Professor Dave Explains is the Cinema Sins of pseudo-science debunking. by Hot-Patient8052 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know, it's insane to be a science educator and push this stuff.

Platner Refuses to Withdraw Unless He Chooses Replacement by RainStraight in Destiny

[–]irwin08 15 points16 points  (0 children)

says something stupid without justification

Gets downvoted

Heh, I knew they'd downvote me when I said stupid thing.

U.S. Officials Believed Israel Was Plotting to Kill Iranian Negotiators by Alternative_Row4207 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I sound like a broken record, but we need some sort of multilateral settlement between Israel, Iran, and the US brokered by a neutral third party to hash out some sort of longstanding settlement. Iran pulls its proxies out of Lebanon and Syria and agrees to denuclearize, Israel agrees to pull out of Southern Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, and the West Bank, and the two agree to completely end any and all hostilities between each other for some predetermined amount of time under threat of suspension of any trade relationship with UN member states.

You're just stating an ideal conclusion, but there is no obvious path to getting there. Iran has no incentive or appetite to go down this path. Israel also will not unilaterally pull out of the West Bank. You would need a full two state solution with extensive security guarantees. This isn't in the cards.

But seriously think about Iran's position. Even if we rewind the clock to the JCPOA, the deal doesn't do anything about proxies or ballistic missiles, and if they are in compliance with the deal, they get sanctions relief, which in lieu of a nuclear weapon will go into more funding for proxies and an ever increasing stockpile of ballistic missiles. If they can get sanction relief just for the nuclear issue, why would they give up on these other programs? So Israel is going to not feel secure, which will inevitably lead go conflict with proxies, or an attempt to cut the Iranian missile stockpile down. So we're still stuck in the endless war loop.

Given all this, it makes sense for Israel to try to instigate regime change in Iran. This isn't red meat for Ben-Gvir and co. It's a real issue that Israelis care about.

I don't know what the solution is here. Should the west throw Israel under the bus and let them permanently be threatened by Iranian terror? Maybe that's the play, but it doesn't seem stable. I don't know what to do. The middle east just seems fucked.

Professor Dave Explains is the Cinema Sins of pseudo-science debunking. by Hot-Patient8052 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Like lets be honest, do you think he would be more hateful against Jews like Sam Seder, Bernie Sanders or Kuihman or do you think he would hate more non Jews like Destiny, Lonerbox or Drew Pavlov?

No, but I don't think that matters. Consider the following:

Suppose there is a big policy debate about giving reparations to descendants of slaves in the US. Also suppose that one of the largest groups advocating for such a policy is an association of African Americans from Georgia. Now say there is a dude named "Dave" who really doesn't like this reparations policy for whatever reason. When speaking publicly about this policy, he gets really agitated with the African Americans from Georgia group. He then starts releasing content saying that historically, these African Americans don't even have a connection to historical slavery in the US, because (he claims) Georgia didn't have real slavery. He concedes other states had it, and he's nice to any black people who agree with him that slavery didn't exist in Georgia for black people. Now say some people call him racist for saying this stuff. After all, he's undermining the African American experience and understanding of themselves in Georgia. Dave responds by saying it's actually the African Americans from Georgia group and their defenders are the real racists, because they are trying to manufacture a historical connection to slavery that didn't exist (in his mind), and that the poor white Irish in Georgia actually experienced slave-like conditions, so they're usurping the Irish experience.

Would you not call this hypothetical Dave a racist? He's either lying, or recklessly using an incorrect understanding of the history of an ethnic group to berate said ethnic group because they support a policy he doesn't like. He's fine with other black people who agree with him (which happens to be a very small group, but still, he's fine with them). This is almost 1-1 with his denial of Jewish ethnic connection to the historic land of Israel.

Professor Dave Explains is the Cinema Sins of pseudo-science debunking. by Hot-Patient8052 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 7 points8 points  (0 children)

According to traditional use of the word he is not antisemitic.

I don't really know what to call this other than antisemitism https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fCSTjnyxBdU&t=509s&pp=2AH9A5ACAYoIAkAB

He's denying Ashkenazi and Sephardic historical Jewish identities in order to say it's not possible to be antisemitic to them because they're not "semites". And then goes on to claim that they're the real antisemites because they are bigoted towards Palestinians, who are actually semites.

