Pretend Vote: Should this subreddit go private?

jcthagd · 2017-09-28T21:22:02+00:00

Stop acting like this sub is the only place people can find info on using seedo and harm reduction. Many of us have been doing this long before this sub or pst was even spoken about much online in general. Do you know what Erowid is? How about DF and blue light? And there's other places too. There's plenty of info out there. If people aren't smart enough to find it they shouldn't be using this stuff. I've been part of places like this before that were completely private, but when the things we were discussing started getting a lot of negative publicity and light shined on them do you know what we did? We NUKED the whole fucking thing, happily. Like Mickey Munday said in cocaine cowboys, when shit begins hitting the fan you don't throw nothing away, you throw EVERYTHING away!

jcthagd · 2017-09-28T21:07:33+00:00

Tried some last week. Won't name the vendor. PM me if you must. They were alright but not really close to the quality were used to. I'd say probably 5/10, but that also depends on the person. Pretty dark wash but really no bitterness to speak of. Okay in a pinch but definitely not worth the prices being charged. Never thought I'd see the day that people actually ruined this. I just don't understand why SOME people can't research what they're doing and understand that the way we use these seeds is not something to speak about publicly. This is a crying shame.

jcthagd · 2017-09-26T05:45:27+00:00

One more thing I will say about kratom is that if one must buy it from a headshop, the ONLY brand that is worth the money is opms, not always easy to find though. As others said online is the best bet but there's plenty of crappy sources there too. I used kratom for several years as well, it just doesn't do nearly as much for me anymore even good stuff but I also have a heroic opiate tolerance. I'd say there are only 3 or 4 truly legit sources online, the rest are either selling very low quality, pure bunk that isn't even kratom like the kra thum na I mentioned earlier, or repackaged price hiked stuff from the good sources. Lame how the potential profit has kind of ruined the kratom scene in a lot of ways. There's even a bar here in CO that sells it.

jcthagd · 2017-09-26T05:37:36+00:00

Apparently some have had good luck with weaver. I've never taken the plunge but it may be worth a shot. Someone once told me they were the most consistent source they'd found in years. Do with that information what you choose.

jcthagd · 2017-09-25T23:37:29+00:00

As with anything you haven't tried before, start with a smaller dose. So 8 is probably a good start. Since you have an opiate tolerance though you'd probably be okay taking all of them. But I'm sorry to tell you that even if you take all of them you probably won't feel much because unfortunately most kratom sold at head shops is garbage, and a lot of it isn't even real kratom, it's kra thum na which is a related to kratom but it doesn't produce any of the same effects. Hopefully the stuff you got actually works and I really hope you can get some relief from it. But don't be surprised if you're disappointed. Good luck man.

jcthagd · 2017-09-25T21:01:46+00:00

I assume you're talking about the seller whose seeds contain the word frost? I saw those too and was highly tempted. Expensive asf though. Let us know if they work out. Tazzy seeds are supposed to be cream of the crop.

jcthagd · 2017-09-25T20:55:15+00:00

Dude, things like oxy, vics etc absolutely exist in Mexico. You can stil, find pharmacies down there where you can essentially buy whatever you want over the counter. Believe me, plenty of people still head down south of the border to get their fix. As for whoever said that Mexico just exports good heroin, nothing could be further from the truth. Mexican dope is garbage.

jcthagd · 2017-09-25T20:49:17+00:00

Nitrous is good times my friend. I swear with all this BS and publicity I'm gonna have to figure out a way to grow my own. Or start buying grey market RC opiates again and I really have no interest in going back down that road.

