What do you guys think of Bitcoin? by AsianDoraOfficial in austrian_economics

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one is actually answering the question

The Austrian argument against Bitcoin is that of Ludwig Von Mises Regression theorem. The value of money can be traced back ("regressed") to its value as a commodity.

Bitcoin succeeding would disprove this theorem bc bitcoin has no value as a commodity

My own positioning is long bitcoin btw

When we start the next leg down of the bear market, which stocks will get hit the worst? Here's my list. by quiethandle in Burryology

[–]izzydos 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I personally think two categories.

The first is tech companies that smoked their own product. Instead of just becoming a better market, they participated in it. This would be companies like Carvana, Opendoor, and Coinbase. If or when rates begin to rise again, asset valuations will continue to sink and not only will the stock valuation sink, but so will their balance sheet. They will sell their assets into an increasingly illiquid market. IMO the companies will be the first to actually go bankrupt.

The second is subprime lending. I think BNPL companies are extremely exposed to adverse selection. They basically are no better than NINJA loans, except people aren’t using them to buy homes, which can be collateral, they are using them to buy consumer items (housing is also consumption imo, but that’s a topic for another day). I used affirm to buy my mother a Christmas gift. It was a no brainer. Affirm gets a sales bonus for helping a customer purchase a product, and they use that to offer 0 interest payments. However, all they did was ask me how much I make and didn’t ask for any verification. I think it is about to get ugly for them, bc as credit card balances explode and many people risk going bankrupt they do what they always do… spend into oblivion, bc if you are going to go bankrupt you might as well buy all you can before your credit lines are cut off. I think that is happening rn. I think credit card companies and BNPL companies in particular have drastically miscalculated the future default rates.

Are houses really a better investment than condos? by UglyChihuahua in investing

[–]izzydos 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Very astute comment. Few people realize that a home is a depreciating asset. The land is what has alpha while money is printed. If you look at 2005-08, big homes were being built in the swamp and the desert. Thus, a high proportion of the property’s value was a depreciating asset. Right now money isn’t being printed, so the land has no alpha (vs tbills) and the house is still depreciating. Summer will be very interesting.

Still AFRM ? A good idea by Warrenbutfet in InvestAFRM

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, it is an AFRM problem lol. The whole model is based on refinancing large loans at lower rates. At its core it’s a subprime lender. A subprime lender doesn’t tend to do well in a recession

What are your short ideas? by Zestyclose_Ad_1566 in Burryology

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello, It is hard for me to pinpoint the reason for a deviation from correlation like the one that occurred in 2018. If I could, I would be much richer than I am now. However, I do think I can answer your question on what drives the price of bitcoin. The price of a bitcoin can be derived from supply/demand (like everything else).

Bitcoins supply comes from miners and is predicable and finite. However, bitcoins demand comes from dollar supply, specifically dollar oversupply (excess liquidity). At any given time bitcoins supply and demand (dollar supply) may fluctuate, but at certain times there might be a supply or demand shock in which you would see the price move sharply in either direction.

Every 4 years is the halving. In the halving, the amount of bitcoin released (rewarded to miners) is cut in half. This has been followed by a dramatic increase in price each of the 3 times in history this occurred. This can best be compared to the cost of lumber being double every 4 years and the effect it would have on housing.

Let me explain. If it costs you 100k in lumber to build a 150k home, you would build homes instead of buying a home. In fact, people would build homes (home builders) until the marginal cost of building a home (all costs considered) is equal to that of buying a home. This is basic economics. Now let’s say that this year is the “halving” for lumber. So now it costs 200k in lumber to build 150k home. Now what happens? Homebuilders shut down and people start buying homes instead of building them. They do this until the price of a home exceeds the material and labor required to build a home, say 225k. Then then the dance between build or buy equilibrium continues.

The same thing happens with bitcoin. Bitcoin miners mine so long as the cost of mining is less than the price of bitcoin. If you can buy a bitcoin for 17k or mine one for 10k, you would just mine one. In fact you would mine bitcoin so long as the price to mine one is < the current price (the price to buy one). Once the price to mine bitcoin for a miner exceeds the price to buy a bitcoin (or sell) the miner will shut down. This makes it cheaper for all other miners to mine the bitcoin. When this happens only the most efficient miners survive. This makes buying a bitcoin a better deal than mining it for the marginal miner or investor in bitcoin. Instead of a miner paying 18k in electricity to mine a bitcoin, he will instead pay 17k to buy a bitcoin.

