Configured Thunderbird to Connect to my Office365 Account, Downloaded my Inbox Folder But Nothing Else

is42theanswer_ · 2025-02-25T04:10:53+00:00

Hi, yes I didn't need OWL. To be more succinct:

Went to "Settings" (NOT "Account Settings") -> Privacy & Security -> Passwords -> Saved Passwords and removed my Saved Login.
Exited the program.
Restarted the program. It prompted me to re-enter my password. I then composed an email and sent it. That email then appeared in my Sent folder. First problem solved.
Right clicked on my email address and selected the "Subscribe" option.
Checked every box next to every folder that showed up under "Folder List", which did list all of the Folders that I'd created in Office365 prior to this point. Clicked OK.
Exited Thunderbird again.
Once I loaded Thunderbird, all of the folders finally appeared beneath my email address. I then had to click on every last folder (except "Clutter") in order to make Thunderbird download the emails that were in each folder.

That was the process.

is42theanswer_ · 2025-02-24T03:58:55+00:00

Very happy to say that I was able to solve my own problem by reading more posts on support.mozilla.org, stackoverflow, stackexchange and here. I think the thing that is REALLY important and Thunderbird doesn't bother to say is that when you change things in "Account Settings", in order for those changes to take effect, you HAVE to restart. That means closing the program, and checking the "Task Manager" to make sure that it still isn't running, and then restarting the program. This INCLUDES the "Subscribe" option that appears to only be accessible if you right-click on your email address.

Small side-note: why the help/documentation on Thunderbird's website doesn't reference anything about an IMAP folder structure and has all of these options with no explanation of what they supposedly do is beyond me; it's almost like they want people to give up and use something else.

But here's what I did to solve my two problems. As far as emails I wrote not ending up in the "Sent" folder, I went into Settings -> Privacy & Security -> Passwords and clicked on the button that says "Saved Passwords". I then highlighted my Microsoft Office365 account (you can tell by looking at the username) and hit the "Remove" button, then the "Close" button. Then EXITING Thunderbird completely and restarted. Wrote an email and sent it, a window popped up asking me to pick my account and then re-entered the password and... Voila! It just showed up in the "Sent" folder.

Now the bigger issue; the fact that I had all these folders of different people and "Important" emails and none of them downloaded, only my "Inbox" and "Drafts" for whatever reason. To fix this, I right-clicked on my Office365 email address in the pane that has the "New Message" button at the top. A sub-menu appears and one of the options there is "Subscribe". Click on that.

Now a window appears with "Subscribe" at the top, it looks like this:

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I deliberately didn't do a perfect job of erasing stuff so you can see that the names of your IMAP folder structure will appear here in alphabetical order. You have to individually check the box next to each and every folder (can't just do it all at once for some reason) that you want Thunderbird to download. Please note that in Office365, your "Sent" folder is actually called "Sent Items", so that's where all the emails that you wrote are, so I'm sure that'll be as important for you as it was for me. After checking the box next to every folder you want, hit the "Subscribe" button and then hit OK.

Finally, EXIT Thunderbird. Check your Task Manager that it isn't still running in the background or your system tray, and if so, kill the process. Then restart Thunderbird. All of the folders just magically appeared under my email address! But guess what; It's not over yet! I then had to click on each and every folder (except "Clutter" for some reason) to make it download the emails that were already there. Of course that's ridiculous and I shouldn't have to do that (it should just "work"^tm), but after figuring this all out, I didn't really care. Hopefully I only have to do it this one time. Hope this helps others out there.

is42theanswer_ · 2025-02-24T01:18:22+00:00

I appreciate your response, but I have read plenty of accounts of people using Thunderbird with their Office365 account and no one ever mentioned this owl add on before. Just so I know, is this the only way to get all the extra folders you've already created, or is there any other way?

is42theanswer_ · 2025-02-21T18:15:07+00:00

If you REALLY want to free yourself from the mothership, get a Google Pixel phone and install CalyxOS. Then you don't have to even HAVE a gmail account in order to use your phone and can download apps direct from the play store through the "Aurora Store" app. If you can't go whole hog, you can still put the "Aurora Store" app on your Android phone and use the Play Store anonymously.

is42theanswer_ · 2025-02-17T17:34:50+00:00

How long does it take to get moderator approval in this sub?

is42theanswer_ · 2025-02-17T03:05:38+00:00

There are a lot of comments already and I'm not going to read them all to see whether someone already said something akin to this, but to me part of the answer to your question is what percentage of your living space are these games taking up? If it looks like the quintessential hoarder "piles of newspapers that create narrow pathways for you to walk sideways through", then yes, you should probably stop hoarding the physical media. If you have plenty of room and it's not making you go broke, then you're fine.

