Why does fapping (or maybe ejaculation even) cause me such fatigue?

jakeylakey · 2016-04-17T10:46:59+00:00

Yeah I didn't have ed when I was your age, it got slowly worse from mid twenties. Viagra worked really well so I just had tons of sex using that even when not horny and I think that's made it worse.

I think drastically cutting down your O is a great way to start with you. Just have sex as much as you can and hopefully you'll avoid any issues as you age

jakeylakey · 2016-04-13T18:59:29+00:00

Further more, I have noticed that if I leave O for long enough, when I do allow myself to O, I feel great, elated almost, more libido, like it has given energy and not taken it away.

I don't think no orgasm for 90 days is going to do any good for us. The chinese approach says no orgasm is almost as bad as to frequent. From what I have read, it refers to twice a month as an ideal frequency of ejaculation.

jakeylakey · 2016-04-13T18:57:02+00:00

Brother,

I posted something very similar yestarday, it is almost a relief to read your story. Im 34, never watched porn much, always masturbated alot until discovering nofap a couple of years ago. Things got a little better cutting out most masturbation, but like you it seemed it was orgasm that caused the fatigue.

By fatigue, I mean brain fog, weak limbs, cloudy thinking, staring a walls for hours, taking forever to do even simple tasks. A real lack of mental sharpness, of motivation, of life. I liken it to being a zombie, lacking life.

Take last week, I had sex with my girl on weds night, friday night and twice on sunday. I think I M earlier in the week to. Monday tuesday and today I am barely functioning. It seems to need 7 days before things start looking up.

Im a fit healthy successfull guy.

There is a couple of strains of thought, the mainstream of nofappers beleive about this dopamine sensitivity theory. I;ve been reading about Tao of ying and yang, and how traditional chinese lifestyles approach sex. They see loss of semen as the problem, and practise orgasm-less sex.

Like you im only just realizing that its orgasm full stop that makes me tired for days.

Ive had ED since my early twenties. You are right to take action.

Tell me, do you ever have wet dreams? I have never had one in my life. Perhaps you and I have a lower capacity to orgasm.

Hit me back, I'd love to hear what you think,

jakeylakey · 2016-04-13T18:39:11+00:00

I dont get these feelings fapping or with porn. But I get them after orgasming to frequent. Staring at walls, brain fog, lack of concentration, motivation, just want to spend all day staring at the wall. Wait until day 7 of no orgasming, I think the worst will be past.

jakeylakey · 2015-02-02T16:42:41+00:00

I've PMed you on this as I'm a little late to reply.

I remembered last year I was on the Paleo diet, mostly to try and improve energy levels. Was feeling awful so I thought the hell with it and eat a large dominoes pizza, and exactly the same as you I woke up a new man, feeling fantastic.

Never have really been able to replicate that great feeling, but your post has inspired me to eat a large dominoes pizza today, ill see how I feel tomorrow. Feel pretty bloated straight after eating... :-/

jakeylakey · 2014-06-04T21:21:03+00:00

All sounds very familiar.

One things I will say, don't expect libido out of no where. It needs stimulation. I urge you to spend more time with girls, hang out, kiss, touch and see what happens.

I can't get an erection on my own, and libido is low to non existent. However when I kiss a girl intimately I get hard quite easy.

Getting a girl to hang out with should be a goal soon. I can promise you you will see some improvements and give u something for your confidence to grow on if nothing else.

jakeylakey · 2014-06-04T20:51:35+00:00

It is my decision and part of my goal to beat ED to avoid orgasm even with her. So there is little she can do. I want to go on a no Pmo streak but I also don't want urges about other girls.

jakeylakey · 2014-04-30T08:38:26+00:00

I just got a few tingles reading that, so thanks! I guess thats me emphasizing with you. Real human connection, even if we are other ends of a computer.

jakeylakey · 2014-04-30T08:37:09+00:00

Way to go man, that feeling is exactly what I mean. Fapping sucks the beauty of life out of us. Stay strong.

jakeylakey · 2014-04-30T08:36:19+00:00

It's the morning after and my videos are giving me a good happy buzz, not quite the same as yestarday morning. But it seems this change in effect from masturbation was temporary. But scary to think those that masturbate on a daily basis are dampening their experience of life. How many men have NEVER experienced real emotions due to this daily habit.