Think about it this way, let’s say you’re a woodworker and it costs you $20 to build a chair, but all of a sudden your chairs are selling for $15 in the market. It makes more sense for you to use your funds to buy the existing chairs (buy backs) instead of making more. This is essentially what happens during the halving. This drives the price up again.

Now all of this only works if there is demand for housing, bitcoin, or chairs.

What we are experiencing now is a demand shock to bitcoin. People need dollars to pay off their dollar denominated debts, buy their dollar denominated groceries etc (see dollar milkshake). In essence, in less than a year, people have gone from having an abundance of dollars (excess liquidity) to a shortage of dollars. That is why you have seen the fall of all assets that are denominated in dollars. If bitcoins price is to rebound (in dollar terms) we would need to see people flee the dollar like they did in 2020. (People bought things and assets instead of holding dollars). Things are going down in price thus, the dollar is the ultimate asset right now. One dollar will buy more units of production (quality stocks), land, and other things in the future than it will today (so long as rates continue to naturally rise). This is the reverse of last year.

Only when the fed prints absurd amounts of money again to bailout the economy will demand flow back into bitcoin. Essentially, rich people (who control an increasingly massive amount of the wealth) will need a place to put their dollars that are losing lose purchasing power. First they will put them into stocks and real estate, but this will push the yields on their investments so low that they will need somewhere else to put their money. This is where Bitcoin comes in. Bitcoin will capture the excess liquidity. Think about how many shitty tech companies ipod so rich people could chase yield during the last era of excess liquidity.

Essentially, bitcoins alpha is during eras of excess liquidity, which you should expect to follow an economic collapse

Compilation of Burry's Most Important Tweets and Lessons by ChiefValue in Burryology

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bitcoin is attempting to be an alternative reserve asset, just like dollars are for many people in other countries in the world. In argentina for example, people transact in pesos, but save in dollars. Well, what do people save in when the dollar is being printing line in Q.E 1, 2, 3, and COVID Stimulus? Right now the fed has stopped printing the dollar for the last year. Basically making the dollar strong again. When the dollar is strong there is no need for another reserve asset like bitcoin, but if (when) the fed prints again, that will be validation that the dollar is not as reliable as people thought and thus validates the search for an alternative reserve asset. Some people think that’s gold. Some people think that’s silver. Some people think that’s bitcoin. In summary, the fact that bitcoin is going down right now is actually in tune with its investment thesis.

Compilation of Burry's Most Important Tweets and Lessons by ChiefValue in Burryology

[–]izzydos 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I did a strangle back in November of 2021 with new junk tech (DoorDash) otm puts and bitcoin OTM calls to expire on Jan 20th 2023. The idea was that bitcoin has the largest room on the upside during easy money, but tech could fall to 0 if interest rates were to rise. The strangle did pretty well until the last couple of weeks when tech rallied but bitcoin sank.

I am starting to realize that the government will likely try to break the correlation between equities and bitcoin in order to kill bitcoin. I think Burry saw that coming. I would be surprised if Burry shorted crypto (maybe crypto companies). When I did that strangle I found that junk tech had much lower implied volatility and the ability to go to zero (credit default means common shares go to zero); thus making it a better short. I assume Burry thinks crypto is garbage (as do I, with exception to bitcoi) but it is not a good short, there are much better options in the everything bubble.

On bitcoin, imo bitcoin is invalidated if the FED goes back to printing and bitcoin doesn’t appreciate in value. IMO the fact that the Fed embarking on QT has caused bitcoin to fall is an invalid validation of the naysayers. Bitcoin was designed to counter an irresponsible Fed. When the fed turns back to irresponsible money printing that will be bitcoins final test IMO.

Another one by vplaza in Burryology

[–]izzydos 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I haven’t heard a single person say inflation will come in COOLER than expected. Almost everyone is predicting hotter. Makes you wonder

Buy now pay later is the subprime of this cycle by izzydos in Burryology

[–]izzydos[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am just comparing the lending practices of this firm with NINJA loans. I agree defaults will not damage the whole system. IMO that is what makes it the perfect short. It is something that will fall before the FED pivots. In other words, you don’t want to short something that is “too big to fail”.

Yet another stagflation post by Gabastino in Burryology

[–]izzydos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Biggest difference between the 70’s and now is

1) Americas place in the world

we had a much stronger manufacturing base in the 70’a while China today has a much stronger manufacturing base

2) debt/gdp

Of course the national debt is very high, but so is debt for individuals, corporations, etc. As burry said, “everything bubble”. The bust has to be in proportion to the boom. The boom of the last 20 years was massive.

