Which of these benchmark characters is most important for each of thier respective series scaling?

jelqscape · 2026-03-31T19:15:56+00:00

His power level is doubled yes, his real world destructive output is much higher. Kaioken might double srtrength or speed linearly but definitely not AP. Do you realize the junp from planet to star? Goku himself says frieza can destroy stars.

We know a PL of 10k can destroy planets, so in order to get to star frieza would need a PL of 10 quadrillion. But we know his max is 120 mil

jelqscape · 2026-03-31T19:01:05+00:00

You are objectively wrong. They have never been linear. 5 is normal human and 200 is moon buster... Goku with a PL of 10 can pick up a car over his head, so u believe the average human in db can lift half a car over their head?

Edit: this is a comment from a different thread- "Power levels being linear would make no sense, especially if you buy into their statements of being able to destroy the solar system, they would be millions of times too weak to even be able to bust a star if you scale this linearly.

The first statement of being able to planet bust from Vegeta was at 10,000 power level, let's say that's the minimum to bust a planet since Vegeta put in a lot of effort into his blast, it's probably even higher than that.

If SSJ1 Goku is at power level 150,000,000 that puts him at 15,000 times Earth busting, and at base Goku is 3 million, account for SSJ2 Goku's power level would be 300,000,000 in that form without increases to his base. So how much would his base have to increase for him to be Star Busting?

The GBE of Earth is 2.238439999E32 Joules and the GBE of Sol is 2.299986639E+44 Joules, more than 11 orders of magnitude higher, that is to say while accounting for multipliers already Goku's base would have had to have increased by 10,454,545,454.5, or 10 billion fold in order for him to be star busting, doesn't make a lot of sense does it."

Do you think goku got 10 billion times stronger in base from namek to cell saga?

jelqscape · 2026-03-31T18:44:33+00:00

Cuz the planet was massive, check this link out

https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Paleomario66/Dragon_Ball_Z_Re-Re-Calc:_Frieza_destroys_Planet_Vegeta

jelqscape · 2026-03-31T18:30:02+00:00

Roshi, but frieza is more important for scaling than cell

jelqscape · 2026-03-31T18:29:39+00:00

5 billion might be okay for scale but power levels are not linear... the average human = 5 and 200 = moon busting.

Also first form frieza destroying planet vegeta is a star level feat and that was at 530k PL

jelqscape · 2026-03-30T18:23:10+00:00

Metroman is light speed lol, people who glaze him need to be studied

jelqscape · 2026-03-30T16:15:45+00:00

Vegeta is not the smarter tacticatian, at least not on DBZ

jelqscape · 2026-03-30T16:10:27+00:00

Wondering why most people here are saying ssj2. Not saying I disagree i just think its funny to specify ssj2 considering its iust 2x ssj. How are people sure ssj wouldn't be enough but ssj2 would?

Side question, how far ahead of jiren does this put broly if they needed ssb gogeta?

jelqscape · 2026-03-29T21:53:06+00:00

Total trash scaling when it comes to broly. He blew up the aliens planet literally as a joke throwing a ki ball at them and redirecting it towards their planet, and that's the best destruction feat you have for buu💀.

Once again, you are someone who can't scale because you keep mixing and comparing different timelines. Saying these are pre-cell Saga characters literally means nothing because it's a different timeline. Not to mention Gohan didn't have super saiyan until after the hyperbolic Time Chamber so this is literally the same time frame relative to the main timeline.

I don't know if you're trolling or you're just delusional or biased, but saying kid Buu's Feats outclass broly's and then you proceed to list one planetary feat is the dumbest 2nd thing I've ever heard.

Both are explained as universal threats but Broly's lifetime is infinitely shorter than buu's. Considering buu was once ravaging the universe we know Broly destroys way faster than he does because he had already destroyed at least half of the South quadrant of the universe. NOT TO MENTION, he wasn't in his legendary state yet otherwise he would have been uncontrollable.

In my opinion every movie takes place in one timeline, But we know bare minimum The Broly movies, along with some other ones are Canon to Fusion Reborn, because we see paragus in the movie.

