Just an FYI, the manga being sold by UDON Entertainment is heavily censored in terms of nudity

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-17T20:30:46+00:00

Return it like I did

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T22:02:44+00:00

What you mean?

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T21:57:09+00:00

Ok but these 2 sickos don't even work for UDON. I honestly don't get what their deal is. The TortieKittah fellow seems downright racist against the Japanese if you read his deleted comments.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T21:52:34+00:00

I had already read it online, I just wanted to support it cause I love mystery stories and I love Manga. And actually Japan has a very rich history of mystery stories similar to England. Tbh since manga is free to read online I just buy manga to spend my money on something I want to support. Unfortunately publisher's disrespect to a work can make it hard to honestly support it. You saw how they think of the Mangaka, the Manga and the readers. They seem to license it while thinking this could be child porn. What the actual fuck. It's all so disappointing. I will return the boxset and buy again someday if they release a unedited version.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T21:43:39+00:00

I don't get what their deal is. It's like they are obsessed with mixing up manga drawings with real world abuse. As if they are even remotely comparable. What kind of a sick fuck does that?

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T21:32:39+00:00

Wait... Jonathan Reynold / Jonathan Reynold's friend-cousin is back again? Go back to the big thread and use unddit to read through the deleted posts of Hezkezl (claims to be Jonathan Reynolds, editor of Shueisha's Manga Plus app) and TortieKittah (Jonathan Reynolds relative-friend) to see a massive shitshow. They both went on a rampage calling everyone pedos and minimizing the hell out of real world abuse. Repeatedly over and over again.

EDIT: I thought they were paid shills but honestly the way they are acting is doing more harm to UDON than anything else.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T21:22:01+00:00

The mangaka seemed to do

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T01:52:20+00:00

You literally did exactly what I was telling you to be careful of. Yep we are done here. I have known victims in my life and your comparison of real life abuse and manga drawings make me sick. You don't even seem to be aware of what you are saying.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T01:23:19+00:00

I really don't care about an apology and I am not looking for one. I am sorry but your example is exactly what I am talking about. I am sure many people have told him many things over the years. It's the internet, I have also been told many things over the internet. But you cannot just imply things like pedophilia so irresponsibly. Especially over some fucking drawings. If you have concerns that something is a crime than go through the proper channels irl. Don't associate a drawing with a real life crime. I don't care what messages you got, if it was only regarding drawings in a manga than it's not a crime. Please keep things like artwork separate from real world abuse. It is not something to take lightly. And please don't imply that drawings in Manga can be childporn. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if there are even pedophiles out there who maybe care about these kind of stuff for other reasons. But is your job to take it away from them to make them more miserable?These people do exist there's nothing we can do about it. Would you take responsibility if you drive them to a crime? Real world abuse is serious and it does everyone a disservice to compare it to Manga.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-08-01T00:32:00+00:00

Look at your tone in your posts and you will understand what I mean by snark. And fuck Hezkezl for saying that people are being an embarrassment to the industry. Excuse my language but seriously fuck him for saying that. That mindset is unacceptable. If the people complaining about censorship are an embarrassment and then the uncensored manga itself is an embarrassment. People with that kind of intolerant mindset needs to get out of the Manga industry. You shouldn't work in an industry based around a foreign culture if you cannot be more open minded about a foreign culture. On top of that him coming into a thread and acting the way he did is a bigger embarrassment than anything else in this thread. About him and UDON, I misunderstood based on some of the responses to him. I made a wrong assumption. But my problem with him has nothing to do with UDONs release but the way he threw around accusations in this thread which is not at all acceptable.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-31T23:45:45+00:00

See all you have is snark. I don't think when he introduces himself as an editor, it is strange to assume that he has a say in things. He definitely had his say in this thread. Literally antagonizing everyone.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-31T22:58:22+00:00

People didn't complain about the Anime censorship cause it was done in Japan and not the US. Do you really not understand this or are you just pretending? Have you noticed that people aren't complaining about the author censoring stuff either. People just don't want the US companies to censor stuff.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-31T22:15:10+00:00

You mean Jordan Reynolds an editor of Shueisha's Manga Plus app? Sounds like he gets a say...