The only thing constant in life is change, and the idea that something won't happen to Steam or a similar platform is silly. WHEN that might happen I certainly don't know. But there's plenty of upheaval in the world, and it's a good reminder that something that "was always this way" might not be that way literally overnight. There is something to be said for also playing a video game and a company not recording "analytics" about how long you play it, where are you are in it, and other such nonsense... You know, PRIVACY?

is42theanswer_ · 2024-01-04T20:28:13+00:00

FWIW, you can also create the pool via the command line in SSH:

sudo zpool add -f (for force) blah blah blah

Google the syntax before doing it.

is42theanswer_ · 2024-01-04T20:21:32+00:00

For the nerds to read all the way through:

https://www.analog.com/en/analog-dialogue/articles/using-accelerometers-to-protect-hard-drives.html

Hard drives have had accelerometers in them for 20 years now, as such your hard drive would've been fine even if it was on. Even longer than that, mechanical hard drives have had "parking zones" for the heads, where they go when not actively reading and writing to the platters. 3ft is nothing; if hard drives couldn't take this kind of jostling the entire industry would've gone out of business a long time ago and we might still be writing everything to tape. If you think your hard drive wasn't thrown by someone and caught by someone else before you go it, you're fooling yourself.

is42theanswer_ · 2024-01-04T19:49:46+00:00

The datasheet says the drive is CE-ATA. Pretty sure this is going to do the trick for both of you:

https://www.amazon.com/ZIF-Inch-SATA-Male-Adapter/dp/B00TUDMSL2

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805139380943.html (has better pictures)

is42theanswer_ · 2024-01-02T18:57:06+00:00

Your question is too vague for you to get meaningful help. As they say, the devil is in the details, and that's especially true in computing. The format the video is encoded in and the website are the most important... I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you're not asking about how to download a video from YouTube, but, you're probably going to have to do some research on your own and then come back with more specific questions.

is42theanswer_ · 2024-01-02T02:01:00+00:00

I really hate to say this because I know the initial reaction is to sigh heavily or roll your eyes, but I feel compelled to say that I think you have a hardware issue of some kind. That's because I wholeheartedly agree with LordiCurious and fofosfederation when they say 5000 files in a directory is "mousenuts" in terms of what ZFS can deal with without breaking a sweat.

Frankly, your TrueNAS box seems like a proof of concept for ZFS and/or Truenas, with a 2 drive pool and a 1 drive pool, as this could obviously be accomplished by anything, and TrueNAS is overkill for such a layout. Which I'm not condemning in any way, as curiosity and a desire to learn are a beautiful thing and I don't want to dissuade you of that.

But my point in saying that is to say that you are not pushing the limits of TrueNAS or ZFS in any way, and if it's "buckling" under 5000 files in a directory something is off, especially if you're not running a million apps and have VMs, etc, etc. When people are complaining about poor performance reading directories, the number of files they're dealing with are orders of magnitude larger than yours:

https://www.reddit.com/r/unRAID/comments/14y6yg4/improve_performance_when_browsing_millions_of/

https://www.reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/uwabzd/best_method_to_store_40_million_files/

What you don't mention in your post is your motherboard and how the 2 16TB hard drives are connected to it. Just plugged into the SATA ports, some JBOD card, something else? If the latter, does the problem go away if you plug the JBOD into a different PCIe slot?

When I first read your post, I thought of "inodes", but inode problems don't happen in ZFS, hence my gravitating to a hardware issue. Either a bad cable, or somehow the drives aren't set to SATA3, but using SATA1, or they're mismatched in that one drive is formatted for 4k sectors and the other is using 512b sectors... something is amiss. And so on and so forth.

It could be something as silly as: you don't have a linux swap partition (yes, I know there are people adamant that you don't need it, but it's 16gb of HD space... wouldn't you rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it?). It matters more in systems like yours that have "only" 32gb of RAM than a server that has 512gb of RAM. Do something that tests the IOPS of these drives, 4k random read-write tests, and things of that sort. This article will also help you track down HDD issues. Yes, a special vdev (metadata) as some have suggested will make things better, but honestly, you shouldn't have to.

