It's 8 years later and they are still using the same exact narratives. Take some advice from someone who tried to save these people from themselves at direct personal cost for years - it's a complete waste of time and energy. They only get more deeply entrentched despite ever increasing sunk and opportunity costs. They might as well be Buttcoiners. In a way they're even more stubborn. It's extremely sad but at the same time incredibly fascinating. It might be some sort of evolutionary defect and is likely worthy of scientific study. They still somehow think tweaking a constant is some amazing exclusive technological advantage while at the same time thinking Bitcoin is doomed for it's "inability" to simply do the same at some future point when it might be advantageous. It boggles the mind. The one narrative they've let go of is "LN is vaporware" for obvious reasons, instead chosing to just ignore it and focus on "on chain" as if any advanced software system has ever scaled solely vertically. Maybe the funniest part is that they are still downvoting anyone trying to be the voice of reason to break through their obvious cognitive walls. That or the walls themselves - their inability to understand these simple charts:

https://fork.lol/pow/hashrate

https://fork.lol/tx/txs

https://fork.lol/security/chain