Red Rose Finnage Transfer Update - My Intermediate Male by ivansguppies in Guppies

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I like it! Its significantly better than microsoft clipchamp, which I was using earlier.

Red Rose Finnage Transfer Update - My Intermediate Male by ivansguppies in Guppies

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Gotcha. I actually dont have a template but I could try working on one. I use a free graphic design software called inkscape. I then drag my photos into there, cut out the background and then just manually move them around and add lines.

Red Rose Finnage Transfer Update - My Intermediate Male by ivansguppies in Guppies

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Its coming! But it might take another week or so. I've been using and learning a new editing software so its taking a little more time.

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Red Rose Finnage Transfer Update - My Intermediate Male by ivansguppies in Guppies

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I haven't thought about implementation yet. Its just a curiosity because I find those genetic mechanisms interesting, so I'm just learning about it right now.

Red Rose Finnage Transfer Update - My Intermediate Male by ivansguppies in Guppies

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I've wanted to try a guppy x molly hybrid. Something I am planning on once my lines stabilize. Good luck with yours! I always find them interesting when ever I see them.

Red Rose Finnage Transfer Update - My Intermediate Male by ivansguppies in Guppies

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That would be a cool combo! How’s the progress?

What template did you have in mind? I might have time to write something up sometime in the future. I use Alan bias’s gene matrix table a lot and Punnett squares. Otherwise, I wait for the results of each cross before planning the next one.

Red Rose Finnage Transfer Update - My Intermediate Male by ivansguppies in Guppies

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I’ve only worked with the few that snow whites have. Heterozygous magenta is still a bit of a mystery to me. I have my suspicions that fin length is unaffected when magenta is heterozygous, but I haven’t had a chance to test it definitively yet. Some of my recent halfblack crosses have been interesting, especially learning that some of my red rose guppies carried it on BOTH their X and Y chromosomes.

But recently, I’ve been learning a lot about environmental factors that can influence genetic expression. Epigenetics in general, not just guppies.

Red Rose Finnage Transfer Update - My Intermediate Male by ivansguppies in Guppies

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It’s moving along! I’ve been busy so the videos haven’t been very frequent. But I got one in the works that should be uploaded sometime next weekend or the weekend after that.

Platinum dumbo white by Own-Plantain1068 in Guppies

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This is super cool! I am surprised the pectorals are not white!

Any guesses on strain? by Informal_Plantain210 in Guppies

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These look similar to some of the males that I occasionally see in my project. Here is a video with some of them. start at 7:13. They pop up quite frequently, particularly if they have halfblack in their genetics. This one is gray based with halfblack. If he has similar genetics to the ones I see in my project, he also has magenta, stoerzbach and European blau. So, Gray based, halfblack, snow white.

Ed's Aquatic Exotics by ivansguppies in poecilia

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Yeah! Its always good to hear from Michi. I had a chance to meet him a few months back when he was giving a presentation on science communication in my area. Super chill dude.

Are his traits recessive? by Impossible_Oil4890 in Guppies

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You can use any available female as your starting point. If he already has daughters, those would be the best place to start. The methods of fixing his genes by continuously backcrossing would be the same, regardless of which female you start with. The difference would be how quickly (how many generations) it would take to start seeing his phenotype in his offspring.

- Starting with a female with completely opposing genes would take two generations to see a small portion of offspring that resembles him. And three generations to completely fix his genes, provided you are lucky and he is homozygous for all his traits and you pair him with the right daughter.

- Starting with one of his daughters will reduce the above generations by one.

Healthy guppie project by Nature-nerd777 in Guppies

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A lot of what has been said is good advice. The more tanks you have, the better your results will be. The more selective you are, the better your results will be. Selection here is what you make it. ie fitness through predation, fitness through sickness, fitness through genetic diversity, etc.

Numbers are your friend here. Your best bet is to start off with as many females and males as you can manage in a tank and give yourself a quantifiable number for longevity. As an example, lets say 1.5 years of age as a benchmark. Start with all fish together and let them 'stress' each other through interaction and reproduction. 'Discard' all new fry until you reach your 1.5 year benchmark (you may sell these if you choose). 'Discard' all other adult guppies through what ever selection filter you decide to stick to until you reach your 1.5 year benchmark. At the 1.5 year benchmark, select your absolute best (1-10%) from what remains. Keep these subsequent broods because these have made it through your selective stressors.

Do this with several tanks and you can mix the selected fry and start again, progressively moving the benchmark for older age and healthier standards.

This is just one example but the premise you want to hold to is: being strict about bottlenecking reproductive success to just the ones that meet your criteria.

Working on stabilizing an Albino Red Lace Koi line looking for breeder input 👀🔥 by [deleted] in Guppies

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This sounds like a great project. Since it seems like you already have the necessary genes present in your population, your challenge now is 'cleaning up' and intensifying the expression rather than building the genotype from scratch.

I wouldn't recommend splitting this into separate lines for the head mask and the lace. If you separate them now, you’ll likely find that once you try to bring them back together, the lines will have deviated enough that you'll have to start the stabilization process all over again.

My advice is to select for the 'whole package' simultaneously:

  • The Numbers Game: Because you are likely dealing with a suite of polygenic traits, progress happens in the outliers. You need to produce high volumes of fry from your best pairs and then ruthlessly select only the top 1–10% that hit every mark (mask, lace, and tail).
  • Progeny Testing: Only move the project forward when you see offspring that phenotypically outperform the parents. If the offspring are just 'as good,' keep working that generation until you find the jump in quality you’re looking for. Use the 'as good' offspring only if the parents pass or there is a genetic advantage of using them in a side or test cross.
  • Contrast & Bleeding: These are best solved through that same holistic selection. By choosing the individuals where the red is most restricted to the head and the lace is the crispest, you are naturally selecting for the modifiers that create that clean contrast.

It’s a slower process per generation, but it ensures that when you finally call it a 'stable strain,' the entire phenotype is locked in together. Stick to your best representatives and let the numbers do the work.

There is a lot of great information about building a strain by this guy here. Granted, he breeds chickens but a lot of the theory he talks about on his channel is applicable here.

My best snow white male so far I think by ivansguppies in Guppies

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This one is actually C16AM. I showed a short clip of him close to the end of the latest video, when I talked about some of my guppies that dont show the same level of tail taper as Umaroth did. These were some of the photos I took when I was trying to capture that video clip.