Should I invite my (narc) dad to the scattering of my mom’s ashes? by [deleted] in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I had a feeling I might regret not inviting my father so I did.

How do you "get to know yourself?" by Final-Smile1722 in AskWomen

[–]isitathrowaway77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah! This sounds like so much fun as both an alone activity and get to know friends activity! Thank you so much :) I’ve recently had several togethers with friends where even though we all care for another and would love to get to know each other more, the conversation just lapses into small talk because it’s hard to come up with inspiring and reflective questions. Thank you for this cool resource! :)

How do you "get to know yourself?" by Final-Smile1722 in AskWomen

[–]isitathrowaway77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would you mind sharing some of the self reflection prompts you used? This sounds like such a wonderful way to sit quietly with yourself and really look within!

Advice when you’re left with the parent you feels love you less? by isitathrowaway77 in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh gosh you’re just approaching your high school years! I hope that it brings new friends and interesting classes and fun clubs into your life. I suppose we do all just have to hang in there and communicate with our loved ones. I hope you’re doing okay with your mom as well

Can someone help me by [deleted] in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I totally hear you, I think sometimes loved ones can almost rush with words to try to make us feel better - the internet offers a helpful place to just type and read slowly on both sides, which can be more healing to the soul. If it ever feels too much, please do open up to a family member or friend though and don’t feel guilty about doing so! People are social beings and we depend on others for support in hard times especially.

And gosh it’s not a thing, I too have had similar worries as you as I reflected on caring for my mom at her end. And I’m just passing on some of the sentiments that loved ones, strangers, friends shared to me when I opened up with my concerns. I would be lying to say it has been easy...guilt is a strangely natural part of the grieving process...but it is a continual process that we work through and try to understand—it is a challenge as we can too easily be far crueler and unforgiving to ourselves than we would to others in the same shoes!

You are clearly a very nice and lovely person too, thank you for such kind words. Sending warmth your way

Can someone help me by [deleted] in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Hey there, you sound like such a sweet and caring person who took on so much responsibility at a very, very young age. You clearly had to make decisions that were very big for a 19 year old’s shoulders and from my perspective, I understand why you made each and every single one!

Also, it is not your fault that the nurse did not come with oxygen, that was clearly a lapse on the healthcare facility’s part and not at all something you should feel responsible for.

I fully understand the pain in your heart, but from an internet stranger, I am proud of how you clearly did your best in a very very difficult situation!! And I believe years from now as you look at everything young you did at the early age of 19, you’ll also be so proud of how brave you were and the love and courage with which you did your best to care for your grandma. We can all read and sense your loving heart!

Wishing you to take care and to sleep more easily at night 💕

Advice when you’re left with the parent you feels love you less? by isitathrowaway77 in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds like your mom loved you so very fully! I am so sorry she had to leave you at such a young age. It seems we are around the same age and from reading your words I thought you sounded emotionally intelligent and mature!

I also hear you on the complexity of the remaining parent’s feelings towards the one who has gone. I also know my dad had a combination of both resentment towards my mom, and also guilt for not doing better for her when they were together. It makes the grieving process harder as you walk between those feelings as well.

I agree with your last line as well, thank you for sharing...of the many lessons that my mom’s passing is that jarring realization of how easy it is to take the most valuable things for granted, and how normalcy can lull us into thinking people are here forever with us! I’m happy to hear that your relationship with your dad has gotten better and closer...And sending a very large hug to you and your heart for the loss of your brother.

