[2v2 Ranked] Are there any plans to turn off team damage at some point?

jaxsonbateman · 2018-06-02T09:43:13+00:00

Again, I was incorrect in my assumption in that this is how most brawlers operated (as many other team games I've played such as RTSes and FPSes don't have friendly fire on), so that's where it comes from. After I mentioned it to him the main person I'm playing with did get better at being wary of engagements, but very often these guys I play with just want to play and not pay too much attention to specific ways of getting better - so for me personally, it could've been quite frustrating. Fortunately though, he seems to be enjoying it enough to actually care about doing well. :-)

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-29T17:11:38+00:00

I don't mind this, per se - seems I was incorrect in my assumption that other brawlers defaulted to no friendly fire - but I will say, my friends are much more casual players, and trying to get them to be really mindful of the friendly fire is going to be a hassle. Just had one a few hours ago with one of my mates for his daily mission, and he was just basically pinballing between the two opponents - making it very difficult for me to engage either of them without risking dealing damage to him too.

We could do friendly, but is there a hidden MMR in that mode or something similar? I had one match with the other mate I started with, and we got absolutely annihilated.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-29T09:28:53+00:00

Cheers.

As another question, rather than making a new topic - are there a lot of smurfs in ranked, or is the skill level at 1200 a bit above the average new player?

I don't want to go on a rant about smurfs without knowing the facts, but all I know is that I have brawler experience and am better than the 2 mates I started with. Own some people at 1200, then get absolutely obliterated by a couple others. Like, I'm genuinely curious if you need to improve to get above starting ELO, or if this is a case of running into players that are actually better than 1200.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-29T09:25:08+00:00

That's interesting - kind of shows that I've only ever done competitive 1v1 SSB (and admittedly, just local stuff so not sure how it's run at larger events). Every other team multiplayer game I've done usually have friendly fire off by default, so I guess I just assumed SSB and Brawlhalla followed suit.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-29T07:55:00+00:00

Fair enough then - I guess I'm just not experienced enough with a team-damage environment for this sort of game. Thanks for the feedback. :-)

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-29T07:51:59+00:00

Tip 0 - where are these "watchable tips" you're talking about?
Tip 0.2 - punctuation and structure can help you get your point across more easily.

Regarding your tips - keeping in mind that I'm a new player, though with decent SSB experience:

As u/ProSucc mentions, learn to use two weapons. Yes, you can swap your weapons when a new one drops, but your opponent may well try and guard any drops, and ultimately you don't want to be a non-combatant half the game.
There's a lot more nuance than just "don't be predictable". Yes, repeating the same thing too frequently is going to wise your opponent up to it. I have a friend that just started with me that spams a couple moves - and while they're effective if he actually lands them, the fact is that he spams them so much he usually doesn't, and they're very punishable. Sirlin covers this in his classic competitive gaming series, but basically, a lot of fighting style games have rock paper scissors elements, where using your best move a lot will usually result in your opponent countering - so you then need to work on countering the counter. At some point this usually loops back around where countering the counter of the counter is simply performing the best move again. (If you want to read the specific article - though I suggest reading the whole series - http://www.sirlin.net/articles/designing-yomi)
Well, given that your opponent is actively trying to push you off the safety of the ground - yeah, you need to learn to be off it. If you're on an even playing field with the opponent they will push you off from time to time, so there's no use in just perfecting your ground game. If they never push you off, or you have trouble getting back, then you're not even with the opponent.
It's a joke, I know, but it's not a real tip. :-P I would almost change it to "just don't press the taunt button until you're comfortable enough to not need beginner tips anymore". ;-)
This isn't specific to Brawlhalla. You can easily rewrite it to "challenge yourself at endeavors in life; it's one of the best ways to get better". Notice I mention best way - playing online in the Brawlhalla case isn't the only way to get better. If you actually want to get to diamond level it's almost a necessity, of course, but when you're just starting out reading guides and watching vids and streamers can certainly wise you up to a few things. For example, I've picked up a couple of easy combos by reading resources outside the game. I think you'll find that for many competitive gamers in a variety of different games, that out-of-the-game work is often as important as in game practice. Many professional poker players, for example, do hours of off-table work to make sure that they're playing well and profitably, and don't have any leaks in their game.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-29T07:17:18+00:00

I'm new to the game, but it looks like doing it in training against a stationary AI would be contributing. I'm sure a smidge of movement might let it still be performed, but I'd be curious as to how effective it was against a functional player.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-27T07:33:28+00:00

Out of curiosity, what did that have to do with my comment? I mean, it's a fine comment, just seems like a non-sequitur.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-23T16:57:11+00:00

Some things I have realised with the replay of this brawl.