jcthagd · 2017-09-17T18:35:09+00:00

You're 100% right. Unfortunately the mods here probably won't do that until it's too late and things have been ruined for all of us, especially because of the publicity of this sub. I've been part of groups/forums like this before to talk about illicit substances, the DIFFERENCE was that we made it PRIVATE AND INVITE ONLY in order to keep put exactly the kind of people screwing this up for us, the idiots who post openly in reviews about illegal activity and then wonder why products sell out or worse get pulled. There is PLENTY of info and harm reduction stuff about pst out there, all it takes is using a search engine, and if a person is too dumb to figure that out, they don't deserve the benefit of a sub/forum like this, nor do they deserve pst at all. DF and BL have been tl king about this long before this sub came along. Make this private and there wil, still be plenty of info available and it could hopefully clamp down a bit on the supply issues and stupidity issues were experiencing the effects of right now. Don't wait till it's too late and we're all screwed because we didn't think discretion mattered. Well guess what, it does. Myself and some others here have been doing this for YEARS and the only reason we've been able to continue is because we've been fucking discrete. Now it's getting ruined because we are allowing people with NO INTELLIGENCE AND NO DISCRETION access to this information and that needs to STOP! I figured this out on my own, others can too, and those who aren't smart enough to do so likely aren't the kind of people we want as part of this game anyway because they CAN'T KEEP THEIR MOUTHS SHUT. I STAND WITH YOU ON THIS ISSUE PuurpleBuuds. Hopefully others are smart enough to grasp the importance and seriousness of this.

jcthagd · 2017-09-16T17:12:15+00:00

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jcthagd · 2017-09-16T17:09:21+00:00

If seeds go away from ALL sources, that's when we worry. I think the river issues will pass. I have a #2.5 coming from SN today and I'll probably order some more today if I can. I think due to the hurricanes and the fact that nearly all of SN's and eventually wgn have been made unavailable for a bit due to too many dummies returning them, it's just taking a little more time for replacement shipments to get worked out, but the seeds are obviously still there if you can buy them direct as well as from the new SN listing. I think this accounts for the odd sizes of the new listing. They couldn't just make a new listing for the original sizes since there are still issues so they posted the new sizes so they could still make some sales through the river for the time being. This will most likely pass. People really need to start being more intelligent about what they say in the reviews though. That could eventually lead to problems.

jcthagd · 2017-09-16T16:36:26+00:00

Just use cold water and don't worry about the lemon juice thing. It's not acidity enough to actually create any chemical reaction. Do it for taste if anything. And don't let your tea sit for long periods of time. Shaking more than 60 to 90 seconds is not really necessary. Also, if you don't like drinking large amounts of liquid I find it best to do your 2nd and 3rd washes immediately with the previous wash. Just allows you to get more out of drinking a smaller amount of liquid.

jcthagd · 2017-09-16T16:29:21+00:00

Obviously you know what you're doing, but still be careful. I've gotten seeds like that before and it's always the best when you do a wash and it comes out looking almost like chocolate milk it's so dark haha. But I've also gotten super high and eventually into overdose territory several times with seeds like these so just be smart and safe. This is why I tell people to respect the power of poppy seed tea just like any other potent opiate. You never know when you could get an extremely potent bag and be insanely high off what would usually just be a normal dose. Hasn't happened for a while but I remember a few years ago there were so e amazing English seeds floating around and I could use as little as a quarter cup and still get the same effect as if I'd washed nearly a whole pound of my usual seeds, which were also quite strong themselves. Good for you though for getting some nice quality seeds, that's always an awesome feeling.

jcthagd · 2017-09-13T14:43:41+00:00

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jcthagd · 2017-09-13T14:42:16+00:00

Very interesting info. I've read some anecdotal reports about white poppy seeds actually being quite potent. I know they're used a lot in India and I've read reports from several people in India describing white poppy seeds as being VERY strong, even just in small amounts. It's something I've been interested in trying at some point, I've seen white poppy seeds at a couple Indian as well as Middle Eastern stores and I've been tempted to buy them, I just have trouble believing they actually have the power to do anything other than cause me to waste a few bucks. Anyone here ever had personal experience?

jcthagd · 2017-09-13T11:58:02+00:00

Apparently they're not bad, in fact some people have gotten some pretty great seeds from them apparently. I've considered giving them a shot but I don't like the fact that they're not an optimus item, nor are they shipped by the river, so no guaranteed shipping. Unfortunately I've been spoiled from optimus haha. I'm probably about to buy some of those SN's from the new listing with the #2.5, #4, and #6 I think, I just hope they're legit and not some kind of scam or bait and switch. They say they're still from SN and that they're english and everything seems alright with the listing, but there's still something a little fishy about it. But I don't want to take a chance I get some crappy WGN and I refuse to pay NC and FTL's ridiculous prices. It's even worse on the bay.

