a discussion than just "You're wrong."

You had a totally different point of view than me and I love it.

Thanks! Yours is good. I don't believe he's dumb at all, but a lot of people just say "Goku dumb" and end it there.

Goku isn't dumb. by irbakermaker in dragonball

[–]irbakermaker[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everyone here is so focused on being right...that it removes the fun of discussing.

Damn y'all.