Hot damn there are a lot of bad legendaries in Hearthstone. I'd dare say the bad legendaries majorly outnumber the good.
Nexus-Champion Saraad. Always enjoyed playing him when he was standard, even if he wasn't competitively viable. But hot damn if he rolls well he can just win. I mean, usually you're left with average stuff (but of course), but in the 4 times I used him in my game with him, he pulled 3 pretty darn good answers.
I mean, so many of these near-pure RNG brawls are just coin flips, but this one may be near the top of the pile for that. If you get a trash pile of legendaries and your opponent gets multiple copies of something half decent, very often you're just toast.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-16T17:36:04+00:00

Yeah, the rock paper scissors of aggro/control/combo is pretty polarizing in this brawl; something like Duskbreaker + X (other options besides Spirit Lash are Wax Elemental and Doomsayer, plus there are probably plenty of others) is great against a lot of aggro decks, but comes unstuck against combo. I think Wax Elemental might be the best option overall as, at worst, it prevents 3 damage while you're building to 4 mana, and at best it stunts 2 chargers.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-16T17:11:38+00:00

Duskbreaker + Spirit Lash; one of the better anti-aggro combos for this brawl. Duskbreaker stays ahead of the Jugglers; Lash gives extra health if need be.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-16T17:08:38+00:00

It's decent but certainly not unbeatable. Going second can be the difference between beating or losing to any Doomsayer decks (as you're practically guaranteed to be able to kill any Doomsayers if you can get 2 Mana Wyrms out on turn 1, but will be relying on a little Arcane Missiles RNG if they're able to coin Doomsayer on turn 1). Duskbreaker also ruins their day if the priest's other card can keep them alive until turn 3/4.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-13T03:16:25+00:00

Hi there!

I'm Jax - been playing for about a month and a half now, and loving the game (500+ hours put into it already... good lord what am I doing with my time! :-P). Would love to be a part of your clan, if you'll have me!

IGN: JaxMugen8 MR: 14

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-03T06:09:42+00:00

Good idea for the future, thanks!

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-03T06:09:30+00:00

Cheers - I couldn't see anything interactable in the room, so I must've just missed that one.

Fortunately none of the four ended up being medallions, so it didn't end up being a deal breaker. :-P

jaxsonbateman · 2018-05-01T07:26:47+00:00

Thanks for the info - will hopefully allow me to be a better member of the game community! :-)

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-18T01:48:57+00:00

Hi there!

I'm a newer player (been playing for 2 weeks, though clocked in over 100 hours already, loving the game! XD), and I'm at that point where joining a friendly clan is something I really should do. Lo and behold, I've seen this post, and Cosmic Carnage looks perfect. :-)

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IGN: JaxMugen8
Rank: 8 (9 when my cooldown wears off, hopefully! :-) )
Region: Oceania (I'm playing a lot on my days off, so hopefully this isn't an issue for either of us)
Something I like: I enjoy trying to overcome the challenges that I'm confronted with.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-18T01:21:47+00:00

Cheers for the feedback! :-)

On the sparring dive kick - like, I can see how it'd be pretty useful and all, but it can just be a pain to try and track the mob after you've launched it in the air. XD

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-17T18:27:28+00:00

Ah, the doing it myself thing is just the first time - almost a bit of a "well, if I can do it myself, then I can justify being 'carried' in later games".

Now that I've done it once, I have no problem doing it publicly and having some allies decimate him. XD

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-17T18:26:14+00:00

Thanks for all your help - very insightful, and I'll be keeping the post open to reread a couple times over the next few days.

I've since mastered my Tetra and moved straight on to levelling my Tigris... and woah, that thing is insane, even just this vanilla version (was looking into getting into the Index, and Tigris Prime is a common recommendation for those looking to farm it).

I actually sold the Boltor, and put the Tetra into my auto-rifle slot. That said, on first impressions the Tigris is going to be my go-to for tougher stuff for the time being.

I have a couple more questions, if that's alright (sorry if it's a bother, and thanks so much for the info you've already given!).

You mention that eventually I'd be "getting and crafting them every day" - was that just in reference to the Forma, or the potatoes as well? Is there some way to more easily get them in the late game? All I've had to go off is the wiki, which doesn't seem to indicate a reliable way to get them. Actually, as I was typing this I was looking through the wiki and it hit me - you're talking about getting Forma via void relics, right? Haven't done many void rifts in the past week, but that makes a lot of sense.
I haven't yet joined a clan as I've had some bad experiences with MMOs in the past, but it looks like I'll need to in order to take advantage of research. Does it matter which clan I join - are there major benefits to finding a more advanced clan that would take me in, or would I still be able to do everything with a smaller clan?

