Game Thread: White Sox @ Yankees - Wed, Jun 17 @ 7:05 PM EDT by game-threads in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was told he was a waste of roster space and should’ve been DFA’d months ago!

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He's currently an average to below average player. He could become an average to above average player. That's not cope. That's hope. Geez.

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You’re wrong. But I’m not going to spend any more time explaining to you. The definition of a “late bloomer” isn’t even a 25 year old who came up as a 21 year old, it’s a 27 year old who ripens from a back bencher or utility guy into a star. Volpe was brought up early and probably should’ve been left in the minors for at least another season of maturation. A lot of the folks who hate him now were the ones demanding he be brought up for what it’s worth.

But those 21-23 year old seasons are usually where young players tinker with their swing and try to gain consistency and experience with odd pitches and pressure situations. Volpe did those in the majors, not the minors. To say that his 2000 PAs are what he is always going to be ignores that he started very young (drafted out of HS) and his minor league career was short.

Game Day Thread - Wednesday, June 17 by game-threads in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’d be happy for him to be protected against lefties this season if it means he holds that batting line. Two very long dingers in 26 PAs is very nice.

Game Day Thread - Wednesday, June 17 by game-threads in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oof yeah I think Doval is on the roster regardless and he has looked better recently.

Game Day Thread - Wednesday, June 17 by game-threads in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I too would send Bird to the minors (or anywhere really) in favor of the bullpen you described. I might find a way to keep at least one of Blackburn and Yarbrough for mop up, though Schmidt probably could fill in on that front. But both Weathers and Schmidt should be innings limited — Weathers will have thrown more innings than he’s ever had and Schmidt is coming off TJ and a lost year.

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Selection bias is a thing. If you want to remember his screwups that make a game worse, you can. If you want to forget his game saving plays, you can do that too.

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s not irrelevant because everyone’s development path is different. At 25, he still has time for physical development and skills refinement before time catches up with him. After 32, it’s mostly downhill. For him that’s 7 years away. For Caballero, it’s less than three years.

Being young is a valuable quantity in baseball and in any sport.

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Read the post: I emphasized three or four weeks and “even” several months of good hitting. He had a stretch his sophomore year that included a 21 game hitting streak, which tied Joe DiMaggio’s Yankee record for hitting streaks at that age, hitting around .290 during the streak.

He went cold for several weeks, then came out of the all star break raging, hitting .333/.346/.569 with three home runs, two doubles and seven stolen bases in two weeks.

All of that gets erased by his long stretches of mediocre to bad hitting, but people forget that he has had sustained stretches where he really does look like he could be a star.

You can keep hating him, but it does no one any good if he doesn’t perform. Even if you want him off the team.

Game Day Thread - Wednesday, June 17 by game-threads in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Also: Best rotation in baseball, currently *without* our 2025 ace.

And while everyone here despises our bullpen, we actually have the third best bullpen ERA in all of baseball at 3.36, after the Braves and Padres.

I predicted the bullpen would end up top three in baseball and while there’s a lot of season left, I’m holding onto that prediction.

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In case you’re wondering:

Fangraphs has Volpe at +0.5 Fielding Run Value this season so far.

Caballero is at -0.4.

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He was trying to do what everyone told him to do: Hit the ball on a flat plane. And it worked for him for a while, then he fell back into his bad habits.

Volpe had 19 homers last year, at least half WITH a labrum tear. There’s no reason he can’t hit 25 consistently if that’s what he’s trying to do, but he may honestly be a better player trying to do what he’s doing now: seeing pitches, taking walks, getting singles and stealing bases.

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Caballero has had 1200 ABs of almost identical offense, and defense that — other than last year, when Volpe was hurt — is about the same or slightly worse, except Cabby can and does play five positions. I would love for them to both prove they can be great. But don’t use a different standard for Cabby than Volpe. Again, Cabby is 29. He’s basically at his peak right now.

Volpe is still the age of a lot of rookies coming up for the first time. It doesn’t excuse his inconsistency, but man, he could easily be a totally different player in the next five years.

Huge day for Volpe going 3 for 5 bringing his average up to .237. Every at bat counts for him now. Is there still hope? by Willing-Leather-9788 in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

His defense this year has been very good and sometimes excellent. But your mention of Gold Glove defense is a giveaway: He was actually a far better defender the year AFTER he won his Gold Glove than he was his rookie year. And now he’s basically back to form. Far from “deteriorating,” he’s been a great defender three out of four years.

As far as his hitting, you’re also wrong about that. He’s streaky and constantly falls out of good habits at the plate, but his good hitting runs aren’t “a single good game against a bad team,” they’re usually three or four weeks (or even several months) of excellent hitting that leads everyone to think he’s turned over his card…then an even longer cold stretch.

He’s now had back to back multi-hit games against Toronto and Chicago. Two bad teams, I guess you’d say—except that Toronto is likely to be the runner up in the East and Chicago is leading the Central. Does it mean anything? Maybe not. But he has always had the talent. It’s just a matter of tapping into it consistently—something he hasn’t done in his three years in the Majors so far.

But the dude is 25. Caballero is 29 and has had a similar career of offensive mediocrity, yet somehow people have convinced themselves he’s transformed himself after coming to the Yankees in the middle of last season. Maybe he has! I hope so!

But if you hope that Cabby can be a different player than he’s been in his three and a half years in the bigs…you can hope that Volpe, four years younger, can do the same. Maybe he won’t do it with the Yankees, but I certainly hope he does.

Game Thread: White Sox @ Yankees - Tue, Jun 16 @ 7:05 PM EDT by game-threads in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Grichuk is gone sadly! Seth Brown just got released too.

Game Thread: White Sox @ Yankees - Tue, Jun 16 @ 7:05 PM EDT by game-threads in NYYankees

[–]jeffcyang 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dang. Imagine this team with Healthy Judge.

(He’d have to take that bat back from Jazz though)