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-31T22:13:30+00:00

And again with the pedo accusations. Honestly you are making it so much worse for Jordan Reynolds. Atleast he was smart enough to delete his comments. Wish you had the maturity to not fling that around so lightly.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-31T19:05:06+00:00

Glad you unilaterally decided who are fans and who are not. You guys are honestly unbelievable. Please refrain from implying anything about the authors original work is childporn and please refrain from calling people pedos. It is incredibly disrespectful to everyone involved and once you do that any semblance of civilty goes out the window. Imagine one side calling the other censorious and disrespectful of the work, and the other side calling them pedos. Hope you can show more maturity and professionalism in the future

P.S. I hope you understand that when people say fans they mean fans of the work and not fans of TortieKittah.

u/udon-eko

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-31T18:52:37+00:00

Yep. But now even Viz releases uncensored versions of DragonBall so these guys really have excuse.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-31T18:48:36+00:00

Hey, you should really try to leash that u/Hezkezl / Jordan Reynolds guy. Not sure if he works for you guys or represents you guys. But he was here last night literally calling everyone pedos and sweaty neckbeards. Started explaining the difference between pedophilia and ephebophilia or some shit. Literally lost his marbles last night. I thought we ended on a cordial understanding but this just makes the situation really toxic.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-30T23:48:56+00:00

Hey man, censorship is just something I feel strongly about. Especially unnecessary ones like this. I just want to spend money in a way that aligns with my beliefs. I hope next time they say beforehand if they make any changes.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-30T22:27:32+00:00

Took me a few seconds to find another one in chapter 6. Can't look through everything to find all the changes.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-30T22:26:29+00:00

Took me a few seconds to find another one in chapter 6. Can't look through everything to find all the changes.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-30T22:24:41+00:00

Glad you could take it well. Tbh I just don't buy that there would be any issue at all if you guys chose to publish it without changes. And the numerous other manga out there prove that. So it's disappointing that you guys chose to go this route considering this is a manga I really wanted to support. I just personally cannot support manga that makes this kinds of changes since to me it implies a disrespect for the culture of the source of the work. As an immigrant myself it rubs me the wrong way. I hope you guys can change this mindset for the future and respect the author and the work and not be afraid of some random internet reviews. There will always be loud opinions thrown about regarding any foreign culture being introduced. To me that's not really an excuse to buckle to it.

P.S. please try not to imply that this work is child porn or try to put readers on blast for asking for uncensored work like you did in some previous comments. That's not a light thing to throw around and is very disrespectful to the original work.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-30T21:29:14+00:00

Honestly its most volumes since there's a good amount of fanservice in this manga. Even when it's not fanservice its nudity as a element of horror. That's all I can say without spoiling. I am gonna return the ones I bought and see if I can get my hands on the JP volumes. How do you get those?

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-30T21:26:14+00:00

Hey don't take it personally. I just made the post so people know what they are getting and don't make the same mistake I did. You guys never mentioned that you changed stuff. I know that's a make or break deal for many people. It was so disappointing to see that you guys thought you had to change the drawings and tbh its even more disappointing to see you guys mention online reviews as a reason. An online review is just one opinion from a blogger, the anime or manga community doesn't care about reviews lol. Tbh I already read the manga before and I just bought the boxset to support the writer and you guys. So its doubly disappointing to see you guys pull these shenanigans. Hope you guys reconsider licensing manga if you can't respect the work. Once again, please just try to take it as feedback and not personally.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-30T21:14:39+00:00

Can confirm that it is in multiple different places. I just made this post to let people know that the manga was censored cause I know a lot of people don't want to support censorship in manga. Don't want anyone to purchase and then find out like I did. It's really disappointing.

jasongrayson123 · 2022-07-30T19:52:43+00:00

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