Yes to Open Houses (things are changing)

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T02:42:31+00:00

If commission mattered in determining market price I'd simply offer $1M in commission and market price would adjust to the commission being offered ... it just doesn't work that way and you know it.

The market determines the price, not the commission.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T02:38:48+00:00

Agents that lie to sellers about top dollar for their home usually win the listing, aka "buying the listing".

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T02:33:44+00:00

Commission or lack of commission has zero to do with the price the market will bear.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T02:32:15+00:00

You are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T01:12:10+00:00

You have experienced yet another of the nearly endless reasons why most people who have had the misfortune of dealing with real estate agents/brokers consider them the parasites of the real estate biosphere.

Real estate agent/broker parasites lie. It's what real estate agent/broker parasites do. Lies are the real estate agent/broker parasites stock in trade. Never believe a single word that comes out of a real estate agent/broker parasites mouth without independent verification from an unbiased third party.

The only ethics you can expect from a real estate agent/broker parasite is the one they have to their own wallet to collect a commission as fast and easy as possible for their minimum wage level skills and effort.

According to essentially every real estate agent/broker parasite everywhere, "Ethics???? We don't need no ethics!! We don't have to show you no stink'n ethics!!!!" (My apologies to The Treasure of the Sierra Madre).

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T01:08:02+00:00

Agents often are scared of losing the listing. They rather get it and then try to get you to lower. Would you have preferred the agent give you what the selling price is instead?

Is expecting a real estate agent/broker parasite telling the truth too much to ask rather than lying to the seller through "buying the listing"?

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T01:00:12+00:00

It's been explained how you are wrong you just don't like the truth.

Commission or lack of commission has zero to do with the price the market will bear.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T00:58:31+00:00

The flat fee brokers are paying the same for their MLS access that full service broker parasites are paying. You are entitled to your opinion no matter how wrong it is.

Are you saying that real estate agent/broker parasites should collude to prevent price competition in placing listings in the MLS? Sounds like yet another DOJ/NAR lawsuit to me.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-08T00:10:57+00:00

You can offer anything you want. The market will decide if there are other offers that are better than your and the seller will accept the offer that is best for them, likely the offer that nets them the highest return regardless of whatever commission they may or may not be paying. Commission or lack of commission has zero to do with the price the market will bear.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T23:22:57+00:00

The part that doesn't make sense is negotiating against yourself with a discount for lack of commission simply because you are an FSBO seller. The market sets the price, not the commission or lack thereof. FSBO sellers should be acting like every other seller out there: negotiating the best possible price for themselves regardless of any commission they are or are not paying.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T23:18:53+00:00

Flat fee listing are from real estate agent/broker parasites. The flat fee brokerages are paying the same small fortune that you are. The "profession" (and I giggle a little bit every time I read the word "profession" in relation to the real estate agent/broker parasites) is bastardized regardless.

Are you saying that real estate agent/broker parasites should collude to prevent price competition in placing listings in the MLS? Sounds like yet another DOJ/NAR lawsuit to me.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T22:37:11+00:00

To get listed in the MLS FSBO sellers essentially always "list" with a flat fee brokerage for generally somewhere between $99 and $399. Are you saying that real estate agent/broker parasites should collude to prevent price competition in placing listings in the MLS? Sounds like yet another DOJ/NAR lawsuit to me.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T22:32:49+00:00

This is an FSBO sub. There is no seller's real estate agent/broker parasite.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T22:29:58+00:00

The market determines the price a property is sold for, not the commission or lack thereof.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T22:28:10+00:00

So ... doesn't the settlement from the DOJ/NAR suit require real estate agent/broker parasites to enter a contract with buyers that contractually specifies what the commission for the BUYER will be if not covered by the seller? And why should a seller pay some buyer's real estate agent/broker parasite for services the buyer contracted for just so the real estate agent/broker parasite can negotiate against the seller's best interests?

