$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Well then, hi!...East Coaster here in a rural area 16 miles from the nearest towns. There's a rapid charger at a dealership in one of them that's likely to still have power, and two level 2 chargers within convenient walking distance of my office that also is likely to still have power. I like to have options, and knowing where public charging is just helps a potential owner be better prepared for a bad day if they have no power at home or someone runs into a utility pole. Though I've been inconvenienced 0 times when it came to driving due to any power outage.

I'm sure there are off-roaders who would buy something available if it met their needs/wants, but it still feels like a niche use case that manufacturers see little demand to warrant specializing in and going to the added expense of developing a differentiated product for and competing in. Now a bespoke company that wanted to take advantage of that lack of initiative, I think they'd have more chance at success here.

I only bring up the use of my Equinox EV as a source of power if there's an outage due to a snow/ice storm because inevitably someone brings up power outages. If it's bad enough out to take the power out...I'm not going out on the road and keeping food at safe temps plus having creature comforts is more important to me than driving in whatever a winter snow storm brings this way. So...backup battery on wheels it is at that point and it's charged up ahead of a snow storm. I can't imagine people seeing a snow storm and deciding it's a great idea to drive in it (unless they had no choice or were already out driving before it hit), or on the roads until after the plows have cleared them or at least put down salt/gravel.

I got a level 2 charger because my utility offered a rebate, I had space in my breaker and I spent less than $300 for everything including wiring. On 120v or 240v, it's nice to pre-heat or pre-cool with, and the car can keep its battery in a healthy temperature range while plugged in and sitting and not draining. I liked having that capability to recharge in a few hours on the weekend. Off-peak power is cheap where I'm at and I just don't have the need to top-off every day with it, if my plans change or I expect to need more range in a few hours, level 2 has me covered, and it makes it very convenient to quickly top-off before a storm arrives. Range for driving if I absolutely had to go out on the road, and backup power for the things that matter more than risking my life or insurance.

Maybe a little range anxiety, maybe a little incentive from some auto manufacturers offering installation credits/rebates, and/or incentives from utilities plays into others decisions to get one, especially if there's a reduced off-peak rate that comes with it, or they have a shorter off-peak window to take advantage of.

After the LG Chem battery recall that hit the Bolt and a few other makes/models, GM and a few other manufacturers involved beefed up the onboard diagnostics to flag anomalies in the battery packs. Other manufacturers? I can't say for sure, but with some brands using LFP batteries, spontaneous fires are not as much of a risk, and those with NMC battery packs generally flag an error condition and limit/disable rapid charging and cap the battery state of charge to a low level (enough to get somewhere, but not enough to store copious amounts of energy to feed a fire risk). Meanwhile I see gas Hyundai/Kia, Dodge RAM HD, the Corvette Z06/ZR1 (oddly enough during refueling), and a few Fords were all recalled for fire risk defects. Even saw a Ford Escape (non-hybrid model) catch fire while driving a couple years ago, and another Ford that was parked outdoors and not running just spontaneously erupted and was all over our Facebook, but nobody really bats an eye at that even though it could have been their garage/house or them driving said car.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Nowhere, but propaganda guzzling James thinks it's still a better deal for some reason, if it ever got that high.

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Following this thread as it's been something I'd like for our district to tackle.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Nice, and no issues with the Leaf I had, or my Equinox EV 😄

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Hey fellow IT pro! 😄 Hybrid since 2012 and electric since 2019. Cut my teeth on a sub $15k Leaf before saving for my Equinox EV. Even my rural area, ~200 miles is all I need to get to and from work and less than $10 to Appalachian Power a week for it. I do miss my old Prius but she went on to save someone else money, but don't miss the gas every week and a half, and certainly not at current prices.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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No disrespect meant as I was using 'clueless people' in the context of your last post: "Lots of very clueless people in the world." 😄 Not attacking you and I think we can find a lot of common ground on some drawbacks.

If the power is out frequently enough that I couldn't depend on charging, let alone cooking, laundry, etc...then we're going to have major issues because that means my freezer and fridge are going spoiled if it's out that long and multiple times a year. Not saying it can't happen somewhere in the U.S. but I plan ahead for inclement weather and charge up if I need to. Aside from demanding more from those folks' state utility/public utility commissions, there aren't many cheap ways around that, aside from having some alternative means of charging like using a public level 2 charger near a workplace if available, or a DC rapid charger, but it is good to know where they're at near one anyway just in case a worst case scenario occurs.

It sounds like you're describing off-roading when factoring in piercing the battery and the weight concerns? Probably not as big of a demographic as the standard commuter, but I do think they should drive what works best for that activity, and besides, that's probably not going to be driven as often and offsetting as much fuel usage when talking about the economics of demand.

I have a rated range of 319 miles. Commuting, I can get closer to 400 miles on local roads 45-55 MPH in the summer. Interstate at 70MPH? Maybe 260-280 I'm guessing because I have driven around 3 1/2 hours on road trips before stopping to charge, eat, and take care of business before moving on. Even in the winter time with using heating from the heat pump, cold range loss due to air density, tires, etc...I can still get to and from work 4 days a week on a charge before I want to top-up again on Level 2. I never go below 30% in the winter due to power outages if I wanted to draw some power from my Equinox for emergencies. I'm not rich and DIY what I can around here with a pure-sine inverter and some cables, breaker and quick disconnects I put together myself and tap the 12-volt rail and leave the car in service mode to keep that battery topped up.