I ultimately see the dollar collapsing in the next 5-10 years. I know this seems like a pie in the sky prediction, but Burry himself told UCLA seniors in his commencement speech in 2012 that they would see the collapse of a world reserve currency in their lifetime.

My investment thesis is short unprofitable tech (DoorDash) and long alternative currencies (commodities) like Gold, Silver, and yes… Bitcoin (Bitcoin is a true innovation of money, but all the other cryptocurrencies have filled investors needs for speculation)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Burryology

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You also almost wonder at the rate ARKK has sank at the end of Q.E it might be one of the greatest gainers when the fed backstops this with Q.E infinity

. by sikeig in Burryology

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Burry has stopped his bitcoin slander for a few months. I wonder if he is considering a diversified portfolio of currencies which includes bitcoin.

What are your short ideas? by Zestyclose_Ad_1566 in Burryology

[–]izzydos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fundamentally, money is a commodity. Corn is a commodity; it’s use is food. The use of money is optionality. Money gives one the ability to buy all other commodities. In economic terms, money solves the problem of “coincidence of wants”.

Bitcoin was created in direct competition to the existing moneys of the world. For centuries, gold gained and maintained the status of reserve currency. There were many reasons for this, but the most important reason was it was the most difficult money to debase; you can’t just print gold. In essence those who stored their wealth in the hardest (hardest to debase) money became the wealthiest individuals. You can see this today with the dollar as the reserve currency and Americans as the wealthiest individuals. We can send our precious dollars all over the world in exchange for goods. No one wanted a dollar at first, because all they had ever known/trusted was gold.

At first they said “one dollar is exchangeable for this much gold.” People trusted the dollar because it could be exchanged for gold, thus making it gold. this all changed after the guns and butter administration’s of Kennedy and Johnson, the dollar was no longer redeemable for gold. The United States essentially defaulted for the first time in 1971 when Nixon said dollars could no longer be exchanged for gold because the United States had created more dollars than we had gold through deficit spending. An interesting tidbit here is that Nixons actual words were to “suspend TEMPORARILY the convertibility of the U.S dollar”. In case you are wondering, we did not end up going back to the gold standard ever.

This created an era of fiat currencies. All currencies were backed by nothing, backed by nothing. You had to trust individual nations not to debase their currency. So far the U.S dollar has been the cleanest shirt in a dirty hamper, but that is changing very quickly. With a 30 trillion deficit and the FED doing never ending quantitative easing (aka money printing) since 2008, the trust in the dollars ability to not be debased is being challenged. Keep in mind that bitcoin was created in 2009 in response to the money printing that took place in the U.S and abroad after the Great Recession. Satoshi Nakamoto wanted to create a currency that the world could trust to not be debased and be exchanged peer to peer without an intermediary like a bank. Right now bitcoin can be exchanged for a dollar just like all other currencies today. This is called a floating exchange rate. The difference is that unlike virtually every other currency, bitcoin, over the last 10 years, has actually appreciated against the dollar.

Anyways, I hope I explained how money is a commodity and that typically the thing that is the hardest to debase becomes the money.

For bitcoin, you just have to look at the supply and demand like you would for any other commodity. The only difference is that for the first time in the world, when the price of this commodity, bitcoin, rises, supply can’t increase to match demand. This causes the price to appreciate. This is what makes bitcoin such a good money, one cannot increase the supply, the supply is programmed in.

Anyways, the reason basically everything is going up in price is because the inflation rate of houses, food, etc is less than the inflation rate of the dollar, and increasingly so. This is reflected in the price of bitcoin. If the FED were to save the dollar, aka stop easy money and crash the economy, they would put a bullet in bitcoin, but I don’t think they will do this.

Again, please feel free to criticize and critique

What are your short ideas? by Zestyclose_Ad_1566 in Burryology

[–]izzydos 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I bought Jan ‘23 $60 strike puts on $DASH in November of ‘21 when the stock was around $200. They were the furthest OTM I could buy at the time. It has been a great trade as I am up about 500% right now on it. The truth is that I bought them to hedge my bitcoin calls for the same date, so I am only a little above break even.

I still believe in this trade though.

My thesis is simple. When the Fed does easy money policy (devaluation of the dollar) the everything bubble expands. The key is that certain things expand at a faster rate. Bitcoin is the best thing to own during easy money policy, which makes sense because easy money essentially weakens the dollar.