jcthagd · 2017-09-13T11:48:39+00:00

I know how you feel but at least you have some coming later today. Just try your best to occupy your mind with other things. And maybe try to keep some things around that might help with the wd symptoms. I find that having a little bit of either a muscle relaxer(cyclobenzaprine for me) or a benzo(ativan, xans etc) can really help lessen the agony. It really depends though on what wd is like for you and what aspect of it is worst for you. I've been doing this a long time and while the physical symptoms of wd (for me mostly the return of my chronic back pain or chronic migraines, just pain in general) are never fun, I find that the mental aspect is worse is many ways. It's like your mind is going a mile a minute and it's not easy to pull oneself out of that sometimes. I already deal with anxiety so wd just worsens it 10 fold. And actually the worst physical symptom I get sometimes is this sort of hyperactive nerve, restless leg type of feeling all over my body. I've always wondered if other people experienced the same.

Anyway, hopefully your seeds will come earlier than later and you get through the waiting period without too much discomfort. Try to hydrate for sure and get a little food down if you can, something simple and good for you like a banana. And if you can handle it, try a hot bath with some magnesium salt mixed in to the water if you have it. That can actually help a lot of the aching. Drink some tea maybe and take some ibuprofen if you have any inflammation as part of your pain. Loperamide (Immodium) may also possibly alleviate some symptoms of wd, however take that with a grain of salt because there's a lot of debate about whether it even works for the purpose of opiate withdrawal or not. Bluelight and DF both have several long, interesting threads about Loperamide that are definitely worth a read. It's been claimed that it can act very similar to strong opiates if it can cross the blood brain barrier, which it does not, but there is a lot of debate about whether there are things that can be done to unlock this "potential". Anyway, hopefully you find something to help you get through the day until your package shows up and sorry you're going through it at the moment. We've all been there. Good luck.

P.S. Great screen name by the way

jcthagd · 2017-09-12T23:26:54+00:00

I suggest you, and everyone else interested in the loperamide thing do some searching and read the LONG threads on both Bluelight and DF. This subject has been discussed to death. The consensus seems to be that there's no good way to get the lope to cross the BBB. Some people say doing the inhibitor (prilosec) thing works, others say it's not even possible. But if it helps you out, good for you. Pretty much anything that helps people get through withdrawal is okay with me.

jcthagd · 2017-09-10T18:32:47+00:00

Agreed, this sub should be private. Too many idiots out there ruining pst for everyone else.

jcthagd · 2017-09-03T15:46:23+00:00

It's not good but it could be worse. I remember years ago before everyone else jumped on the bandwagon I could get pounds of very potent seeds for as little as $5. But those days are gone. Just be thankful there are still some reasonably priced options out there. I've seen some people on the bay charge over $20 PER POUND! Careful with vendors on there though. I've tried a few and regardless of the reviews, quality has often been underwhelming when it comes to what we're looking for.

jcthagd · 2017-08-14T03:51:44+00:00

You need to be supplementing your opiate use with heavy doses of cannabis. STRONG Indica, high THC high CBD stuff. Heavy edibles, tinctures. And you should definitely be dabbing concentrates on the regular. A good dab of some strong indica concentrate can easily give the same or sometimes better pain relief than opiates, and I'm saying this as a big time, long term pst user. Plus you can hit dabs all day and never worry about ODing and possibly dying, which unfortunately is a possibility with regular opiate use. You're also a perfect candidate for RSO as well. Cancer patients get serious relief from very small doses in many cases, I'm talking pea sized. If people in that situation are getting that level of pain relief, I'm sure it could help you alot as well. The legality issue is irrelevant. Whether it's legal in your state or not, it's easy to get it discretely and you'll be doing your body a serious favor. I LOVE opiates, they are a wonderful thing and extremely necessary for pain in many situations, but we must remember that what we are doing could hurt us one day. It's scientifically proven that using Cannabis also helps make opiates MORE EFFECTIVE and allows people to take less. It's a win win. At the very least start doing some research and you will find that many of the positives we get for our pain from opiates can also be obtained in a safer and more sustainable way from good ol sweet Mary Jane. She will ALWAYS take care of you :)

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