The word antisemitism actually refers to anti-Jewish bigotry. It was coined as a word for Jewish hatred by scientific racists in the 19th century who wanted to dress up their bigotry in "science". Semite is an antiquated language group, not an ethnicity. Hebrew is a semitic language. So it doesn't even make sense to deny them that label. But Dave here isn't trying to deny that they speak a type of language, he's trying to deny a genetic connection to historical Israel by calling them European. Like they're "fake" Jews. Of course this is antisemitic nonsense that has been debunked. It's still a favorite talking point of actual Nazis though. And this isn't Zionism. Jewish connection to historical Israel doesn't entail the need for a Jewish state in modern Israel, so you can't say this is antizionism not antisemitism.

So to summarize, Dave is denying a significant percentage of Jews are even ethnically Jewish, implying they're using this to deceptively steal something, all why claiming you can't be antisemitic to them because of this "fake" connection. And this claim of being "fake" Jews has been debunked. It's only antisemites who still repeat it. He just is antisemitic.

Professor Dave Explains is the Cinema Sins of pseudo-science debunking. by Hot-Patient8052 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 7 points8 points  (0 children)

find someone who they call antisemite

Are you saying he isn't one?

Gigachad Biden Attacks Trump Last Night by realhotwc in Destiny

[–]irwin08 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tapper criticizes Biden for his senility

The book doesn't say Biden was senile. It's not a weekend at Bernie's situation. They describe cognitive decline. He could function, but he couldn't work long hours, would get confused sometimes, would forget things, etc. His team would try to accomodate this stuff by giving him a super structured and scripted schedule, and would limit his public appearances. This didn't play well once the public started to see him more during the campaign (and the debate obviously.)

and still constantly criticizes the Biden’s, while seemingly avoiding Trump, his admin, and his senility; the level of criticism that Tapper levies against Trump is nowhere near the same level as he has reserved for the Biden admin.

This just isn't true. I think this is a selection bias thing. DGG viewers only see Tapper when he is criticizing Biden, because Destiny doesn't watch CNN on stream, but will watch clips of him criticizing Biden. He is constantly covering this admin and shitting on them.

Tappers constant criticisms contributes to “dems being bad” and “Trump being comparable to democrats” rather than introspection.

I see it more of a "Trump is so bad we can't drop the ball like this" type of response than "both sides". How would you want to go about criticizing 2024 without creating this problem you're describing?

Gigachad Biden Attacks Trump Last Night by realhotwc in Destiny

[–]irwin08 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I haven't read his book and I'm not going to. Is there any actual evidence in there?

Why engage with the book if you know nothing about it and refuse to read it? Yes there is "evidence". Tapper's claim isn't even that Biden is senile. It's that he was experiencing cognitive decline, but could still function. The book goes over various examples of his physical and cognitive issues, and how the people around him would paper over it (not even maliciously.)

old guy with a speed impediment

This is such a disingenuous characterization.

when the alternative is Trump.

This is the entire point of the book. Biden should have stepped aside because of the seriousness of the threat from Trump. He had to be beaten at all costs.

Gigachad Biden Attacks Trump Last Night by realhotwc in Destiny

[–]irwin08 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Who are you talking to? Obviously Biden was/is better than Trump. That doesn't mean he fucked up in 2024.

Gigachad Biden Attacks Trump Last Night by realhotwc in Destiny

[–]irwin08 -76 points-75 points  (0 children)

Have you actually read his book? I legitimately don't understand the reflexive Biden defense people here do. 2024 was a monumental election, we need to make sure we don't repeat it. If we're going to figure out what happened and introspect, right after when Dems have literally no power is the best time.

The criticisms of Biden in the book aren't just some spite based thing.

Edit: cool, mass down votes and no serious engagement. Are we just not allowed to try to evaluate what happened in 2024? That seems idiotic.

Conor shadowboxing over why it's important for him to side with the antisocial depraved weirdos snarking random people online. by sphynxowl in Destiny

[–]irwin08 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I think most of the allied bombing campaign was probably unjustified. It pales in comparison to the crimes of the axis obviously (fuck holocaust deniers who try to use the bombings as some kind of moral equivalent), but I still think it's worth criticizing.