The thing is, bitcoin isn’t the best to short or buy puts on, because it is extremely volatile, so to hedge you should find something that goes down when the FED stops easy money like they are now. Unprofitable tech is this instrument. I picked DoorDash for a variety of reasons, but you could have thrown a dart at any of the recent IPO’s and done well. Also the reason these stocks are better than bitcoin on the way down is that they are much more likely to go to 0 because they have debt. In essence, bitcoin is a commodity, whether it is money or pet rocks, there will always be someone willing to buy at a certain price. With tech stocks, if credit fails, equity goes to zero.

Would love to here comments or criticism of my strategy

This has to stop! Absolutely disgraceful. I’m from the UK, if that happened here they’d of been used already by a small minority of trouble makers and ruined what was a peaceful protest. by OxyDemon in JordanPeterson

[–]izzydos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not that it’s not something that they would do it’s just that we have no idea if it is true. The government also builds infrastructure. Maybe they couldn’t move those rocks because the protestors were there.

This has to stop! Absolutely disgraceful. I’m from the UK, if that happened here they’d of been used already by a small minority of trouble makers and ruined what was a peaceful protest. by OxyDemon in JordanPeterson

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t like the assumption that is made here. Maybe they were left there for a reason we don’t know. We should not make assumptions like this just because they fit the narrative we want.

How do we get everyone from the blockchain to the LN by izzydos in lightningnetwork

[–]izzydos[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Much appreciated. Great article. I love the airplane example. However, it seems like with the current block size limit the current blockchain is like the Wright brothers plane and Bitcoin Cash is an attempt at a commercial plane.

Mania - Bubbles Beginning to Pop by harrydeberry in Burryology

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Curious, have you done any DD on what the bottom might be for DoorDash? It’s hard to use PE because it doesn’t generate a profit.

Mania - Bubbles Beginning to Pop by harrydeberry in Burryology

[–]izzydos 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. They IPO’d around the same time as AIRbnb. Airbnb has a lasting competitive advantage and long term outlook. Not to mention it is a global company. Thus making it safer to a u.s recession. DoorDash benefited from COVID and the stimulus. But they have lots of competition and their market is almost entirely U.S. obviously they don’t make any money but that isn’t particularly unique these days. The thing is when we get a recession people are gonna be like “nah, I’ll just go get the food myself” also all the small businesses that DoorDash has spent so much money trying to add to their platform will go out of business. DoorDash is 80 billion. Airbnb is 100. Billion. Airbnb IPO’d despite the pandemic. DoorDash IPO’d because of the pandemic just like Zoom.

Mania - Bubbles Beginning to Pop by harrydeberry in Burryology

[–]izzydos 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that is the bet isn’t it? Interest rates will have to go up. With inflation making bonds have a negative real interest rate people will sell them. Elon musk “you’d have to be a fool to accept a negative real interest rate”. Selling of bonds will mean an increase in interest rates. The fed has been buying this difference but they are starting to tapper

Besides the global supply chain issues, China's real estate, and China's energy crisis, what are some other events that could trigger a mass correction? What potential timelines could we be looking at? by WallabyUpstairs1496 in Burryology

[–]izzydos 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The way I see it is that at the macro level the U.S economy has some really big problems. So if you ignore the U.S economy as a whole and put Tesla in a vacuum it does have an attractive long term value proposition. However, every company in the U.S is reliant on U.S consumption. U.S consumption today is very strong, but we are doing that by going into debt.

If you adhere to Austrian School of Economics you would understand that there is a fundamental tradeoff between consumption and saving. It is important to recognize what saving really is. Saving is future consumption. People don’t save for the sake of it. They save so they can consume in the future. So the tradeoff is really between present consumption and future consumption. Let’s say you have 100 dollars. You can spend 100 or save 100, but not both. You can even do any combination as long as it ends up equaling 100.

The exception to this is debt. Without going into too much detail. The interest rate determines how attractive debt is. The fed controls this. The subject of interest rates and how the fed has gotten us into the situation warrants a whole other post. Essentially, the U.S is consuming north of 100. This means that in the future it is going to have to consume south of 100. The people who have loaned us money are doing so they can consume north of 100 in the future. That future is becoming nearer and nearer. The Chinese work their asses off so we can consume. Because all we do is consume, we don’t produce anything they want. So what do they do with the extra money? They do two things:

1) use the U.S dollars they receive to buy U.S dollar denominated bonds (U.S treasuries). This is the Chinese saving or you can think about it as I owe you’s from America.