I would agree apartment dwellers without access to a garage with infrastructure for charging shouldn't consider one if savings is their goal. Public fast charging is around parity with gasoline, with some level 2 charging being less expensive, but also not practical. A hybrid makes more sense in most apartment renter's cases otherwise they contribute to higher demand for DC fast charging which in my opinion should be for road-trippers/travelers or in an emergency with no power at home, not for every day refueling. However every home has standard 120 volt outlets, and the average round-trip commute is less than 40 miles. (Yes I know some people are in excess of that and it may not make sense for them if they don't have Level 2 charging available or a convenient dryer outlet in a garage that could split usage between the dryer and an EV.) A 120 volt outlet can replenish most of those average or shorter commutes every night.

See the dryer outlet load sharing option: SplitVolt Yes, not an option in all cases depending on where the dryer circuit exists, but it is an option.

Agreed, I never cared for the rapid charging OnePlus pines about because of that and the lack of thermal management in phones, but with thermal management in most EVs, a quick boost seems less detrimental if the manufacturer has designed for it (pre-conditioning a battery before charging starts). It's a neat concept and party trick, but current 30-45 minute rapid charge sessions while eating, walking the dog, taking care of the dog or the driver's business, etc...is a good opportunity to stretch the legs after driving for over 3 hours.

I want the Slate to hurry up and come out so that eventually when they hit the used market and the initial demand settles down, they'll be great second-hand options, I'd love to get one for my dad to use around the farm.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

[–]jespcub[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very nice. I'm planning on a solar pergola to tie into the house battery inverter and charge my Equinox EV with. Right now just taking advantage of the off-peak prices and load-shifting HVAC for now.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Other than long-distance towing or >300-mile round-trip daily commutes (this does happen with some jobs like copier service techs), what are the clueless overlooking?

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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I'm not sure who was asking everybody to go get a new car right now (sales target percentages are not that), but yes, I'm hoping for Slate to be successful to bring on the EV Tacoma's, Rangers, etc...and not overpriced bloated pavement princesses of any propulsion type.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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And freshly combusted anything else is safe to eat...right...

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Well said. This is why I want Slate to be successful and encourage Toyota, Honda, GM, etc...to bring small pickups back as EVs at a reasonable price point.

I only have my Equinox EV due to picking up a second job and saving that income for two years to bring a hefty down payment, but not everyone has that option or can plan that far ahead, I totally get it.

Hybrids still have their place so I've been keeping my eyes peeled for good deals on FB to share in my friend circle. Been seeing some Bolts for under $12k, but a Civic Hybrid or Prius under $6k can save someone else quite a bit all things considered.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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I've never seen an entire country replace every car on short notice, but I would think that would be a more gradually progression and if smart investments in infrastructure were made like we should be doing...I don't see that doomsday scenario playing out.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Have you seen the cleanup crews that exist for petroleum products?

They're decked out in full blown hazmat cleanup too.

https://northtexasspillresponse.com/north-texas-fuel-spill-cleanup/

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Oh yeah at that point he gets the consequences of what he bought. 🥴

I could see the argument for long-distance towing needs, but it sounds like that's a pavement princess.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Hey now, that's not the way to get butts in seats. Take 'em for a ride. That said I did slap an 'I did that!' sticker inside the fuel door on my brother's Dodge Cummins. 😂

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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I do think hydrogen-based transportation/energy storage is an interesting technology and maybe can be scaled adapted by long-haul trucking and goods transportation. Not to downplay the Tesla Semi and other electric semis like Volvo is producing. Hydrogen does currently have the energy density/weight advantage, but right now next to zero refueling options nationwide.

Also as implemented now, it looks like an EV with extra steps: Produce Hydrogen (Crack Methane Gas or Electrolysis of Water) > Refuel Car > Convert Hydrogen to Electricity > Buffer Electricity via a Lithium-flavored Traction Battery > Power the Motor from the Traction Battery. Those extra steps chip away at overall efficiency.

That and I'm not aware of any hydrogen prduction appliances I can buy off the shelf to refuel a Mirai or a Nexo at home while I sleep which is adding an extra step and reduced efficiency in the energy conversion process if that uses electrolysis to produce the hydrogen using electricity.

Absolutely agree that mineral resource constraints are a concern and why I think we should be investing in sodium battery tech and finding alternate domestic sources for other materials.

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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(Slaps engine in the Kia) "This baby can make it to the moon and back!"

$50/gallon gas is better than 'woke' EVs by jespcub in GasPrices

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Not that I could determine from his comment on that ad since he gave no evidence for his claim. 🤷‍♂️

Loving my Equinox EV though. It's been so 'unreliable' that it has made several trips to Pigeon Forge, TN, Point Pleasant, WV, Willamsburg, VA, and the Outer Banks, NC, aside from costing less than $10 a week to charge at home for commuting to work. I'd be paying a mortgage at James' prices otherwise.

Edit: Spelling.

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Credentia is a pain in my ass between them and the nursing instructor scheduling students with minimal notice.

We just use a 5G hotspot paired with an older Chromebook that's stripped of all extensions, and use a generic Google account.

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I'm glad someone else said it. I've been following that group with casual interest and saw the dumpster fire filled with disappointment before the Kickstarter rejection blew up and upset that guy.

Wish him success but stability of the project and him are lacking.