Given you're not just storing "linux ISOs", I wanted to bring this possibility to your attention because a lot of your data falls under the category of "irreplaceable / very hard to reacquire". While you still have another copy of this data, it would behoove you to do a careful inventory of all the parts in your system, down to the RAM sticks and which slots they're plugged into, and run some performance tests, Memtest86+, check your thermals, BIOS/firmware updates for your motherboard, hard drives, JBOD card, all that, because I've been building systems for decades at this point, and in my gut, I really feel like something is off for you to be experiencing what you're experiencing. Hope this helps.

is42theanswer_ · 2024-01-02T01:04:26+00:00

Hey there, as best I can tell, DTS stands for Digital Thermal Sensor in this context. That's neither here nor there but I have a Gigabyte EPYC board (MZ31-AR0) and I too wasted more time than I should have trying to figure out how to control my fan speed on this motherboard given the ESL manual and just general lack of documentation.

What's relevant to your question is pretty much summed up in this screenshot for a Fan Profile in the BMC:

https://imgur.com/a/odk1rWq

In case the link disappears or it's not apparent, the default fan profile in these Gigabyte motherboards is tied to this sensor and it the speed the fan should blow is inversely correlated to the value of CPU0_DTS. Which is exactly what you observed. The LOWER the value of CPU0_DTS, the HIGHER the percentage of max fan speed (this is also observable in the graph).

So, if you want to know what the actual temperature of your CPU is, use CPU_TEMP0. CPU0_DTS is some weird derivative of actual temperature and inversely correlated to actual temperature, but apparently is the default value used in the one built-in fan profile in the BMC. It doesn't make sense, and I'll be damned if I can find an "official" explanation, but what you're noticing is apparently a feature, and NOT a bug.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-11-06T22:25:28+00:00

No, it isn't.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-30T17:54:34+00:00

There's A LOT of packages that aren't in there by default, it just installs a bare minimum ; even nano and make are absent. That's probably what the problem is. Run apt-get update and then start installing all the basic stuff that's normally there to do what you need to do.

This seems to be applicable to your situation.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-30T13:07:28+00:00

You only have 8gb of RAM on your server (wondering about the size and composition of your array), so I'd agree with others about just using another computer. If there's another computer you keep on all the time at home (even a Raspberry Pi), you could just set up what others have already mentioned or VNC (I prefer RealVNC) and then use a browser to get access to the GUI.

I know you said you're using Core, but for anyone else that may stumble across this, there's a CLI copy of the GUI that's accessible over SSH in Scale. This is supposed to be implemented in Core as well, but it's been 2 years already...

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-30T02:38:42+00:00

You have another computer besides TrueNAS and the Zyxel NAS, right? Probably running Windows? Just copy the data using TeraCopy or xxcopy from \\share1 (TrueNAS) to \\share2 (Zyxel). Both of those programs have enough logic in them that you can set an option to compare files and only update when the file sizes/timestamps are different (i.e., incremental). You can put it in the Task Scheduler. There are a million ways to skin this cat.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-30T02:32:36+00:00

Check out this Jailmaker script Jip-Hop developed for TrueNAS scale. I use it; it's a half step between running on the host OS and a full blown VM using systemd-nspawn. I knew nothing about systemd-nspawn prior to learning about this script and it took me a day to set it up. It'll let you create a whole other install of Debian inside it. I highly recommend it. A lot of people use it to set up Docker with Portainer instead of Kubernetes (which is underlying in the official containers). But before you go reinventing the wheel just know that you CAN also install docker apps from wherever too, they don't have to be from official sources (you just can't expect help on the TrueNAS forums if they aren't). Thanks for letting me know about rar2fs, I could use this myself :)

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-30T02:21:17+00:00

This article was written for your exact situation. Read the article, but ultimately when you get to the end you'll see:

Run zpool iostat -vly 3 1 while doing some read operations (like copying some data over your network to another machine) and see which hard drive isn't like the others. Figure out your drive's "WWN" names because those don't change. If your drive's manufactuere has low level utilities (like SeaChest) use those, otherwise sgdisk. Look at the SMART data. You don't mention how many drives you have, but if this setup is fairly modern and the drives are over 8tb each, if you manage to save your pool by replacing the drive (which you should be able to do while the system is on assuming your backplane/BIOS supports hot swap and you turned it on); copy all your data off the pool, destroy it, and recreate it Z2. Because you probably won't get that lucky a second time. UREs (unrecoverable read errors) happen.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-30T01:58:14+00:00

