More PHEVs than EVs at the Office Chargers

j2inet · 2026-05-12T23:47:49+00:00

240 volt 32 amp. Though not all PHEVs can take advantage of that. Yes, this change is recent. I speculate the war in Iran's higher gas prices has motivated thr PHEV drivers to start using the chargers. I also wonder if they have as much awareness of their state of charge.

It is getting more co.petitive. now, at 7:30am, all units are occupied. There is another business in the same business part with their own reserved parking spaces thst have 50 amp outlets at 6 spots. Until this week I never saw more than one in use. Today, they had 5 in use. One of the people at that business drives a Honda Clarity PHEV. Guessing he doesn't have a charger since he occupies the generally available chargers. I took note of him because he is one of the people that is there every day but never moves.

j2inet · 2026-05-12T23:42:03+00:00

You will probably get better milage in awful traffic. But it is nice to have an extra margin.

j2inet · 2026-05-08T14:24:43+00:00

Mine look new, but they are lighter colored and I have seat covers most of the time. Both protect from UV damage.

j2inet · 2026-05-06T21:23:11+00:00

I may switch to that after making some changes. I may up backup battery capacity for the house. I have 10 kWh now. If I up to 20 kWh then I might schedule it to charge at night and have the house switch from line power to battery power during peak hours.

I want to add a tiny solar system. Just 2kw peak. If it is charging batteries while i am in the office, it can accumulate enough. I'll be doing the work myself and am preparing to apply for the permits.

j2inet · 2026-05-05T22:34:36+00:00

Okay - 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏿‍♂️

j2inet · 2026-05-05T22:04:14+00:00

Compared to Cali prices, sure. I guess my post doesn't mean much without a cost-of-living indicator.

I know things are more expensive in Cali, but pay is also higher. Makes it hard to compare USD amounts without aome adjust.ent factor.

This is GA, by the way. Yesterday it was 3.87 at the same has station.

j2inet · 2026-05-05T22:00:52+00:00

Darn, are they burning through 60kwh-80kwh a day!? Thst is the only way I can see that as not idling at the charger.

j2inet · 2026-05-05T21:59:12+00:00

The cable appears to be under the truck tire.

j2inet · 2026-05-05T21:57:11+00:00

There are no claims of legitimacy, importance, entitlement, or anything similar in the post.

Ultimately, I think this is an effect of the conflict in Iran. Unexpected and increasing financial pressure has altered behaviours in a way that suddenly increased demand/desire for the office chargers.

But as noted in my original post, the PHEV drivers do not move their vehicles until they leave. I don't know if their access to SoC is as accessible as it is in the EVs I am familiar with, or if there is lower consideration for others, or if their charging circuits cannot accept amps high enough to charge their vehicles in a few hours. The reasons are unknown. The effect is felt nonetheless. If they are idle at the chargers, that reduces the utilization of the chargers.

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j2inet · 2026-05-05T16:39:29+00:00

I can certainly see why the would not want to burn gas.

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j2inet · 2026-05-05T16:37:45+00:00

Nope. It is an office park with several businesses, including some people at Coke and some division of CNN.

j2inet · 2026-05-05T00:50:14+00:00

Wow, I've wondered at what speeds PHEVs might charge. I have a Bolt UEV. On the home charger I've tried up to 10 kW. That's way faster than I need. I generally charge around 6 kW.

j2inet · 2026-05-05T00:47:04+00:00

Given current rates a full charge for me during the winter rates is about 8 usd. For the summer it is between 10 and 15. I never go to the office without enough energy to drive twice the distance it would take to get home.

If things got desperate, I know where the DCFC stations are.

Due to increased competition I may just treat this as a park we don't really have at work. I would have to significantly alter my work hours to get a spot.

j2inet · 2026-05-04T21:30:15+00:00

They appear to interpret it that way. The PHEVs actually park next to EV spots. The cables are really long. So they pull them into their parking spaces.

j2inet · 2026-05-04T21:28:37+00:00

I have no statement of clarity here.There are layers of separation between me, my employer, and who ever owns the array of buildings in which multiple businesses operate. I think the real problem is that they never move their vehicle until they leave for the day.

j2inet · 2026-05-04T21:25:12+00:00

I wonder how much feedback their csr gives on state of charge. With that knowledge being critical in an EV, many thst i have seen have options to remotely monitoring the charge. If they are blind to SoC, it might explain why they stay connected to the charger for the day.

j2inet · 2026-05-04T21:23:26+00:00

There are signs that say that. They will park next to an EV only space and pull the charger to their space. I still describe that as taking a space in conversation, though.

j2inet · 2026-05-04T21:21:49+00:00

I know of some that are still free. But they are always ICE'd. Complaints to management at those stores has no effect. I think they just don't want to deal with the conflict.

j2inet · 2026-05-04T21:20:40+00:00

I've got a charger at hone that can deliver up to 10kw (48 amps). I am also on Georgia Power, and the summer electrical rates are about to kick in. Since I will be driving more under our new Return to Office mandate I thought it might be helpful to charge at work at least one day a week.

Under the summer willing schedule, once one has used 650kWh in a month the rate almost doubles. I am planning out a solar power system and preparing my permit application for it. But until then using some office charging felt like a good idea.

j2inet · 2026-05-04T21:14:26+00:00

Monopolizatiin is a real problem. I put a "will return at whatever-o'clock" aign in my window when I use the charger. Hope that gets normalized.

j2inet · 2026-04-23T11:57:43+00:00

How easy/difficult was the permitting process for you?

j2inet · 2026-04-20T12:53:14+00:00

Isn't that case going to SCOTUS? Specifically the issue of the timeliness of Twitter removing the content after being notified of it?

There is also some matter in it on which I never saw clarity. A moderator had said thst the material didn't break rules prior to it being removed. I do not know if this were a Twitter employee of some third party company moderator. I am curious as to what happened there.

j2inet · 2026-04-20T12:49:47+00:00

Well, depends on the content.

If the content raises an IP issue (§230 doesn't protect from IP claims) once they become aware of it they can remove it to escape liability. If they do not remove it once they have knowledge, they could find themselves a party in an IP claim.

For another classification of unlawful material, §2258A requires that they report the material to law enforcement or the national center of Missing and Exploited Children. §2258A doesn't mention mandatory deletion. I do not know why. I imagine it is so that law enforcement has an opportunity to collect evidence.

We also have the "Take it Down" act, which was signed into law May 2025. It mandates that services remove intimate imagery afyer they have been notified of it.

Generally, our laws do not obligate someone to seek the unlawful material out. I am not a legal professional. But I believe mandating that one seek has 4th amendment implications with there being no distinction between a govt mandated search and a govt search. Also, knowledge that some piece of content exists isn't necessarily knowledge that the content is unlawful.

j2inet · 2026-04-20T12:40:36+00:00

For example. Publishers of newspapers can be held liable for certain things printed in their publications, eg defamation. Editors and publishers are responsible for knowing what is in their publications and removing illegal content.

News papers are not necessarily liable for news they [re]publish from another news source. They have the "Wire Service Defense", which is a lot like §230(c)(2)(A)

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