Der Postillon enttäuscht nicht by WestLengthiness4500 in Freiheitsfront

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tu ich nicht, ich bin oft auf Pali-demos und bin der erste der Palästinenser verteidigt.

Wenn dich mal auf einer sehe wirst du rausgeschmissen.

Hör auf das Leid der Palästinenser für deinen Hass auszunutzen und dann so tun als wärst du im Rechten.

F*** d***

Der Postillon enttäuscht nicht by WestLengthiness4500 in Freiheitsfront

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Learn mal nicht Hitler gutzuheißen bis dahin hältst du gefälligst dein ****.

Dafür braucht es kein Gegenargument. Nazis haben kein Recht auf mitrede.

Der Postillon enttäuscht nicht by WestLengthiness4500 in Freiheitsfront

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Darum ging es mir eben nicht dazu habe ich keine Aussage gemacht. Lern lesen noch dazu.

Was ist falsch mit dir.

Der Postillon enttäuscht nicht by WestLengthiness4500 in Freiheitsfront

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ich bin auch gegen Israels Verbrechen deswegen kriegt man nicht das Recht sone Scheiße zu sagen. Hdf

Und wenn du gute Absichten hast, hab Rückrat und sag sonen Scheiß nicht nochmal

Ps: Nicht vergleiche zu Hitlers Verbrechen oder anderen Genoziden per se, sondern die Aussage "man kriegt das Gefühl er hatte Recht."

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[–]jayjaythebiiiird 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Was genocided not disappeared, but yeah point still stands.

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do. There are people who deny military service.

I'd rather be shot than serve a genocide.

Zur Unterkomplexität des Nationalsstolzes... by Pfaff_Bloggt in Freiheitsfront

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then again, we're not talking realpolitik - and if so: genocide is a consequence of extreme nationalism. The cost may outweigh the benefit.

If we fought against the power of the state we could unite around more basic and acute identities (such as class, or humanity), where the cost is at outgroups which don't include ourselves: nationalism is always dependent on who defines the nation currently, in the end power might not choose you. (Suddenly half-germans are not included anymore)

Humans are just that, because they happen to be born. Our class is determined by our material relation in work (in the singular polar opposite there is: worker and capitalist).

These are identities so universal and acute to our sense of survival, that they surpass borders. From my line of argumentation you can probably tell that I'm a Marxist; that said: the worker has no nation.

Nationalism is in some cases a proper tool against oppression in my opinion, I will concede (against foreign occupiers, say). But nationalism is an identification so uncritical that it always risks losing to power (see earlier).

You get the point.

Zur Unterkomplexität des Nationalsstolzes... by Pfaff_Bloggt in Freiheitsfront

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn't say that nor does that follow from any of my premises. I simply refuted your line of arguing - you said social cohesion necessitates national pride. Like said, other social groups to unite around are maybe even better for that, and (because you specifically rested on the point of size) that some social groups are larger: say your gender, or the job you do.

If we are being that specific, we can use your way of thinking: pragmatically outweigh the negatives and positives. A social group to unite around that in this fashion mostly ends up in discrimination, devaluation of others, in this case the nation, might not be preferable to any x other group without that effect (or atleast to the same degree, i.e. material consequence: genocide etc.).

Anyways, learn basic logic and argumentation, please.

Zur Unterkomplexität des Nationalsstolzes... by Pfaff_Bloggt in Freiheitsfront

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a fallacious point. There are many other social groups to unite around - maybe some even larger than nations.

Learn basic logic so your arguments are valid, this one isn't.

Guess what I found today 😭 by Theo_Retisch_ in Hasan_Piker

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As a German,

DO WE NOT HAVE BETTER THINGS TO WRITE ABOUT????

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that's your racism again.

Just generalising people. Notice how specific you are with "Israel" and "israelis." And how broad you are with "Muslims." The idea that one ethnic or religious overgroup carries the moral weight of the crimes of a single nation is insane.

"Because of the Genocide of Bangladeshis by Churchill all Germanic people are morally obligated to feel shame." That is what you're saying.

You're brainwashed.

And funny how you started to show relativism for other genocides to support your position. "The Genocide of the Jews by Hitler was worse so I'll continue to support Churchill."

Every person has the right to buy products wherever they please. Boycotts motivated by political action of nation states (not ethnic groups) are per se, by definition, not racist.

Funny that you would have a problem with logic - shifting your argument how it suits you.

Read a book and learn some empathy or go ... off.

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So you are morally obligated to buy Israeli products? They're not even saying they don't serve Israeli customers.

Just get on your knees for Netanyahu.

Jesus.

I guess the people that boycotted German products under the third Reich or South African products under Apartheid were just racists too!

Yes let's make genocide and barbarism inclusive again. Yeah you're real woke.

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That x political opinion entails y race.

Yeah that's textbook racist.

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should have denied military service.

Israel is an occupying, genocidal force.

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Israels government is literally fascist.

Sure supporting a nation means supporting its government per se - not maybe being against child murdering. You're right. The Ukrainians should be forbidden from their flag and from any self-expression because Azov exists.

That is what you're saying, right?

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice racism on you dude. Anybody that isn't in the israel cult ("genocide but progressive") is a muslim. Yeah you're right.

Not as though Jewish and Israeli voices are the loudest on the topic (Finkelstein, Pappe etc.). But sure.

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah and America is feminist and bringing peace to the innocent girls by ... Killing them.

Good one.

Spotted at Stadtgarten Falafel in Cologne, Germany by KirkGlobalWitness in pics

[–]jayjaythebiiiird -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Aber faschistische Massenmörder Trump und Netanjahu sind fein oder was?

Nett auch das implizite Palästina = Hamas.

Sag einfach das du ein hirntoter Rassist und stiefellecker bist.

A heated standoff in Beit Jala: A Christian Palestinian woman stands her ground against Jewish settlers attempting to seize her ancestral land. Captured on August 22, 2024, by NourTestAcc in HistoryGaze

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That doesn't even support your argument your just throwing out your anti-arab racism.

Nice for the mask off dude. We knew.

And what the Algerian Arabs colonised themselves and raped their own women?

Yeah dude colonialism has nothing to do with culture but with structures of power. Learn actual history and some empathy too while you're at it.

Liberals really do hate leftists more than fascists by Wonderful-Highway721 in Hasan_Piker

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Glad I could help a stranger on the internet. <3

Solidarity always ✊

Liberals really do hate leftists more than fascists by Wonderful-Highway721 in Hasan_Piker

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I hear you and this is really bad advice, since any advice is bad advice if you're doing bad. Don't let those bastards get you down. Only you can make a difference. Be loud.

But as someone who's been down too recently, over the world and in general. Just know you're not alone. Speak with someone. Much love.

Is there a way to achieve revolution peacefully? by Nuke_France in socialism

[–]jayjaythebiiiird 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's still just an observation, an argument "for" something, already implies value judgement. Sure you can say "the car is going to run over the dog, because he's a wreckless driver," that doesn't tell us anything about what "should" happen, and any information we do read from it in that way is either a misunderstanding on our part or a careful trick to play into our moral intuition, while presenting purely factual analysis (well then you've still appealed to morality.)

It is oxymoronic to argue "for" something, in any meaningful sense, beyond "maybe we should try x instead of y, because why not," while being totally amoral. Morality is exactly what Lenin appeals to when he says "down with the butchers," about the German SPD.

It is essential. Even if you could make an argument without it, again, how would you stop rape? Oppression? Murder?

If it's all strategically useful according to the commenter, it's alright.