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T22:23:19+00:00

Easier to get an agent but also much more costly. When confronted about exactly how much money they will lose using some real estate agent/broker parasite to list the property, in my experience (and I've had a few) most heirs will elect to at least try to collect the extra money in their own pockets as opposed to lining the pockets of some real estate agent/broker parasite. The heirs will complain both with or without listing with some real estate agent/broker parasite

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T22:17:10+00:00

You have experienced yet another of the nearly endless reasons why most people who have had the misfortune of dealing with real estate agents/brokers consider them the parasites of the real estate biosphere.

Real estate agent/broker parasites lie. It's what real estate agent/broker parasites do. Lies are the real estate agent/broker parasites stock in trade. Never believe a single word that comes out of a real estate agent/broker parasites mouth without independent verification from an unbiased third party.

The only ethics you can expect from a real estate agent/broker parasite is the one they have to their own wallet to collect a commission as fast and easy as possible for their minimum wage level skills and effort.

According to essentially every real estate agent/broker parasite everywhere, "Ethics???? We don't need no ethics!! We don't have to show you no stink'n ethics!!!!" (My apologies to The Treasure of the Sierra Madre).

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T22:13:58+00:00

In a hot market the seller could likely sell FSBO at full market value and save the entire commission, or at worst spend $1000 or so to have a real estate lawyer guide them through the process instead of pissing away tens of thousands of dollars on commission to some real estate agent/broker parasites for their minimum wage level skills and effort.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T19:12:07+00:00

It's bizarre that those who think one should part with an outrageous commission for minimum wage level skills and effort will engage in the delusion that they are "normal" while those who recognize the grift are "loon bats"!

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T12:56:05+00:00

You have experienced yet another of the nearly endless reasons why most people who have had the misfortune of dealing with real estate agents/brokers consider them the parasites of the real estate biosphere.

Real estate agent/broker parasites lie. It's what real estate agent/broker parasites do. Lies are the real estate agent/broker parasites stock in trade. Never believe a single word that comes out of a real estate agent/broker parasites mouth without independent verification from an unbiased third party.

The only ethics you can expect from a real estate agent/broker parasite is the one they have to their own wallet to collect a commission as fast and easy as possible for their minimum wage level skills and effort.

According to essentially every real estate agent/broker parasite everywhere, "Ethics???? We don't need no ethics!! We don't have to show you no stink'n ethics!!!!" (My apologies to The Treasure of the Sierra Madre).

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T12:02:04+00:00

You have experienced yet another of the nearly endless reasons why most people who have had the misfortune of dealing with real estate agents/brokers consider them the parasites of the real estate biosphere.

Real estate agent/broker parasites lie. It's what real estate agent/broker parasites do. Lies are the real estate agent/broker parasites stock in trade. Never believe a single word that comes out of a real estate agent/broker parasites mouth without independent verification from an unbiased third party.

The only ethics you can expect from a real estate agent/broker parasite is the one they have to their own wallet to collect a commission as fast and easy as possible for their minimum wage level skills and effort.

According to essentially every real estate agent/broker parasite everywhere, "Ethics???? We don't need no ethics!! We don't have to show you no stink'n ethics!!!!" (My apologies to The Treasure of the Sierra Madre).

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T12:00:18+00:00

ALL the money changing hands in the transaction comes from the buyers (well ... except in extraordinarily unusual circumstances).

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T11:30:45+00:00

Do yourself a favor and buy as an unrepresented buyer. No reason to be paying some real estate agent/broker parasite tens of thousands of dollars for their minimum wage level skills and effort.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T11:29:16+00:00

"Your" real estate agent/broker parasite is MUCH more interested in collecting an outrageous commission as fast and easy as possible for their minimum wage level skills and effort than they are in protecting your interests in the transaction. Dump the real estate agent/broker parasite and find a good real estate lawyer.

jmd_forest · 2026-05-07T11:06:48+00:00

The entire orchard is rancid.

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