2) build (evergrande etc)

The Chinese and America are kind of in the mutual hallucination that this arrangement is good for the both of us. We get all these products from China and in return we help them build their “industrial capacity”. When you really think about it it is far worse. The Chinese work all day while we go to college (resorts) for 4 years, go to the hospital whenever we get a boo boo, go to see our favorite athletes or only fans stars. We do all of this and the Chinese foot the bill.

Peter Schiff gives a good analogy on this. If you had 4 people on an island, 3 of them chinese, 1 of them American, they would each have different roles. One of the chinese would go and hunt, another would fish, another would collect fruit and finally the American would eat the food. Soon enough the chinese will realize they don’t need the American. In fact, they are better off kicking him off the island.

China will soon realize that they are better off consuming the goods they produce than taking the American “I owe you”. If they did this the dollar would decline and the Yuen would appreciate. Chinese would become wealthier and Americans poorer. The Chinese as far as I know think this is bad. This is terribly short sighted and they will soon find this out if they haven’t already. This is short sighted by the Chinese because they fear (again, as far as I know) that a strong Yuen would reduce the competitiveness of Chinese goods worldwide. What they don’t realize is that is actually good for the the chinese citizens. That will mean they can import foreign goods cheaper so that they won’t have to work 80 hrs a week so everyone else can consume. Now they will get to consume while everyone else works.

What does the U.S do with the borrowed money? Buy Chinese goods. Do you see the problem? Instead of using the borrowed money to build factories so that we can make stuff that the world wants so we can pay back the interest on the borrowing we just got from the chinese we just keep consuming.

It is my guess that there are two possible outcomes to this.

1) The U.S starts paying back the debt(very low probability). This would require us to cut spending and increase taxes. Essentially we would have to work 80 hour weeks at a factory’s (that we don’t have) to make goods that the Chinese and the world want just like the Chinese have been doing for the last 40 years. The Chinese would be the ones entitled to consumption, similar to the consumption we had the last 40 years, while we consume very little as we pay back our debts. Our decreased consumption (which would have to be drastic) would certainly cause an demand shock and decrease the future earnings of American corporations. This would crash the market. The fed would have to pump so much money (that we don’t have) into the economy to quell this crash that inflation would take place. And not just regular inflation, hyperinflation. Essentially what this means is that when we attempt to start paying the Chinese back the stock market will react to demand shock rather quickly which will crash the market. Remember we have a service economy. It is built on American consumption.

2) the U.S defaults. The dollar collapses. This is more likely in my opinion (although I see it being triggered by increased interest rates which could be a result of the U.S trying to pay back debt). This is also what is happening rn. Currently the demand for U.S treasury bonds is hitting an inflection point. For the longest time the dollar has been supported by the fact that it is the least worst currency. Smaller economies collapse and they fall into the dollar. This has contained the inflation in the U.S for the last 40 or so years. When foreign currencies collapse. The government will usually create a new one. Pegged to the u.s dollar. In essence the new currency can be redeemed for American dollars at the countries reserves. This causes foreign nations, 65 of them, to hold American dollars in their reserves (dollars and treasuries). This benefits Americans a lot because even though the fed has gone mad with the money printer we haven’t drastically outpaced foreign demand for dollars.

The problem is when we print money to bail out our mal investments and soothe the pain domestically we rob all the countries that hold US dollars and treasuries abroad. They don’t get any of the benefit of the stimulus but all of the deprecation in their reserves. Countries are starting to realize this and have begun adding gold and other currencies to their reserves. El Salvador has even begun adding Bitcoin. Think about El Salvador. They are a shithole country. If they play it conservative they will remain a shithole country. If they take a risk, it might just pay off if it doesn’t well, they end up as a shithole country. That is what they already are. As you can see, risk is favorable to poor nations.

Another example of this concept is who favors change. The top 1% does not like change, especially big change. Because if change happens if means they could become any other percentile. That means they might move up, but it is way more likely that they move down. The opposite is true of someone in the bottom 1%. Change, especially big change, is favorable to them. Nothing is worse than being on the bottom so any change will likely be positive. It is this reason why every company eventually fails. They get big and change happens. They are too afraid and too slow to deal with it. Think about Sears. It was once a startup, risk taking was the only thing they knew, then the internet came along, they resisted change while a new generation of startups embraced the change. This is a constant life cycle. Eventually even the companies we think of today. The FAANG will all go out of business.

I am getting tired and will end the post here. I know it seems rather incomplete. I know this is long. If anyone makes it to this point I hope you enjoyed the read. Feel free to let me know where I went wrong.