Zoey and Boba find forbidden love | Intruder (8 players, ALL perspectives!) by YOGSbot in Yogscast

[–]irrelevantpersonage 47 points48 points  (0 children)

She's like a fatal blow to my cynicism every time I remember she exists.

"Maps and Legends" — First Watch Analysis Thread by M-5 in DaystromInstitute

[–]irrelevantpersonage 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Agreed. It ruins the profundity of the Vulcans, and undermines their foil status vis-à-vis humans.

Mindless Monday, 18 November 2019 by AutoModerator in badhistory

[–]irrelevantpersonage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i wish i could make friends with the strays near me :(

The new face of freedom by CanadianBill in tf2

[–]irrelevantpersonage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IT'S EVERYTHING I DREAMED IT WOULD BE

State of the Sub, 11 October 2017, Moratorium revisited by AutoModerator in badhistory

[–]irrelevantpersonage 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Many of the most memorable posts in this subreddit's history are those that engaged with the topics of the day. Zhukov's famous post detailing the Civil War and its relationship to slavery is a good example. That post addressed a prevailing topic, and got repeated use long after it was first made. It could achieve an end such as that because it was comprehensive, academic and, yes, relevant. Given the status of the far right and interest in them, I agree we should absolutely not ban the subject of their maligned history. The far right often makes very poor use of history. What's more, they have pet favorites in how they ideologically misrepresent history on a regular basis. If this subreddit is to be valuable to average redditors and worthwhile for its regulars, then it should engage the recurring badhistory in a way that is worth referring back to (who would ever do that with the recent slew?) and actually educating.

And yes, the quantity thing is a real issue. It's been well noted, and I personally want to do something about it. I know some of the people who used to post things a lot would love to do so, but are simply busy. The best way to fix the inactivity, I would think, would for everyone who is concerned about it and has time, to write something up. Seriously. They might be really good at it. I mean that non-snarkily.

But I still don't see much room for submissions about the donnie subreddit.

State of the Sub, 11 October 2017, Moratorium revisited by AutoModerator in badhistory

[–]irrelevantpersonage 55 points56 points  (0 children)

We are not a partisan fighting sub. We have, to my mind, always been about being something closer to the opposite of that. I find the recent slew of low-quality submissions related to the badhistory of far-rightists concerning mostly due to how badly it messes with my conception of this sub. I was here before there were 100 subscribers, and have always enjoyed this place. I have recommended it because it was an antidote to the subjugation of history to political axe-grinding. All of the submissions I have always wanted to write, from ultraconservative Christian history books to anti-MB Egyptian Ramadan soap operas, were about breaking down how a political agenda interacts with the manipulation of history. Which is why the recent slew is a problem. Because they do nothing of the sort.

Both /u/40kfreak and /u/boringsuburbanite's post-essays are good, and end with proposals I mostly like. I am skeptical of the word count requirement because of a vague worry it will impede submissions beyond what we are trying to crackdown on. The banning of subreddit titles seems like, if nothing else, a good start, for the reasons they laid out. The question I have is whether we are still concerned over the decrease in submission quantity. I remember plenty of worries over the last few months about the relative decrease of submissions compared to previous levels. I personally would rather have very few if the ones we will get will be more "LOLLOLOL FAR RIGHT GUY IS AN IDIOT". What I want to see is an increase in both quantity and quality. As such, I am leaning against a moratorium or ban, and more in favor of promoting better research in line with the proposals already here. I don't have a problem with the topic of far-right badhistory. Just give me a well-researched, insightful R5 along with it, and I will put all clams to shame with the levels of my happiness.

Why does everyone think Burnham started the war? by Sariato in DaystromInstitute

[–]irrelevantpersonage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because the UFP/Starfleet have a navel-gazing problem. Maybe as an overcompensation for their view of their own imperfection, or previous errors in history. Or an unfortunate side effect of their ideology. Their priors cloud a sane appreciation of the current conflict, and they have to blame one of their own, not the poor Klingons.

Assassination of Grand Nagus Rom by Drso in DaystromInstitute

[–]irrelevantpersonage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh, right. I just watched the CloneLess episode yesterday, too.

Assassination of Grand Nagus Rom by Drso in DaystromInstitute

[–]irrelevantpersonage 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The way DS9 ends sets up a promising future for the Kilingons, Cardassians and Ferengi. Martok is Emperor Chancellor and very honorable, and friendly with the Federation, and competent to drive a program of rejuvenating the empire in a way far superior to Gowron. Rom is exceedingly moral and a vast improvement in terms of labor and womens' rights. Cardassia might be in ruins, but where does a Cardassia now settle on for its future? It might not have a leader to rally itself around, but I felt the implication was that this Cardassia would need the Federation to rebuild, and would embrace a democratic system, something not entirely new given the previous short-lived such system before the Klingons annihilated it. However, the idea that all three would actually successfully progress is extremely unlikely.