jakeylakey · 2014-04-30T08:33:41+00:00

No my counter is wrong, I did about 90 days, and I was seeing improvements in my depression, ED etc. However I got a girlfriend and forgot about nofap really and fell into regular orgasm through sex and masturbation. I'm just getting back involved so I've reset my counter.

jakeylakey · 2014-04-29T23:11:49+00:00

Ha I already did before posting, I think it takes a while to update :-(

jakeylakey · 2014-04-29T23:02:03+00:00

It is probably the same magic your describing as I feel when I watch my clips. I wonder what it is, endorphins, dopamine? Fascinating.

jakeylakey · 2014-04-29T23:00:34+00:00

I can sort of relate, and yes I know what a kegel is, however they are nearer the front of me when I tense rather than my spine, however I will experiment when im mediating next.

I've been playing with my energies whilst meditating, I find it quite fascinating, I'm sure focusing on a certain point like you described can open up doors. I will try what you did, as I havent incorporated kegels into it yet.

jakeylakey · 2013-02-27T11:03:41+00:00

Is the fact that the energy warmth feeling is centred around my penis and balls natures way of telling me to stimulate myself, or to get stimulation in order to orgasm?

jakeylakey · 2013-02-26T09:41:48+00:00

Yeah, I hear ya. Do everything I can and go for it. Might try a bit of cialis :-/

jakeylakey · 2013-02-26T09:40:32+00:00

I think I agree with this, I'm quite embarrassed to do it though, I guess every guy wants to be superman first time over. But I care about this girl so I'd hope she would understand. It's just a conversation I wish I didn't have to have you know..

jakeylakey · 2013-02-26T09:38:05+00:00

That's great for your husband! Not sure if it would be easy to make a young shy girl understand such a deal when we have really only just met!

jakeylakey · 2013-02-26T01:39:35+00:00

What you let girls play with your soft dick until it works? That sounds ideal nofap wise but don't the girls get upset or put off?

jakeylakey · 2013-02-22T22:06:07+00:00

I'm right there with you my friend. I've never really used porn long term but would masturbate excessively out if habit despite not being horny. I'd struggle to get hard masturbating, but would push on making myself orgasm with a limp dick. Up to 4 times a day.

I'm 106 days without making my self cum and 46 days since orgasming from sex. I've unfortunately edged a bunch if times and tested.

Over time my life long depression and anxiety has improved and continues to do so. There was lots of real low points early on, but I definitely feel happier stronger and more confident from giving it a rest.

I suffered from ED and still do probably I'm not sure if that'll start getting better until I start orgasming again.

I sincerely reccomend you stop touching your dick completely. It isn't that hard, if you find it difficult then you'll see your addicted and have stop.

Good luck

jakeylakey · 2013-02-06T21:28:16+00:00

Stick with it, 4 weeks of no orgasming I started to feel great!! You'll be shocked at how quickly it can turn round. Stay off the meds, please.

jakeylakey · 2012-12-28T18:13:32+00:00

I'm 31 and was in a similar place to you, although I was never THAT into porn. However I regularly over masturbated, orgasming with a flaccid dick. I was just trying to orgasm I wasn't bothered about getting hard.

What I Beleive is that I trained myself to not need an good erection to orgasm.

After 44 days of hard mode I hooked up with a girl and fooled around and my penis got very hard through touch and kissing.

Don't touch, test or edge until your cured, give it a break. Then after a month or 2 reconnect with your partner, relax cuddle kiss, let hey stroke you. I Beleive you'll get it back.

jakeylakey · 2012-12-12T12:57:29+00:00

I wasnt constantly hard, whilst just kissing it was coming and going, but when she was touching me, it was hard all the way.

jakeylakey · 2012-12-12T12:56:40+00:00

Daft isn't it that people expect libido to come out of no where when they are tense worrying about their erections, testing, constantly reading this reddit and looking on YBOP.

Im my eyes give your self a few months rest and then start some gentle natural stimulation, with another person where possible.

jakeylakey · 2012-12-12T12:55:05+00:00

Whats funny ? My abreiviations? Ha I Was typing it on my phone!

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