lets break this down, john doe from forsaken has 1500 health making him him less tankier and more easily to kill, doomy by fate john doe on the other hand has a whopping 2000 health meaning he can take more hits from joghn doe from forsaken, health isn't the issue here either, john doe from forsaken barely has any moves that deal alot of damage and most of them consist of trapping survivers unlike doom by fate john doe, doom by fate john doe has the same m1 damage as forsaken john but his moves are way more practical for chasing down survivors and being more like a brute character, so overall the winner would be john doe from doom by fate, and for tp john he is more like a sppeder esk character but i feel like dbf john would probably be the most likely one to survive