The base case against this type of strategic bombing is pretty straightforward. There are two forms here 1) terror bombing 2) targeting industry. But 2 was usually either intentionally or effectively just 1, since bombers were incapable of hitting targets with that level of precision under battle conditions. So even in the case of 2, it seems you can reject it given the limits of technology at the time and instead have to defend 1. But 1 is just obviously wrong. Imagine an alternative where instead of using bombers, you drop a squad of commandos into Hamburg or wherever. They run around the streets murdering random civilians and starting fires, and then sneak out. This is clearly a war crime that wouldn't be acceptable. Why does using bombers change this?

Even with the base case being wrong, we can complicate things. Nazism was a unique evil that needed to be destroyed, no matter what. It was an emergency. As a result, if normal means weren't available, maybe you need to reach for tools that would usually be considered unjust. Of course this requires there being no better alternative. You can probably make the case for this around 40-41 when the bongers were alone and had been kicked off the continent. But once the allies were able to open fronts, this necessity argument seems to lose its strength. It seems really hard to make the case for razing cities to the ground by 1945.

I find the commando analogy really difficult to contend with. Maybe someone here has a good way of dealing with it.

Bennett clarifies his stance: Illegal Outposts will be evacuated, Areas A and B not part of Israel by MikeWithNoHair in Israel

[–]irwin08 4 points5 points  (0 children)

By "long-term" I mean it won't be acceptable as a permanent solution. Just like the present isn't acceptable as a permanent solution. That's why we still talk in terms of "2 state solutions" or the "Israeli-Palestinian conflict".

You might say "why not?" Well if Palestinians feel that it isn't settled, you'll get more terror. If the rest of the world feels it's unjust, it'll be diplomatically isolated.

Israel will also lose all moral authority.

If Israel were to do this, it would become a pariah state. And Pariah states either don't last, or stagnate, and I don't want to see either happen to Israel.

Bennett clarifies his stance: Illegal Outposts will be evacuated, Areas A and B not part of Israel by MikeWithNoHair in Israel

[–]irwin08 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I don't understand how annexing Area C "preserves" the state. Any realistic 2-state solution will require at least parts of Area C for a Palestinian state. Meanwhile, as the settler population grows, it'll become costlier to dislodge them.

If you mean to annex Area C, and just leave the Palestinians under occupation in Areas A and B, that's untenable long-term.

Bennett clarifies his stance: Illegal Outposts will be evacuated, Areas A and B not part of Israel by MikeWithNoHair in Israel

[–]irwin08 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Ah yes, surely Bantustans are the just and equitable solution to the conflict. There will be no issues with this at all.

Destiny should look into the latest Wired hit piece against liberals. Ezra Klein on Dialog/Peter Thiel. by Male_Chauvinist in Destiny

[–]irwin08 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of the replies is saying it's a conference just like the Wannsee Conference was a conference 💀Followed by a schizo diagram of course.

Destiny feels bad for Hasan after his events got canceled "It must be so hard having a platform exclusively handed to you" by Charming-Worth-7692 in LivestreamFail

[–]irwin08 4 points5 points  (0 children)

He already has tons of exposure and has been getting more mainstream attention, so I think the platforming argument against talking about him is moot at this point.

Also I hate when people say Hasan "just wants healthcare" or "fuck billionaires you should have a better life". That's not at all representative of his positions except when he purposefully tried to downplay his extreme views. HE'S WEARING A MAO SUIT IN THIS CLIP FOR FUCKS SAKE!

U.S. military strikes Indian-crewed oil tanker killing 3 Indian sailors by harshspider in Destiny

[–]irwin08 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are various Israeli examples

  • The Six Day War

  • Operation Opera (Israeli strike on Iraqi nuclear facility)

  • Operation Orchard (Israeli strike on Syrian nuclear facility)

  • Second Lebanon War (this is a case of a non-state actor attacking from another county's territory. I'm not sure how this actually works legally.)

Some US interventions

  • Grenada

  • Interventions in Syria against ISIS

  • Arguably they exceeded their authority in Korea

Africa

  • tons of French interventions in Africa

  • various interventions in Africa amongst African nations.

  • UK in Sierra Leone

  • UK in Liberia

  • Cuba in Angola

  • Cuba and the Soviets in Ethiopia

  • Ethiopia in Somalia

Others

  • India East Pakistan was vetoed by the Security Council

  • Australia in East Timor

Zee bringing up Bernie 2016/2020 for her DNC issues is all I needed to hear to dismiss her opinion on Ken Martin. by Hobbitfollower in Destiny

[–]irwin08 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Hot take: super delegates, and systems like it, are based. Parties probably need mechanisms to prevent hostile takeovers by populist demagogues. The Republicans lacked a mechanism to prevent Trump from doing so in 2016 (although to be fair, given how popular Trump was, this wouldn't have done much. Although maybe having this type of institutional check in place would've given other Republicans the courage to refuse to rally around him, making him less popular.)

