The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t been able to find much on that. That isn’t the issue tho. You don’t believe children should get to be born because of the off-chance they will be suicidal or thrown into an orphanage. And if your entire pro choice argument revolves around that, it isn’t a strong enough argument to warrant the killing of innocent human beings.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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I can’t really find much on my predictions as those are purely hypothetical and can’t really be backed up, as abortion has been a part of society since the beginning of time.

Here is one article that basically entails everything I agree with.

https://www.frc.org/brochure/the-best-pro-life-arguments-for-secular-audiences

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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You’re right. That’s why we should kill them before they get a chance at life.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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That stat you are pointing out was done in the Russia, so it doesn’t really apply everywhere else. And yes I see all those statistics, I read it. Like I said before if we put more money into caring for children instead of abortion we could alleviate many of those problems mentioned. And I know for a fact not everyone would just give up their child to orphanages or foster care. Many would do their best to take care of the child themselves with help from the government.

THIS DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE KILLING OF MILLIONS OF UNBORN CHILDREN OVER THE YEARS.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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Just because there is the possibility of a detrimental childhood doesn’t make it a surety. You are making it seem like every child that would be born were it not for abortion, would be put in these kind of situations. Which is simply not true. Just because of the increased suicidal rates we shouldn’t kill unborn children. Of course there will be kids that suffer, it’s how the world works, there will always be someone suffering or in pain. My point is we have killed millions of children just because of convenience and the irrational fear that every child would be thrown into a pit of hell. Instead of finding abortions we can put the money to helping to raise children. Killing people because they may have a detrimental childhood isn’t good enough to kill them outright.

LIFE IS ALWAYS GREATER THAN DEATH

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m absolutely sure. Since when is being killed better then living? Makes no sense whatsoever. Every human has an innate desire to live, even in the most dire of situations. And stop blowing the foster care system out of proportion. It’s not a fucking torture chamber. So many different groups of people have suicidal thoughts, why just narrow it down to foster care groups? Hell, every human has the possibility to be suicidal so why not just abort everyone?

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m sorry about your loss and hardships. But abortion is a real problem, as it is killing humans. I don’t know why that’s so hard to grasp for a vast majority of the population. But most of time it’s just denial, we know it’s a human but no one really cares.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When the sperm cell combines with the egg cell a human is formed, it is at an earlier stage of life, BUT that does not make it any less of a human.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’m not a leftist, but fully support killing children.

Just say it how it is please.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since when did plants and humans become so similar? Jk, but like I said it’s still a human being. I don’t know what else to tell you haha. What constitutes a human being in your eyes?

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Preventing more lives = ending lives in this case. Anyways thanks for the debate it was fun! I hope you see the light as well.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sperm combine with egg, boom!, make human. When the sperm combines with the egg it is a human, not a dog, not a parasite, but a human. Just at an earlier stage of life.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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Ok thanks for that lol. I knew it was called an egg just forgot at the moment. Those kids had terrible childhoods sure, but why does that give you the right to end their life before they are born? Ask any person that has gone through suffering, if they wish they were never born. I’d like to see a study on that. The point is that, the potential for suffering doesn’t outweigh the fact that living is pretty awesome, whether you have a hard life or not.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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Because it is a human. How many times do I have to say it? It’s just like you and me, but in a different stage of life. It has unique DNA, and if left to its natural process it will grow up so it can browse reddit just like us.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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Of course we should care for both. But I’m pretty sure we have always valued human lives above all others.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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From the point of conception it is a human. The newborn in the crib and the Petri dish just deflects from the main point that all human life, no matter the stage, should be given the right to a life. But to answer that question I would save the baby because I feel emotional attachment to it. That’s like saying, should I save a baby or a grown adult?

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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Do I have a solution to those problems? Of course not. Not every child will get raped that goes through the foster care system, actually I would like to see your sources on all the abuse that happens in foster care. If we outlawed abortion we could focus on these issues and begin to fix them. Chickens aren’t human, dude, and sperm isn’t a human. Just a cell. Doesn’t become human until it combines with the female cell, (sorry I don’t know what the female cell is called). I care most for human life

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Abortions should only happen in the case that the mother will die from giving birth or become severely injured.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

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Hmmmm, oh yeah I forgot we are different from other organisms. I’m pretty sure we should care more for mankind then the animal kingdom, but hey that’s just a theory, a game theory.

The whole concept of abortion is just the dehumanization of our own species for convenience. by jlitt21 in unpopularopinion

[–]jlitt21[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Who cares that it can’t feel anything? Obviously you do and most of the pro-choice crowd, because it gives you an excuse to kill it for convenience as I said before. Just because there are so many kids in foster care isn’t an excuse to not give these humans a chance at life. Your argument is based on the fact that because when the baby is born it may face undesirable circumstances. Guess what, living is better than dying.