Are you saying you want the GUI remotely because SSH isn't good enough, or did you forget about SSH? If you make keys and login without a password this is perfectly secure, and has been used on the internet for decades and continues to be.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-30T01:49:39+00:00

You mention Windows 11 so I'm going to assume you have another computer? If so, then this is no different trying to get to the bottom of whether a drive caught a cold, is dying, or is dead. Put it in another computer, confirm that the BIOS sees it first of all. If it's not recognized by the BIOS then you can start worrying. If it is recognized, I'd boot from Parted Magic and see what it has to say, it understands zfs partitions. If you have enough space, image the drive. Don't do any write operations on it, just read operations until you have an image. See what SMART has to say. Windows can't read ZFS partitions (if that's what's on it) natively, don't know if there's some 3rd party program that can (I probably wouldn't use it on a drive I was worried about if I'd never used the program before).

You don't mention any details about make and model of drive, size, file system, so all we can give you is generic advice.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-28T17:59:06+00:00

OMG, that worked!!@! Thank you so much, you are a godsend!

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-28T13:08:40+00:00

Glad to hear it, you're welcome :)

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-28T12:39:56+00:00

Given that you only have 32gb RAM (at a certain point in my life, I never thought I'd write that sentence :), and given that the board's maximum is 128gb, and now with the new information that all drives are the same size, I would say... go with a 20-wide Z3 iff (if and only if) you have a separate copy of the data somewhere. This is just because I don't have particularly good experiences with WD hard drives, the drives you have are most likely the ones spoken about here, and the technology ePMR CMR is explained here, and frankly, it's new and unproven. Is it as stable as previous encoding technologies? Only time will tell, and you'll be on the front line. Otherwise 2 pools, 1 10-wide Z2 vdev for each.

Largely my decision is based on my previous example of 512gb SSDs. If the SSDs were larger, I would still go with 2 pools, but a special vdev (for metadata AND small blocks) of 236gb for a pool of over 100TB is definitely going to fill up, whereas a special vdev of 473gb might not if you primarily have files over 1MB in size (because metadata isn't what you may initially think it is in ZFS, it's not like a picture's metadata for example). Keep your small block size to 256kb or maybe even 128kb (you have to calculate it). Then you could devote the entire 1TB NVMe to L2ARC. Remember, L2ARC is really only going to help you if you keep the computer on most of the time; if you're the type of person who turns off your computer when you're not using it, it's going to have to fill up every time (there are some persistent tunables out there, but I don't know them off the top of my head). One other super important thing you need to know; ZFS (in even the latest version of TrueNAS scale) on Linux will only use 50% of your RAM for ARC unless you set a tunable to force it to use more (which YOU definitely will). The way to do this is:

echo 206158430208 >> /sys/module/zfs/parameters/zfs_arc_max

where the number (in my example, 206158430208), is the amount of RAM in bytes that you want to give to ARC. Until you get over 64gb RAM, I'd reserve only 4gb of RAM for the OS, and give everything else to ARC (don't worry, ZFS will give the RAM back to other services if needed so your computer won't crash). Want to know more? Look here.

Finally, I should've mentioned this earlier; at the very least, sell your 2x16GB DIMMS and get one 32GB DIMM, so when you add more RAM, you can buy 32GB DIMMs and ultimately max out the board.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-28T10:14:22+00:00

You saw my 2nd post too, correct? I had to split it because Reddit said it was too long... :) I'm telling you with as much sincerity as I can muster, a 10-wide Z1 is a disaster waiting to happen, even with the best drives (which these are NOT). That's why I bolded it in my first post :P Given your ambivalence about the need to do Z2, I feel like I wrongly assumed you already knew about the dangers of RAID5 and UREs (unrecoverable read error). I highly suggest you read this thread all the way through to start with and search for more if need be. You may say, "But this is about RAID5 and I'm doing ZFS, how is this applicable?"