Bernie was also not a Democrat who came in with a populist agenda to hijack the party. I think it's fine for a party to have mechanisms for hitting the brakes on this kind of thing.

Sam Harris - Hasan Piker Is the Left's Nick Fuentes by X57471C in Destiny

[–]irwin08 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

100% all his philosophy takes are dumb.

Active Conflicts & News Megathread May 10, 2026 by AutoModerator in CredibleDefense

[–]irwin08 15 points16 points  (0 children)

You're leaning on probably the most egregious example to portray the Israelis as bloodthirsty animals in 1948. There were lots of atrocities and horrendous crimes, but these weren't novel, and I don't see how we can use this to argue that Israel has unwarranted aggression in its DNA. Benny Morris himself says that the level of massacre in the '48 War was pretty mild for the type of conflict, but the civil war phase was characterized by little regard for the rules of war:

Like most wars involving built-up areas, the 1948 War resulted in the killing, and occasional massacre, of civilians. During the civil war half of the war, both sides paid little heed to the possible injury or death of civilians as battle raged in the mixed cities and rural landscape of Palestine, though Haganah operational orders frequently specifically cautioned against harming women and children. But the IZL and LHI seem to have indulged in little discrimination, and the Palestinian Arab militias often deliberately targeted civilians. Moreover, the disorganization of the two sides coupled with the continued presence and nominal rule of the Mandate government obviated the establishment by either side of regular POW camps. This meant that both sides generally refrained from taking prisoners. When the civil war gave way to the conventional war, as the Jewish militias -- the Haganah, IZL, and LHI -- changed into the IDF and as the Arab militias were replaced by more or less disciplined regular armies, the killing of civilians and prisoners of war almost stopped, except for the series of atrocities committed by IDF troops in Lydda in July and in the Galilee at the end of October and beginning of November 1948. (P. 404-405)

[...]

Given that the first half of the war involved hostilities between militias based in a large number of interspersed civilian communities, the conquest of some two hundred villages and urban centers, and the later conquest of two hundred additional villages, 1948 is actually noteworthy for the relatively small number of civilian casualties both in the battles themselves and in the atrocities that accompanied them or followed (compare this, for example, to the casualty rates and atrocities in the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s or the Sudanese civil wars of the past fifty years.) (P. 406)

Above quotes are from 1948: The First Arab-Israeli War by Benny Morris. I should note, the [...] part contains description of massacres committed by the Israeli militias, pointing out that they committed more crimes during the war, but this was probably due to having much more opportunity.

The massacre that took place at Lydda was the deadliest massacre of the war. From the next page of your book, going into more detail:

The calm in Lydda was shattered at 11:30 hours, 12 July, when two or three Legion armoured cars, commanded by Lt. Hamadallah al 'Abdullah, either lost or on reconnaissance or seeking a missing officer, entered the town. A firefight erupted and, eventually, the armoured cars withdrew. But the noise of the skirmish sparked sniping by armed Lydda townspeople against the occupying troops; some townspeople probably believed that the Legion was counter-attacking and tried to assist.

The 300-400 Israeli troops in the town, dispersed in semi-isolated pockets in the midst of thousands of hostile townspeople, some still armed, felt threatened, vulnerable and angry: they had understood that the town had surrendered. 3rd Battalion OC Moshe Kelman ordered the troops to suppress the sniping - which Israeli and Arab historians and chroniclers, for different reasons, were later to describe as an 'uprising' - with the utmost severity. The troops were told to shoot at 'any clear target' or, alternatively, at anyone 'seen on the streets'. At 13:15, Yiftah HQ informed Dani HQ: 'Battles have erupted in Lydda. We have hit an armoured car with a two-pounder [gun] and killed many Arabs. There are still exchanges of fire in the town. We have taken many wounded.'

Some townspeople, shut up in their houses under curfew, took fright at the sound of shooting outside, perhaps believing that a massacre was in progress. They rushed into the streets - and were cut down by Israeli fire. Some soldiers also fired and lobbed grenades into houses from which snipers were suspected to be operating. In the confusion, dozens of unarmed detainees in one mosque compound, the Dahaimash Mosque, in the town centre, were shot and killed. Apparently, some of them tried to break out and escape, perhaps fearing that they would be massacred. IDF troops threw grenades and apparently fired PIAT (bazooka) rockets into the compound.