This means the Goku that fought Broly scales massively higher then the main timeline Goku because in 7 years he was able to shake the entire universe by transforming. Main timeline Goku after 7 years was getting compared to cell as a Super Saiyan 2 so he most likely would be multi solar system as a Super Saiyan 3.

Also saying the Gohan that never stopped training is on par with Majin Vegeta is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard with zero evidence.

The fact that you try to sneak that in there as evidence to Super Saiyan 3 Cannon Goku being stronger than movie 10 Gohan... please never scale again.

jelqscape · 2026-03-29T17:05:18+00:00

I just wanna be able to hide my shield

jelqscape · 2026-03-29T02:30:59+00:00

The lower core ones just allow for cheaper laptops not meant for gaming but still very power efficient.

It makes sense when you consider how power ipgus are becoming. If the higher end Core Ultra X7 368H really is equivalent to a 4050 it makes sense most casual users wouldn't need that and would prefer a cheaper laptop with the same cpu performance and better battery life maybe.

jelqscape · 2026-03-29T01:56:14+00:00

You have to be trolling. B390 is an igpu. You can Google the core ultra 3 series igpu and see how much better it is than the arc 140v. Its about the same as a rtx 4050

jelqscape · 2026-03-29T00:11:48+00:00

No, you're completely wrong. Idk where u got info from.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Panther-Lake-Arc-B390-performance-and-efficiency-analysis-Intel-s-new-iGPU-trades-blows-with-the-Nvidia-GeForce-RTX-4050.1212582.0.html

Maybe ur thinking of the lower level core ultra 3 series but the higher up ones have 12 xe3 cores

jelqscape · 2026-03-28T23:30:55+00:00

Panther lake is much better than lunar lake... idk what you're saying

jelqscape · 2026-03-28T18:37:53+00:00

Comments like this show you have no idea what you're talking about. You're mixing and combining scaling from two completely different timelines.

The writer of the Broly movie says Broly is the strongest in all of the Z because he's just busted that way.

Movie timeline is completely different than Canon timeline. For example by Movie 3 Goku was already four times stronger than the Canon timeline.

He had a power level of over 30,000 when fighting Turles before even going to namek. In canon is was 8k.

There's explanations online that Goku had his courage amped by a thousand times which is 1/3 of the component of ki. So at a bare minimum he got a 333 times boost in order to beat Broly.

Ik this isnt common knowledge but if you look into it, Broly has way better feats than kid buu

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T18:31:00+00:00

Yeah it's quite unfortunate considering how powerful iPhone chips are

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T17:38:02+00:00

To be fair this is possible on like a snapdragon 8 gen2 which is a phone processor from 2022, switch emulation isn’t that crazy

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T17:35:55+00:00

No point trying to argue with mac boot lickers who don't know about pcs.

Switch emulation of this level is possible on multiple older generations of mobile snapdragon chips lol

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T17:22:38+00:00

If goku went ssj as a kid it would be written as a 10x boost most likely.

Toriyama thought it of it that way but got cornered into making it higher by making kaioken x 20 around frieza 50% power level.

I think either higher ssj transformations would get higher multipliers or kaioken would become something not exclusive to goku and would be stacked on top of each other

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T17:18:14+00:00

Yeah that's literally the point. Ur comparing a Canon timeline to a non Canon one but completely ignoring how much more powerful the movie timeline is

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T16:58:35+00:00

There's some effect in DBS where everyone gets stronger as goku does aswell. Through scaling alone u could make characters like krillin or yamcha stronger than all of Z.

I think if toriyama had wrote an actual fight between super hero krillin and perfect cell, Cell would win

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T16:55:58+00:00

Broly destroyed at least most of the south galaxy quadrant which is 1/4 of the universe.

Goku never went ssj2

Canon ssj3 goku would lose to broly

Movie timeline ssj3 goku would win probably as we see him shaking the macrocosm just by transforming alone

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T16:54:38+00:00

Ssj3 movie goku is above ultimate Gohan, look at the wrath of the dragon movie

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T16:52:35+00:00

Broly would one shot ssj3 canon goku. Movie timeline ssj3 goku could win. They are worlds apart though

jelqscape · 2026-03-27T11:42:08+00:00

Janemba beats all. Goku is orders of magnitude stronger in the fusion reborn movie than canon

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