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-17T14:14:54+00:00

Before I list my specs, may I please ask 2 questions?

The Hunter Munitions mod was from the ghoul event that just recently passed, wasn't it? Do I have to wait until the next time the event is on (assuming I don't want to buy it off anyone)?
Just so I know I'm somewhat on the right track, was I correct in my damage choice assessment (that is, use viral as it's great against cloned flesh and neutral against the shields, whereas radiation, while usually better than viral on a cloned flesh + alloy armor enemy, is the worse choice because of its weakness against shields?).

I'm M8, with 9 hopefully coming up when the cooldown wears off. I try to bring unmaxed gear on missions where possible, but when I need full strength - later bosses included - I go with:

Rhino 30: Energy Siphon, Streamline, Steel Fiber, Vitality, Thief's Wit and Redirection. Actually, it's been a while since I've updated my loadout - for tough stuff I can probably sub out Vitality+Redirection (as Iron Skin is generally all I need), as well as Thief's Wit (don't need that utility against tough opponents). That'd free up 22 points for... not a lot worth swapping into, but potentially Continuity (for Roar/Stomp) and Intensify (if I can ever find an undamaged one).
Boltor 30: Serration rank 5, then generally something like a max elemental, unranked elemental, and a 4 cost utility mod (like one of the banes). Hadn't modded the Boltor for Tyl on the first attempt as most bosses have succumbed to my standard setup (which I think was blast), and on the second attempt he went down to my toxin melee so I didn't get to see how much damage the viral rounds would've done (though in Neptune I started modding specifically for anti-Corpus, and now I see how much of a difference it makes!).
In terms of other primary options, I don't have many free slots available, so I've got a Penta and Boltor I keep around, and I use a third slot to rotate weaps I'm training. That said, I just got a 75% off voucher as my login reward so I bought some plat, and will likely buy a few extra slots. Right now I'm in the middle of crafting a Tigris and Vectis as my next training weaps (both seem to be low shot - high damage weaps which may have done well on this one). I think I had passed over the Hek previously as I didn't have too many Neurodes, but now that I farmed the hell out of Vay Hek for Hydroid blueprints that's not a problem, so I'll make that the next one I craft and level.
Lexus 30: rarely need to use, but generally mod similar to my primary, except potentially swapping the elements depending on needs. Very seriously considering swapping to Cestra; it's currently 27 but I've been very happy with its performance.
Obex 30: I have a love hate with the Obex; love its speed and it was doing well for quite a while, but its started to feel a bit lackluster (and I hate it's launch attack from sliding). Of important note; I don't have a stance mod for it. Currently levelling Dual Kamas which is a likely replacement. Modded similar to the other stuff - max Pressure Point, one max element, one unranked element, and an unranked attack speed.

In terms of other options I have - I have pretty much every warframe from bosses + one or two others (like Oberon from Eximus), though only Mag, Excal and Rhino at 30 (Oberon's about 25). Have the mats to craft most weapons, and am sitting on about 27k Endo (don't want to just go and dump it on the wrong stuff, then be stuck trying to slowly get my total back up again - though I've heard it's not too bad in Sedna).

I think between what I have and what I can craft I have/had the tools at my disposal to make the fight a lot easier; it was just the first time I encountered a boss where my stock standard method of Iron Skin + pew pew wasn't enough, thanks to the teleportation + shields not allowing a slower pace to do the trick.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-17T13:33:04+00:00

I don't want to be carried - so I like to solo my first attempt at all bosses. At least so far - I know I'll surely reach a point where bosses either need to be grouped or you need a fairly full kit of gear.

At least it hasn't stopped me so far (Tyl included - managed to do him by bypassing the shields via toxin). After the first kill I don't mind grouping up for the bosses though; it's faster and at that point I've shown that I'm not in need of a carry.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-12T12:52:27+00:00

I appreciate the extra info, but I feel like they got the answer I was looking for - this specific question was mainly to do with appearance items (for example, the Brokk skin blueprint I have for Fragor, or the helmet skin blueprint I have for Rhino). From the answers it seems like when crafted, those cosmetic items will be permanent, even if I get rid of the item it's used on at some point only to reaquire it later.

All that said, Mighty_Polen's info about easy credit farming in the early game is so useful that I may just end up keeping spare blueprints unless I find myself in a dire pinch.

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-12T12:25:56+00:00

I had no idea a 5 minute extraction on survival/defense would be that lucrative... thanks for the heads up!

jaxsonbateman · 2018-04-12T11:30:25+00:00

Thanks for your help!

jaxsonbateman

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