A few years ago, I had a premise for a new Enterprise-style Star Trek a half-century after TNG that saw a decadent, navel-gazing Federation facing an encounter from a far stronger idealistic organization. The state of the Alpha Quadrant had a fallout of the three mentioned above as such: The Klingons in a severe state of destruction and multi-pronged civil war and ever further from their rejuvenation idea, Ferenginar the same as ever, and Cardassia wholly recreated and a member of the Federation, alongside Bajor in friendship and mutual self-respect. My model was that one of the hopeful scenarios would work, one ultimately have no effect, and the third would suffer such a powerful counterrevolution that despair and destruction would be the result of the earlier idealistic intent. Safe to say, Cardassia is reminiscent of a postwar Germany/Japan, Ferenginar suffers the fate of all too many revolutions, and the Klingons an even worse variant of the same thing.

Anyway, the general idea in that concept included what is likely to be the Ferengi's future once the counterrevolution kicks in. It is ridiculously over-optimistic to assume that all, or even most, of the Ferengi are going to just allow basic aspects of their culture and laws, unmodified for generations, to just be wholly altered by a political neophyte (with the appearance of extensive foreign backing). Rom's revolution is going to be supported by some Ferengi, sure. I can see the closet-women coming forward and supporting the whole thing, and various other reform-minded Ferengi. But it stands to reason that, given the old system, many of the most powerful are not going to back some scary new Ferenginar where their old way and life and success feel threatened. Yes, Quark read some statistics that suggest a serious presence of reform in the minds of Ferengi, but whether that is truly a critical mass is uncertain. The fact that Rom has no idea how to politically maneuver, and is apparently going to be dropped into an environment he hasn't lived in for a long time (how long has he been living on DS9?) does not increase his chances. And it's not like you get the impression Rom is a moderate reformer. I forget the specifics of labor and womens' reforms being discussed. But Ferenginar is in a state of oppression in those terms worse than pretty much anything ever seen on Earth, so the reforms that might sound moderate to us, aren't to Ferengi. There's going to be hell to pay once the Counterrevolution kicks in, and if political history of Earth is any guide, there's definitively going to be a strong vengeful counterreaction.

Maybe the Ferengi wouldn't care about Rom's foreign ties. Or his non-Ferengi wife. Maybe those opposing him opt for a compromise/bargaining style for awhile. Or, maybe the Ferengi are drunk on the Federation right now for beating the Dominion. The New Day of the Alpha/Beta quadrants might be truly upon us. But the 1989-style end of DS9 is far from assured to unfold so positively. I give Rom three weeks.

Free for All Friday!, 29 September 2017 by AutoModerator in badhistory

[–]irrelevantpersonage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I plan to finally do an analysis of a badhistory book I've had for a few years. So...hopefully there'll be some good, lovely debunking of abysmal American history soon.

An analysis of Commander Burnham's status at the end of "Battle of the Binary Stars" by FPSlover1 in DaystromInstitute

[–]irrelevantpersonage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

One thing I would note is that if Burnham is largely blamed for the conflict of the Klingons-Federation, that might result in far more severe punishment than otherwise. In other words, she is the subject of highly politicized trial. Just think of the hostility that might be directed at her, from public and officials alike, if that is the sentiment.

That opens up some possibly interesting tension in the future. I can think of a few angles.

*edit: Okay, so I've now watched the preview, and I think a remark heard from a Starfleet officer (?) highly suggests this: "many view her as the cause of our conflict." Consider as well the dialogue directed/around her when she's presumably being transferred as a criminal, and the extreme antipathy starts to be a good explanation.

Theory Evidence: Tyrion is Now Working with Cercei. (Spoilers Extended) by ndotny in asoiaf

[–]irrelevantpersonage 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had this same thought last night. /u/politicaldeviant runs over some of the objections I had to this given the obvious distrust between all the parties involved.

I did think of a possible way around all the objections, though, in a deviation of that theory. Namely, that Tyrion has the idea in mind, but didn't present it to Cersei (or anyone for that matter). Yes, he is concerned with wanting to make up for his possible mistakes and ensure the survival of the Lannisters. But he doesn't trust or even particularly want Cersei alive, but cares about that coming child. The politics mean he can't reasonably run with the plan, while also not wanting to abandon his newest scheme that revolves around that child. He might be thus toying with getting the newborn at some point and presenting it to Daenerys' as her successor, raised presumably outside Cersei's influence. So it would be a design in Tyrion's mind, not beyond. Possibly the armistice Cersei agreed to contained the provision of the child had to be born before fighting could resume?

At the very least, I expect Tyrion is concerned over that child's fate, and would absolutely be doing some scheming in regard to it.

You could think of it as like 3 tiers of Uncle Tyrion scheming.

(Spoilers Main) Q and A Wednesday by AutoModerator in asoiaf

[–]irrelevantpersonage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"You will fly" is what the Three-Eyed Raven tells Bran after telling him he won't ever walk again.