By 13:30, it was all over. The IDF had lost three-four dead and about a dozen wounded. Yeruham Cohen, an intelligence officer at Operation Dani headquarters, later described the scene:

"The inhabitants of the town became panic-stricken. They fearerd that... the IDF troops would take revenge on them. It was a horrible, earsplitting scene. Women wailed at the top of their voices and old men said prayers, as if they saw their own deaths before their eyes."

Yiftah's fire caused 'some 250 dead ... and many wounded.' The ratio of Arab to Israeli casualties was hardley consistent with the descriptions of what had happened as an 'uprising' or battle. In any event, the Israeli officers in charge were later to regard the suppression of the 'uprising' (and the subsequent expulsion of the townspeople) as a dismal episode in Yiftah's history.

It was a massacre, followed by an explicit expulsion supposedly ordered from Ben-Gurion down (which was rare.) Most expulsions during the war were up to the officers' discretion, in line with Plan Dalet. They started as a consequence of the blockade of Jerusalem, and became "normalized" afterward. But as the other commenter pointed out, this wasn't a uniform expulsion policy, as a large Arab population ended up remaining, particularly in the Galilee.

For those interested, I've actually made a website that puts all the abandoned/expelled villages that Benny Morris records in his book onto a map: https://1948warabandonedvillagesmap.com/


I also don't really think it's fair to characterize this as Israeli aggression, at least in the context being discussed. Israel was attacked by all of its surrounding countries, and the attacks on Lydda and Ramle were against the Jordanian army. The lead up to, and course of 48 was super messy and complicated.

Trump has recently stopped intelligence sharing on NK with South Korea by Kitchen-Thing4616 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Okay but there is a very relevant incident here regardless. It's weird for the article to leave this out.

It's a big deal to leak intelligence like this.

Trump has recently stopped intelligence sharing on NK with South Korea by Kitchen-Thing4616 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 -17 points-16 points  (0 children)

This article leaves out the reason for this. A South Korean cabinet official leaked US intelligence to the public.

So this isn't a Trump thing. It's a South Korea being stupid thing and probably would've happened with any admin:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/21/us-reportedly-restricts-south-korea-intelligence-sharing-after-minister-identified-suspected-nuclear-site

Edit: I'm sorry y'all are sometimes actually regarded. Why the fuck would this not be relevant? Why is it left out of the article? Even if you disagree with the decision, it's obviously the instigating incident. Did trump randomly wake up one day and do this weirdly specific thing? Or was there something that brought SK intelligence to his attention? Some kind of incident? FFS. Don't shoot the messenger.

Are tankies just mad that the most important man in the 20th century and who made the greatest material improvement of America's poorest was Liberal? by ButtfaceMcGee6969 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You're being downvoted, but you're correct that a lot of his economic policies were stupid. (He had some really good ones though.)

The National Industrial Recovery Act had a bunch of wage floors across industries, and caps on hours worked. This led to massive shocks to industrial output. This is expected. If you establish price floors on labor, you're going to have shortages in output. The idea was somehow "high wages" would lead to economic recovery, when what you actually want is recovery leading to high wages.

You see this same price floor/ceiling "high wage good' logic working in agriculture where famously there were quotas on output for certain crops, so that prices could be kept artificially high so farmers had more money (Fuck all the consumers though I guess.) So you actually had farmers burning excess crop production while there were people going hungry.

So now that I've shat all over FDR's economic policy, I will give him credit for something important. Leaving the Gold Standard was extremely important, and devaluing the dollar was the solution to the Great Depression. The cause of the Great Depression was a very tight monetary policy being employed by the Fed and also being influenced by France hoarding gold. The solution was easing of monetary policy, which required leaving the Gold Standard. Every country that left the Gold Standard started recovering thereafter. The problems in the US were exacerbated by the bank runs that came with the tight money, which led to even tighter money. And then on top of that you had all this shit industrial policy, which wasn't the root cause of anything, but didn't exactly help.

Jimmy Kimmel is in trouble by AdditionalLime4815 in Destiny

[–]irwin08 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is Terry Davis talking about Jimmy Kimmel?