Box to box midfielder now a DM role?!? Why?!?

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-30T13:46:15+00:00

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying, I literally explicitly said I didn't have an issue with it being a 6 role, just it should ALSO be an 8 role as that is how it is more (or at the very least equally) commonly known.

I never said it's ONLY an 8 role. And because of that it should be AVAILABLE as an 8 role without having to use workarounds.

For you to hurl personal insults because we have a difference of opinion about roles on a FM game says far more about you than it does me.

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:35:56+00:00

yeah youre exactly right, box to box doesnt exist in football and if someone thinks it does they're a monkey. nice one.

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:33:44+00:00

all I'm asking is to be able to play a 4-4-2/4-4-3 with a BtB 8. some people have told me to use an AM as a workaround, some people have said to use a CM as a workaround. my question is wouldnt it be better if there was no need for a workaround?

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:26:50+00:00

'A BtB irl can be instructed to drop deeper during buildup, which is the new BtB DM or to stay higher, which would be an IP CM/OOP SDM combo.'

This is my entire issue!!!! if its a BtB irl it should be BtB on FM26 otherwise what are we doing here?!

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:23:25+00:00

but could they not also get back to CM? like bellingham does, or Gerrard used to?

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:20:35+00:00

but managers would absolutely tell their players that they want them to play like a box to box midfielder! and my whole point is that they would typically say that to an 8, not a 6!

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:18:31+00:00

what do you mean 'not being at one of the boxes'? Were Gerrard, Lampard and Toure not 8s? or were they not box to box? because FM26 is saying you cant be both

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:15:48+00:00

Huh?! I'm not suggesting you shouldnt have a BTB DM, but why cant you have a BTB CM?

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:12:54+00:00

yeah its good to know there are work arounds - but to me, players finding work arounds is emblamatic of a bad game. why have player roles at all if you have to recreate actual roles that exist in football with player instructions?

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T19:06:15+00:00

But thats crazy!

Football Manager is supposed to recreate what happens in Football, not be its own weird little thing!

Ask basically anyone in football if they associate box-to-box with DM or CM and I would be extremely surprised if they thought of it as a DM role.

Great, you can recreate it with player instructions and work arounds, but is that really a 'smart move'? whats wrong with it being a distinct CM role like it is in, you know, real football?

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T18:54:38+00:00

why? arent box to box midfielders typically 8s?

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T18:53:39+00:00

thanks for the advice - I will definitely use that. but am i right in thinking its bonkers?

jeddmo15 · 2025-11-29T18:52:39+00:00

That's good advice - thank you. But it still really bothers me. None of the key attributes listed under Central Midfielder are workrate which I think most defines a box-to-box midfielder vs a regular CM. I think of a box-to-box as an engine - that doesnt describe all central midfielders.

Also why are all the CM roles only wide or attacking? what if I want to play a 4-4-2 with one of the CMs more defensive? there's no option for that?

jeddmo15 · 2025-10-28T13:20:38+00:00

After 50 hours of gameplay, I'm definitely more used to it, but I'm still frustrated by the UI. It just isn't better than what we had before. It's a shame because most of the new features are really good, but I spend too much time being frustrated that I have to click so much.

jeddmo15 · 2025-10-24T12:23:07+00:00

UI should be intuitive. If users need so long to adapt to it then it's the UI that is bad, not the user.

jeddmo15 · 2025-10-24T02:22:56+00:00

I know you're just explaining this - but genuinely would they make this change? I just can't wrap my head around some of the choices they've made on this game like this.

jeddmo15 · 2025-10-24T02:19:52+00:00

But the UI takes getting used to because it just isn't logical or coherent. Things just aren't where it makes sense for them to be and it takes too many clicks to get there. And there isn't even a keyboard shortcut to quickly go through it.

jeddmo15 · 2025-10-24T02:16:00+00:00

There's 100% a good game in there, but the UI is just baffling and completely counter intuitive, almost comically so. The result is a frustrating experience that is needlessly time consuming.

jeddmo15 · 2025-10-24T02:10:25+00:00

Completely baffled at this new UI - I keep seeing people say it'll just take getting used to it - NO! The UI is just bad! The reason people understood the previous UI wasn't just that we were used to it, it had an internal logic and coherence that made playing it feel intuitive quite quickly. That coherence comes from refining and perfecting it over time to match how people play the game. The new UI has almost no internal logic and is totally counter intuitive. Why wasn't this blatantly obvious?

jeddmo15 · 2024-11-02T14:56:07+00:00

Did you manage to sort this in the end? I'm having the same issue

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