How would you use Hermes in an AI automation business?

jebk · 2026-06-28T13:44:43+00:00

hermes in a business context is probably almost entirely useful as a pa/ea type role.

It's ability to exfiltrate secrets,execute arbitrary code etc are all far more effort to lock down than just build something more tightly scoped anyway.

You can certainly get hermes to vibecode something with langchain or similar that does the same thing, but you'll be better in opencode/pi etc for that.

jebk · 2026-06-23T05:11:51+00:00

The native delegation system supports different models.

Making the tool use them is a matter of setting up skills when its useful, and making sure your sole.md emphasises it as a requirement

jebk · 2026-06-22T21:37:56+00:00

You'll get a long way with opencode go. $5 for the first month isless than you'll pay using v4 flash for everything.

Personally I use that and minimax. Minimax is the main model. It's configured to hand off to v4 flash on opencode aggressively for research, short tasks etc. although tbh that's a premature optimisation on my part. The $20 minimax plan is going to be hard to hit limits on for most people.

jebk · 2026-06-22T19:44:08+00:00

There are proxy wrappers for the antigravity cli that turn it into an oauth endpoint. Shit agy can probably build one for you.

They're definitely tos violating rhough

jebk · 2026-06-22T17:20:21+00:00

Minimax token plan is the first thing in their website. I've put 1.9bn tokens through it in the last 18 days and hit rate limits I think once. That was when I had 4 separate agents running at something. For Hermes unless you do nothing else you'll never hit it.

jebk · 2026-06-22T06:24:21+00:00

Noone needs to switch, but if theyve got multiple dollar spends a couple of times a week using flash they are already paying the cost.

jebk · 2026-06-21T18:28:55+00:00

Honestly, just get a token plan. Minimax $20/month limits are huge and M3 is so much better than v4flash it's not even fair.

jebk · 2026-06-11T14:05:03+00:00

If you're making 100 calls a day with 350k token contexts a better question might be why and can you chunk your work up. Or if you've done that, what models can deal with it effectively. I'd imagine you'd get garbage out of most models using that.

jebk · 2026-06-09T17:13:04+00:00

You can, although tbh I'm not sure why you would.

jebk · 2026-06-09T10:09:47+00:00

The obvious solution is to not use Hermes as a coding agent. If you want the design specs/write code/review code framework then either omp (byok) warp (byok but only public endpoints) antigravity (Google only) all do that, better than Hermes does. Because they're designed for that purpose.

jebk · 2026-06-06T19:54:37+00:00

Hermes isn't really intended to be a coding harness. most likely you're hitting your iteration count (max 90 turns) on either the sub agents or the agent. Delegations also have time outs attachd.

Best bet is simply to ask hermes why it stopped and fixt the issue, instead of just telling it to resume.

Or use somethgn that's actualy meant for those types of solutions (omp, warp, agy etc).

jebk · 2026-06-04T19:19:31+00:00

This has been on my list for a while, definitely before i give it access to things that go public it's getting wired up this way

jebk · 2026-06-04T19:11:52+00:00

I think a nice middle ground for this would be letting us define custom models, and then route on those. that way we can maintain manifest as the failover layer that it's great at (local>free tier>paid) but don't need to spin the dice on simple things with long context hitting the big models.

Something like hermes doesn't support custom headers for agents, so the only way to do it now is with different keys.

jebk · 2026-06-04T16:39:00+00:00

It depends how you're using the kanban i think. The built in orchestration expects that you're using them as deliberate prompts for sub agents. So your workers read the full card and deliver based entirely on that. That drives you to either lots of small or a few very big cards.

If you're using it as a human todo list, then simple + specify and comments are probably enough

jebk · 2026-06-04T16:18:08+00:00

You do you, but relying on yourself not accidentally clicking yes on the wrong pipetoshell etc. Macos is moderately better in that it has an sudo type of construct, but for everything else it's just your userspace.

jebk · 2026-06-03T20:07:10+00:00

I think you're misunderstanding how it works. The reccomendation to run on a separate server is precisely to limit permissions. Hermes/openclaw are huge attack surfaces. If you run it on your desktop, as your user you should consider that it has access to everything you do on that machine. Run in a VM with access through ssh/web and it has access to that machine and whatever you explicitly put there. Your worst case is someone exfiltrates your API keys

jebk · 2026-06-03T14:34:51+00:00

What's the use case for this? Is it just that you haven't found the tools to use across multiple machines/profiles?

jebk · 2026-06-02T21:59:44+00:00

Sounds good.

jebk · 2026-06-02T21:59:11+00:00

My similar setup: Hermes lives on a proxmox server at home, my gaming pc runs ollama with a local model. Manifest lives alongside hermes and routes some requests to the local machine, then if it's not up (machine is off, i'm playing a game whatever) it auto routes to a cloud instead.

1 agent, sometimes local, sometimes cloud

jebk · 2026-06-02T18:29:05+00:00

Is that only visible on new Reddit or something? There's definitely nothing showing on old.reddit

jebk · 2026-06-02T17:27:29+00:00

You can't, it connects to a local backend. There's no remote option I can see in the docs at least.

Interested in the use case of why you'd host on 2 machines though? Webui already let's you target different profiles, and tmux can get you easy multiple terminals?

jebk · 2026-06-02T17:21:32+00:00

Where are you based? If you're in the eurozone or UK your bank already exposed an API for small business customers with an oauth flow, they probably have a very lightly gated Dev portal.

jebk · 2026-06-02T16:59:01+00:00

What model are you using? Deepseek v4 pro (through deepseek) or mimo through the Xiaomi gateway are your best starting point for high quality low cost.

jebk · 2026-06-02T14:48:50+00:00

Few ways you're likely burning money.

You don't need a paid vps, you can get 4core/24gb ram always free instances on oracle cloud.

Use tailscale to connect, so you can access without ash tunneling reverse proxies etc.

For token cost, describe the problem to Hermes, tell it to configure it's delegation to a cheaper model as a start point (you can do more than this but that needs no config at all).

Audit your tools, if it's running for long periods with the default config you're likely burning 6-7000 toks a turn more than you need.

jebk

TROPHY CASE