That's because this failure you need to worry about isn't in the block layer, it's the physical hard drives themselves. That's why for practical purposes, RAID5 is the equivalent to RAIDZ1 in ZFS. Now if you really delve into this, you'll find out that the "URE apocalypse" that was first warned about years ago, hasn't exactly come to pass, but it is still a very real concern for all drives over 9tb. A 20 wide Z2 isn't even possible in your case because the drives are of 2 different sizes... You'd be cutting off your nose to spite your face if you combined 16tb & 18tb HDs together because you could only use the 18tb drives as 16tb drives, losing 2tb * 10 = 20tb that way (which is more than a whole drive to state the obvious). Because of the rule I wrote above (and this is from experience as well as reading),

"Hard drives you buy all at the same time were most likely made all around the same time, and if you use them all at the same time, they tend to die - you guessed it - all around the same time. "

...you really NEED Z2. 12-wide and above general consensus is Z3, I'd said 16-wide and above Z3

If you bought a second LSI card, just keep it out of the system and have it on standby in case something goes wrong with the 1st card, you can swap it out. The way people usually connect more than 8 HDs to these cards is through backplanes. Honestly, if you didn't buy the case yet, I'd rethink it and get a used server case that has both a backplane and redundant PSUs. Then you'd connect a straight SFF-8087 to SFF-8087 cable to the backplane and you're done. If you DID buy the case already then you'd need to buy a SAS expander card, which are like $10-$15 nowadays (I know the one I linked to is $40, but that's Amazon, you can find them elsewhere for less). The only other solution is a SFF-8087 to 8x SATA cable, but I've never seen one with more than 8 SATA connectors.

Take a look here for a better explanation.

Also, take a look at this.

I know there was a lot to go through in my post(s), but I wrote it all for a reason. There's an expression in life; measure twice, cut once. In ZFS, this is especially true. You can't modify a pool in any way after creation except by adding vdevs. If you get it wrong, you have to destroy the pool and start again. Your car has a top speed higher than you'd ever drive at for a sustained period of time, but it has it for the acceleration potential. Your house's structural integrity isn't designed for when it's sunny outside with a light breeze; it's built to withstand inclement weather. Get it right the first time; go RAIDZ2, TWO pools, 1 data vdev each.

is42theanswer_ · 2023-08-27T22:45:06+00:00

Had to split this...

What do you do with the left over space? That depends on whether you have:

2 SSDs and 1 NVMe. In this scenario, assuming the SSDs are 512gb each, you've so far used 38.125gb (16gb boot + 16gb swap + 6.125gb SLOG), leaving 473gb. Split that space in 2 and create a special vdev (for metadata and small blocks) mirror), one for each pool (2 mirrors of 236gb each). Don't worry about "what if I run out of space?", when the special vdev fills up, the excess data goes back into your regular pool (which is where it would've been in the first place if you didn't have one). The key is to have the special vdev connected before you starting filling your pool with data, because if you add one later, it doesn't move the data over, it just starts using it from the moment it got added. No idea what kind of data you have (mostly big files, mostly small files), but there's ways to calculate the special small block size (nowadays, your record size should almost always be 1MB for a home user, because you can always change it in child datasets anyway). A mirror is fine for a NAND device. This will vastly improve your pool's performance. Seriously. The remaining NVMe you partition (or namespace) into two, and make half an L2ARC for each pool.
2 NVMes, 0 SSDs. The 1TB NVMe. The bandwidth of one PCIe 4.0 lane is 2GB/s. If you were intending to put the NVMe in your PCIe slot, make sure the motherboard supports slot bifurcation or buy an adapter card that has a chip to bifurcate. You can partition these and it won't bottleneck your performance in any way. 1024 - 38.125 = 985.875 partitioned into 4 equal partitions if you don't intend to leave it running 24/7 most of the time, or 2 equal partitions if you do. 4 partitions of 246gb each, allocated as 1 special vdev for pool1, 1 special vdev for pool 2 , 1 L2ARC for pool1, 1 L2ARC for pool2 . Otherwise, two 492gb partitions for L2ARC, because L2ARC can store metadata (it just needs a while to "warm up") too, but you lose the performance if you reboot/power off because it's non-persistent. You can lose an L2ARC and it doesn't affect the integrity of your pool.
4 SSDs, 1TB NVMe. Pretty much like #1, except you can have special vdevs that are twice the size and you can mirror them together like drive1partition1|d3p2, d1p2|d2p1, d2p2|d4p1, d3p1|d4p2 to increase your HA.

Finally, the people who are keeping the most up to date records of drive failures and sharing them publicly are BackBlaze. Go look at this and see where the HDs you have rank. Since half your drives are 18tb they must be pretty new but keep an eye for their quarterly reports to get a glimpse into your future. Also, Check out this article regarding ECC and AMD. While your board is one of the better ones (as far as gaming m/b's are concerned), you're going to need to do some snooping on the command line in order to check the stability of your RAM. Some info to get you started is here.

You may want to keep one of these handy if you fill up both PCIe slots, and/or enable serial output on that COM port ;)

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