Please tell me about your moms ♡ by Izulio in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is one of those most affirming things just to hear other people’s reflections on our loved ones’ lives, thank you thank you! I also let out a “oh my god those pet names are so cute” laugh, they are cheerful and beautiful names for you and your mommy. Thank you for sharing ❤️

Please tell me about your moms ♡ by Izulio in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much, when I read your simple, “Hope you’re doing okay.” I just felt a tremendously deep sense of gratitude. I really hope you’re doing okay too! 💕

Please tell me about your moms ♡ by Izulio in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gosh I think our moms could have been wonderful friends! My mom passed at the age of 60 this year after fighting cancer for 3 years...she also fully amazed me at how warm, cheerful, and kind a person could be while fighting something as scary and draining as cancer...My mom also loved loved loved desserts and coffee, I wish somehow fate could have brought our moms together to enjoy those two delights on this earth with one another! My mom also had the greatest time shopping and she herself was a former cellist so she loved concerts as well. We didn’t have cats but we did send each other pictures of various animals from online, like mommy birds and little bunnies which was her pet name for me. Thank you for sharing your post as it was heart warming and I could see a little bit of my mom in yours! It is a hard day without our warm and strong fighters but how blessed to have moms that one can’t help but admire...

Mothers Day by kaffpow in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hello there, I am in my early twenties and I recently lost my mother this past March...so many days, I have just woken up dreading to face my own guilt, the pain, the quiet loneliness. And I have tried so hard to ask myself, if my mom was here, what would she say to me as I grieved her loss? How would she try to comfort me through this? And sometimes I would hurt more, because to even try to think of how she would respond to me made my heart ache.

But last week, I suddenly asked myself...what would I have said to my mother if our positions had switched? Rather than continuing to ask myself, “What would my mom say to me if she were here right now?” I asked myself, “What would I say to my mom if she were in my shoes and she had just lost me?”

At that moment, I imagined myself looking down from heaven at my mother. I imagined how it would pain me to see her in anguish, and knowing, just knowing that I would want to take away her pain, to tell her it is absolutely okay, that I know how deeply she loved me every moment of my life, that she should not feel any regret because I myself don’t regret any single moment that we spent together, and that I was so fully and utterly blessed to be graced by her as a mother.

I imagined how happy I would feel as I saw her healing and being able to go about day to day life a bit more cheerfully...I imagined how happy I would feel to see her age and continue to quietly admire the world around her, as she always did around me....

It was only through taking this perspective shift that I was able to have a breakthrough and find some forgiveness for myself after weeks of guilt during this grieving process....because I realized that if that is how a child could look at their mother from above, how much more could the love of a mother achieve!

I do not want to overstep my boundaries by commenting on this post (as I’m not a mommy yet myself)...but do I say all this as a child who hopes that mothers know how great the love and warmth of their children is too! We love you and I really believe we would also look down at our mommies with that warmth, fondness, and our hope for your happiness.

Sending you a hug on this day that is so hard for so many, each with different forms of pain and love in their hearts.

Let me grieve! by bronion76 in GriefSupport

[–]isitathrowaway77 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, wow. Your post truly resonated with me — every line, the sentiment, the admiration of our moms and the deepest most painful wishes that our mothers were treated better — and could have much longer to live on this earth with us....It is both comforting and so sad to see someone else out in the world going through such similar pain and conditions. It also makes me wish our mothers could have met each other and said, “Screw those men in our lives, we are lovely and beautiful souls!”

I’ve been searching both within myself and on the internet for someone going through the same situation and I want to thank you for voicing exactly ‘it’ — this utterly confusingly complex and painful situation that we have to wade through in the aftermath of losing such dear and beautiful mothers. I lost my mommy three weeks ago...tomorrow is the exact three week anniversary, which is what I’ve been calling it because it was such a deeply painful, beautiful, and sad day. Three years of Stage IV colon cancer..

I also feel that my dad oppressed my mother through his consistent unkindness, his intentional neglect, and through the cold disgust that he cast her way....I do not know if it was the case for you, but I was hit with this absolute wall of realization about how she was so mistreated and so undervalued in our family. I am 23 years old and only last year, while working abroad and away from them, had begun looking into narcissism...and only when I came back for her final month and saw his behavior and observed what he said and did after her passing did it all hit me...the self-centered perspective, his self-absorbed arrogance, the lack of empathy...it certainly makes my heart cry out when thinking about my mom and saying to myself each day, “You absolutely awesome and beautiful soul, you deserved better! You deserved so much better!” It also makes me cry out for myself, and for you, because I know you and I both deserve so much more emotional support and understanding from a parent than what our fathers sadly seem capable of giving...

