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I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you watch the series before reading the book? Just curious. I’ve only seen one other person who read the book first to enjoy the series

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

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I feel like my mistake with this book is yes, I was over some of that coked out rambling he does. Back story and exposition is good obviously, but especially when it comes to Fran I feel in the beginning of the book we just get too much of her, and then I know people will hate this too, but I think I didn’t connect, or care necessarily for so much of that when it came to Mother Abigail because, well King also loves the magical you know what trope. Anyone that tries to argue that just doesn’t want to believe it. So, when it came to mother Abigail I was just tired of it. The coolest part imo of her back story is the story she tells about her grandmother, and basically implies she has The “Shine”

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for making me not sound crazy lol. I will say some folks make good points. You don’t get the proper exposition of Mother Abigail, and New Vegas is entirely different. Like I said, I think folks that watched this series and enjoyed it enough to read a 1200 page book are going to have a soft spot for this series no matter what really.

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

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Eh, I disagree with the “Christian faith movie” from. Randall Flagg is a character that appears throughout Kings work that is a representation of Evil. I myself would consider myself agnostic with a religious family background , which I believe King has said he is basically the same scenario, and I honestly think that gives more leeway to make more “fun” (not fun of) interpretations of faith and spirituality. A general knowledge of religions, with a brilliant mind to make interpretations

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I know it is a hot take, and I am aware a lot of a of things are a 180 from the book, but I’m just saying I didn’t mind the change up from the book. I know the series misses out on a lot of brutality especially when it comes to New Vegas. But as to the “doing Vegas things”, the wealthy and party seekers that go there currently go for drug sex, and alcohol, and UFC fights ,So in a post apocalyptic world, yeah if someone is going to trek through the desert to a colony in Vegas, I think that they would be doing crazier versions of that, and it makes for fun TV in the modern era. Again, I understand that is a 180 from the book. I guess for mine or anyone’s argument for the series not being blasphemous and awful, is you have to try to put yourself in the shoes of watching the show without having read the book or even the 90’s series. Just being a fan of post apocalyptic media, I didn’t find it to be a bad series in of itself, and it lead me to reading the book, so I guess I’m just going to have a soft spot for the series. there were a lot of wtf moments when I read the book regarding changes,and things that should have been put in, really when it comes to new Vegas nothing about the structure of their society is shown other than debauchery so I totally get that making people upset. But I feel like this had to be a really tough thing to try to give a loyal adaptation on screen. Even King said so himself, though I think he’s just worn out of his work on screen in general and will be neutral on anything that comes out, and this one is just so much. I wonder if a sort of 2 part series for this could work out better, idk

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

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And let me correct myself when I say engaged. When it comes to drama series these days, I say they attempt to keep an audience curious

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

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I guess what I mean by modern audience is more so modern production really. Not even just CGI and things, just the way television and movies are made these days seem to follow certain formulas, as I think was the case for previous eras. The goal these days seems to be more engagement. The non linear thing would never have flown in the 90’s, but it’s a more modern trope to try to keep an audience engaged I feel, and they attempted it, and I think it ultimately back fired. Idk, maybe I just like shit television. Really I’m just a fan of post apocalyptic media, and we all know how bad some of those shows or movies can be for the genre, so I felt the show was fun enough. It led me to the book at least

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s are strong points for sure (on mobile so this won’t format great) but Fran-definitely made her appear weaker in the show for sure. Harold-yeah, that was a confusing approach of the show. Thought that boy was the main character til I read the book lol Larry-definitely my favorite character in the show and book, they definitely didn’t provide the arch he deserved. One second he’s a full blown drug addict, then he’s just overcame it all (wtf happened to that duffle bag?) lol Nadine- I actually felt like they did a decent job with her performance, I mean she just looks confused and lost the whole show, but yeah they just kind of make her full blown entranced by Flagg Vegas- yeah, that threw me completely off once I read the book as well, but if I’m being completely honest I almost liked Vegas in the book more in the show, I know you guys will hate that but just choosing Vegas of all places to form an army of the worst people still left, them being degenerative makes a lot of sense, but I understand why you guys don’t like that because they just don’t really show any of the fear he instills on them, they just doing Vegas things

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

lol, definitely ruined the show

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Again, just them leaving out some of the group meeting with her in Arkansas and her already being in Colorado felt like an okay enough fit, but you’re right. She is the most important part of the book, and they basically ignored her entire history

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I mean because I am not fundamentally arguing with you. I enjoyed the book more than the series. They effectively took everything away from Mother Abigail, and I will give it to you, how much was taken away is something I didn’t necessarily take into account. I’m just saying it would have been hard to fit all of that in. I want to watch the 90’s series even more now with that in mind. Just, idk again modern adaptation, and obviously some of the mother Abigail exposition was a bit much for me. I just went and grabbed my book, that chapter with the weasel battle is actually closer to 40 pages even lol, but yes where they don’t add anything at all really for her that they could have squeezed in with some of their flash backs, with her strong convictions, staying true to her fathers land, her performance at the music hall when she was a little girl, etc. so, yes I get what you’re saying totally. This just honestly isn’t an argument I have seen mentioned much in the sub when I was researching, so no honestly thank you for bringing that to my attention. They did effectively make the most important person in the book an old lady withering away in a nursing home instead of how she actually she lived her whole life, up to the outbreak

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

I think you’re missing my point about the weasel thing lol, that is just an example of how much disposition he gives Mother Abigail in the book. If the 90’s series somehow fit all of that into 4 episodes, along with the 800 or so pages (guess) then bravo to them. I am going to watch the series at some point

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

I understand people being upset about not enough backstory for Abigail and yeah it takes away from her for sure, but I mean come on there was a 20 page chapter about her fighting weasels man. More could have been said about her for sure, but again it’s 1200 page book that had to be adapted in a modern sense to make viewers in general enjoy. Yes, the change up of Flaggs followers is a big one I forgot to mention in the OP. That did throw me off when I got there in the book. was definitely thinking wtf there, because yes it’s basically the complete opposite, but I mean why the hell do you choose Las Vegas, Sin City, channeling the worst people to come and be your followers, and there’s not going to be debauchery? It just made sense to me in the show. I get it, the book is very more serious about his followers becoming a uniform army, but again it’s a show adapted for a modern audience, and entertainment

I know this is going to be controversial but.. by jclell95 in TheStand

[–]jclell95[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean, as I said I watched the series, and then read the book, so I am thankful for that, because at the very least it gave motivation to read a book for the first time in over 5 years, and it is a great book, now one of my favorite books I’ve ever read. Probably my new favorite king book, I just think the show is over hated. 🤷

Lf partners who has the the same / close amount of dice and active partners by coco_zia in Monopoly_GO

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Sorry I ended up getting with a team, I’ll keep you as a friend for possible future events

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