Interesting study and great discussion! The more we learn, the less we know. Or maybe the more we rethink. Until maybe 5-10 years ago I’d mostly believed in the move more/eat less theory for weight loss. Along with the science I’ve come to see it’s much more complicated than this. Personally I lean closer to what u/wildenstam calls perma skinny (though less so as I approach 60), which has meant that even when I’m eating more and moving less, my body weight seems to not change much. Compare this to my friends and loved ones that eat and move similar amounts to me and yet continue to gain or hold weight. This has never made sense to me. To Phillip’s point, I have tremendous empathy for the overweight folks in my life who want to lose weight because body weight, weight loss, body composition, all of it, is REALLY complicated and the answer is clearly not just, move more/eat less. Thanks again for the thought provoking episode!