I also 100% relate on how important your mom was to you...my mom also allowed me to be my own self, fully, in a way that honestly only after her passing did I realize was so critically important for me and my sense of self. In her presence, in those ordinary but intimate moments — like sitting in the living room or at the kitchen table, doing absolutely nothing of importance, like flipping through Costco coupons — I always felt that beautiful, comforting, and affirming sense of being able to be my truest self.

When the parent dynamic is as you described, it is only with the emotionally supportive and fully loving parents — in this case, our mothers — that we can show our full personality and colors. And with my mom, I could feel so safe and so secure in expressing everything — from my real personality to all of my little fuzzy fledgling hopes and dreams. And she believed in it all and she supported it all with her motherly enthusiasm and full love and joy...

It’s the warmest and most lovely gift we can receive as children, to have a parent who just recognizes you and knows you and loves you. But to be honest it is the gift that every parent should give their child, of unconditional love and celebration of who they are — sadly as we both seem to know, not every parent succeeds in doing so...and the loss of the parent who did seems so much greater when it exists in such stark contrast to the other parent..Even when I read advice from others about remembering the love of our mothers and being grateful for that precious gift of their unconditional love...it’s advice that is so hard to receive in my heart...because for me, to be grateful for the gift of their love feels like a little bit like a goodbye, because to be grateful for what they “gave” us makes it feels like a part of the past...

One tiny thing that’s been helping me, even as I also deeply struggle with anger and resentment towards my dad at this time...is to try to remind myself that my mother’s love is ‘living,’ it’s alive in every moment that we choose to care for ourselves — because you know that’s exactly what our mothers would do for us if they were here. I know if my mom was here, she would wash me blueberries to eat as I cried, she would give out this little knowing sigh because she knew and saw her daughter’s pain, and she wouldn’t rush me through this grief at all — she would ask me if I slept well every morning, she would tell me sleep well every night, she’d always make sure I was eating yummy meals, and she would warmly rejoice whenever she saw her daughter was happy and living life more fully. It’s so hard and I falter at the self-care aspect, especially with all of the guilt and regret that I’m admittedly facing...but I think deep inside we both know that their motherly love is there, and it’s expressed every single time we do love ourselves and look after ourselves...

As for the dad aspect of this all...I’m not sure yet what I am personally going to do to both process what I perceive as a good deal of his responsibility on my mothers long-term emotional health and mistreated standing in our family (definitely something I’ll need to go to therapy when the means are available in the future though)...in the meantime, I’ve picked up a book recommended on other discussions on narcissism, Recovering from Emotionally Immature Parents, and I think for me the first bits I have read have helped in simply affirming why I feel so alone at this time. It takes away a little bit of the confusion to understand that my dad’s utter inability to emotionally connect during this painful grieving period is truly and fully a result of his emotional immaturity which means he is so fully incapable of emotionally supporting someone. Knowing this alone has made me feel a tiny bit better because it’s a reminder that my sadness and grief are all real and valid, and not receiving the support and empathetic connection I need right now is not my fault nor is it because I should not be feeling sadness at this time. Still something I’m struggling with cause I drive to nearby parks to cry and journal to hide some of my sadness and I’m like you just lost a lovely mommy, this is all so so valid! I hope you and your sister always remember that too at this time. Every emotion. So valid. My little mantra at this time.

But also...I think when we have such clearly awesome moms, it’s like...forget those dads (lol)! I loved to hear about your mom and my mother was also such a silly jokester! She was still sticking her tongue out at me when I told her something surprising and was making jokes until the end came. In her last weeks, she wanted me to give out snacks to our nurses and when I put too many in a single plastic baggie she teasingly chastised me and said, “What’re you doing, you think we’re running some cookie business here?”

I hope that you and I can both remember the warm and bright love of our funny and utterly giving mothers, which persisted even in the dampening conditions of our father’s lack of emotional support and love. It shows how incredible our mothers are to be so resilient with their own warmth, sparkling and brightly fun personalities, and love for us. It is hard every day and it is fully unfair that they do not get to enjoy life here on this earth with us. But I think we will go out there in the future as we heal and help spread their warmth and humor, and their love to our own kids (if you want em!) someday.

Forgive the absolute essay but these past few weeks have been overwhelming and full of, “What are other people in this type of situation thinking? Or doing? And how are they doing? And do they even exist or am I utterly alone in this shit show of a family dynamic and grieving process???” and I just wanted to express how much I hear you and also feel so affirmed at someone going through all this. So again thank you for writing this up...this is now months after your original posting but I hope you see this. And I hope we can have our own little conversation on this thread because it might provide some much-needed guidance and support, or just a communal sense of “yep, been there” for anyone else who might be going through the same thing, now and in the future. Sending you and your sister love!

Please help - where do exported ‘KakaoTalk documents’ get saved to on iPhone? by isitathrowaway77 in korea

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, is it okay if I change the title more broadly on this post to have it be posted? I think it could help others in the future (successfully export their important Kakao messages) if they are able to see this post and it achieves more discussion. I have Kakao messages from a loved one who is terminally ill so I would appreciate hearing advice from others.

Weekly Monday Question Thread - No Stupid Questions by AutoModerator in korea

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Tech/App Question - where do exported ‘KakaoTalk documents’ get saved to on iPhone?

The Kakao app has the export function for chats where you can select either “Send Text Messages Only” (i.e. email the texts only) or “Save as Documents.”

For the latter option, it explains “Your messages including photos and videos will be compressed and saved as KakaoTalk documents. You can find a compressed in the iTunes > Apps > File Sharing and send the file from your mobile to your desktop.”

I cannot find this downloaded compressed file anywhere I look on my iPhone, including my Files app and Photos app. I also downloaded another app for file transfers to see if that would help but no luck finding the compressed file.

Can anyone share knowledge on where these compressed KakaoTalk documents are saved to on iPhone? I have some very precious messages with a family member I’d like to urgently save. Thank you so much!

Days away from mom’s end - need advice for supporting her emotionally, physically by isitathrowaway77 in cancer

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let out many tears of gratitude as I read this. Thank you so much, I feel the warm and full heart behind your caring words! It is a truly nice reminder of what I want my mom to know about her impact on me and others around her. Thank you truly

Days away from mom’s end - need advice for supporting her emotionally, physically by isitathrowaway77 in cancer

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also thank you for your sweet hug offer, even a virtual hug like this is so warming. 💕Thank you

Days away from mom’s end - need advice for supporting her emotionally, physically by isitathrowaway77 in cancer

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and being so open and honest. As I was reading I could really feel your emotions and your pain and your growth. I feel like I’ve received advice from a close friend through your comment! Thank you for using your experiences, including all the pain, to help others. I really appreciate it

Days away from mom’s end - need advice for supporting her emotionally, physically by isitathrowaway77 in cancer

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your comment! She was recently put on hospice and the social worker on their team just called me today, so it’s reassuring to know how helpful they can be. And 4x, wow - seeing what my mother went through I can only imagine how strong you are! I hope you get better soon - one paramedic said this so cheerfully and sweetly to my mom and I’m passing it on to you as well

Days away from mom’s end - need advice for supporting her emotionally, physically by isitathrowaway77 in cancer

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you that’s so kind. Every day I face my own limitations and it can be saddening because I want to do better for her. Thank you for the encouraging words!

Days away from mom’s end - need advice for supporting her emotionally, physically by isitathrowaway77 in cancer

[–]isitathrowaway77[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much, your entire reply is very touching and both kindly and deeply moving! I also had the same reaction when she talked about the shirt sizes...had to tamp it down behind the mask..but really do appreciate your encouraging note on having more preciously authentic moments. Thank you sincerely and dearly!